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DamageX 09-21-2009 03:50 PM

The truth about HD porn
 
Having a chat with an industry veteran about polling your members.

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Play a real HD and ask them what they think, add the option. Don't know video is to slow. And 90% will check it.

Ask 90% of the paysite owners what's hot, they say HD.
HD has been so overhyped it ain't even funny.

Loch 09-21-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 16345838)
Having a chat with an industry veteran about polling your members.



HD has been so overhyped it ain't even funny.

They said the same in 2004 when we started, yet its made us a small fortune :)

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 09-21-2009 03:54 PM

it's been said before in other hd debates,and i have to agree with it.

hd is TOO MUCH detail for most porn. you notice a lot of the blemishes, ass zits, stretch marks, yadda yadda, that on normal film you'd totally overlook or not notice at all. Unless theyare shooting a chick who has been makeupped from head to toe, with a great film and lighting crew, they girls can look, well, a little less perfect than most guy's porno fantasy babe. for the most part, when you're jerking off, detail doesn't matter and i doubt muchof anyone actually cares that it is in hd or not, only if the scene turns them on or not. look at the quality of tube videos. choppy low-res videos are doing just fine for millions of masturbators every day...

fris 09-21-2009 03:56 PM

stretch marks, zits, infections up close is not my cup of tea

bronco67 09-21-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 16345866)
it's been said before in other hd debates,and i have to agree with it.

hd is TOO MUCH detail for most porn. you notice a lot of the blemishes, ass zits, stretch marks, yadda yadda, that on normal film you'd totally overlook or not notice at all. Unless theyare shooting a chick who has been makeupped from head to toe, with a great film and lighting crew, they girls can look, well, a little less perfect than most guy's porno fantasy babe. for the most part, when you're jerking off, detail doesn't matter and i doubt muchof anyone actually cares that it is in hd or not, only if the scene turns them on or not. look at the quality of tube videos. choppy low-res videos are doing just fine for millions of masturbators every day...

Exactly.

I'd rather watch a well shot, hot scene with a super fine girl at 320 by 240 -- as opposed to a boring scene in HD.

Detail is not equal to turn on!!!!!

Barefootsies 09-21-2009 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 16345838)
Having a chat with an industry veteran about polling your members.



HD has been so overhyped it ain't even funny.

So fucking true dat u drunk nig. :thumbsup

I have been saying that same shit for 2 years. However, at every fucking conference the same retards are up on panels talking about HD, free porn, and mobile.

:disgust

rokoroko 09-21-2009 04:03 PM

but the future is in HD as all new TVs are actually in HD and the stream will go HD , so there will be no escape from it.HDTV and UltraHD TV than, something like (4000x2000)points

DamageX 09-21-2009 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Loch (Post 16345855)
They said the same in 2004 when we started, yet its made us a small fortune :)

So let's see, you shoot HD content. 90% of the paysite owners think HD porn is the shit. 100% of the paysite owners buy or lease content. You make a small fortune from HD content. Coincidence? :1orglaugh

Machete_ 09-21-2009 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 16345874)
stretch marks, zits, infections up close is not my cup of tea

:2 cents: That is how I see it as well. HD is great for a lot of things, but looking at bad boobjobs aint one of them.

Loch 09-21-2009 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rokoroko (Post 16345907)
but the future is in HD as all new TVs are actually in HD and the stream will go HD , so there will be no escape from it.HDTV and UltraHD TV than, something like (4000x2000)points

:thumbsup

Sent you an email btw!

Barefootsies 09-21-2009 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 16345921)
So let's see, you shoot HD content. 90% of the paysite owners think HD porn is the shit. 100% of the paysite owners buy or lease content. You make a small fortune from HD content. Coincidence? :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

MaDalton 09-21-2009 04:12 PM

dunno, we shot thousands of scenes in HDV and people seem to like it. at least my clients keep on buying - and if they had no members they probably would be broke by now.

and my screen is 1920x1280 - if i watch a 320x240 video it's like trying to decipher a stamp

but i agree that a video with a slutty girl getting fucked hard in 320x240 is hotter than a bored granny in HD

rokoroko 09-21-2009 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Loch (Post 16345927)
:thumbsup

Sent you an email btw!

,

you are Casper?

yes you are, i see your signature,

I get it now

bronco67 09-21-2009 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 16345942)
dunno, we shot thousands of scenes in HDV and people seem to like it. at least my clients keep on buying - and if they had no members they probably would be broke by now.

and my screen is 1920x1280 - if i watch a 320x240 video it's like trying to decipher a stamp

but i agree that a video with a slutty girl getting fucked hard in 320x240 is hotter than a bored granny in HD

Yeah but what's in the scenes? If they like it, you're probably doing something else right.

DamageX 09-21-2009 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 16345978)
Yeah but what's in the scenes? If they like it, you're probably doing something else right.

Agreed, I seriously doubt it that the HD format itself is all that great. I bet ya if you split-tested the HD content vs the same content in regular format you probably wouldn't be able to get any statistical data to point to the HD format making any positive difference.

MaDalton 09-21-2009 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 16345978)
Yeah but what's in the scenes? If they like it, you're probably doing something else right.

lol, yeah, i hope so

of course there's no proof at all if it wouldn't work as well as it does in SD too. but since for our exclusive content it makes no difference in price or workflow i leave it up to our clients to encode it to whatever they think works for them

BradM 09-21-2009 04:25 PM

I said HD is not necessary years ago. People laughed. Oh well. :)

Agent 488 09-21-2009 04:26 PM

surfers look for it. surfers buy it. that's all that matters. the rest. who cares?

DVTimes 09-21-2009 04:27 PM

hd looks great.

but needs to be shot right.

rokoroko 09-21-2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 16345991)
I said HD is not necessary years ago. People laughed. Oh well. :)

but it was not era of HDTV , have you seen something non HD on HDTV ? This is real ugly !
So the future is only HD , or even more UltraHD in 10-20 years.

DamageX 09-21-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 16345991)
I said HD is not necessary years ago. People laughed. Oh well. :)

I betcha anything AlienQ said it before you. :1orglaugh

BlackCrayon 09-21-2009 04:29 PM

HD uses too much bandwidth and takes too long to download/buffer. Things may change when isp's allow for bigger gig usage and speeds are faster.

rokoroko 09-21-2009 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 16346004)
HD uses too much bandwidth and takes too long to download/buffer. Things may change when isp's allow for bigger gig usage and speeds are faster.

100Mega fiber line will cover it !

crockett 09-21-2009 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16345994)
surfers look for it. surfers buy it. that's all that matters. the rest. who cares?

Pretty much this...

bronco67 09-21-2009 04:36 PM

Someday, there will be no stadard def. What is considered HD now will be standard def, and this argument will be useless. Until they come out with SuperMegaDef 5 years later. By that time, we'll be beating our meat in our own personal Star Trek holodecks.

Riffhard 09-21-2009 05:35 PM

HD makes a great selling point, but I don't think it's necessary. Many surfers don't even have an LCD screen, many surfers are still on dial-up. How many HD hours will fit on an average 200gb hard drive? and many people still have computers that won't play them smoothly.

GrouchyAdmin 09-21-2009 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 16345874)
stretch marks, zits, infections up close is not my cup of tea

That's why I stopped watching CBS.

Joe King 09-21-2009 06:44 PM

yeah in reality HD does not matter to viewers, they will watch a cell phone video as long as the chick is hot

mikesouth 09-21-2009 07:53 PM

I am going to give every one of you some really good advice

whether you deliver your content in HD or not if you ARENT shooting in HD you will wish you had.

Mark my words

Jim_Gunn 09-21-2009 08:19 PM

I hire young girls with pretty good skin, so blemishes aren't much of an issue for me. Anyone suggesting that people should not shoot their own content in HD nowadays are foolish. You can always down-res, but you can't up-res later. When you shoot in HDV or HD, if you don't want the wide screen and larger file sizes, you can always center crop the video on capture or in editing if you don't want to deliver it to the end user in 16x9 and deliver it in a lower bitrate to shrink the file size. The same video will look better that way than an equivalent size video that was shot in a standard definition 4x3 frame size to begin with. I don't consider HD video that important of a selling point on it's own, but going forward, you'll have a better quality master and more current technology to re-purpose your content in the future if you do shoot in HD. I know that there is a lot of SD content that sells very well still, and a lot of lame HD content. But so what? Compare apples to apples- same scene, same talent, one shot in HDV or HD and one shot in SD. The former is always going to be superior quality if someone competent filmed it.

NaughtyRob 09-21-2009 08:22 PM

I have my members download it instead of streaming it and in my members areas I tell them that. They love the quality of HD.

Barefootsies 09-21-2009 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 16346687)
I hire young girls with pretty good skin, so blemishes aren't much of an issue for me. Anyone suggesting that people should not shoot their own content in HD nowadays are foolish. You can always down-res, but you can't up-res later. When you shoot in HDV or HD, if you don't want the wide screen and larger file sizes, you can always center crop the video on capture or in editing if you don't want to deliver it to the end user in 16x9 and deliver it in a lower bitrate to shrink the file size. The same video will look better that way than an equivalent size video that was shot in a standard definition 4x3 frame size to begin with. I don't consider HD video that important of a selling point on it's own, but going forward, you'll have a better quality master and more current technology to re-purpose your content in the future if you do shoot in HD. I know that there is a lot of SD content that sells very well still, and a lot of lame HD content. But so what? Compare apples to apples- same scene, same talent, one shot in HDV or HD and one shot in SD. The former is always going to be superior quality if someone competent filmed it.

:thumbsup

stickyfingerz 09-21-2009 08:27 PM

So basically if we don't shoot HD we can shoot uglier girls with skin issues and that seems like somehow a better product to sell your clients? :uhoh Or are people scared that they might have to step up their game with proper lighting, girls that don't do meth and have nasty rashes. So SD is like a beauty filter then? lol

stickyfingerz 09-21-2009 08:32 PM

Actually we should keep the same quality the tubes have. Stick with that..... Seems like a good idea.....

plsureking 09-21-2009 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rokoroko (Post 16345907)
but the future is in HD as all new TVs are actually in HD and the stream will go HD , so there will be no escape from it.HDTV and UltraHD TV than, something like (4000x2000)points

exactly. its on the customers minds.

just finished the build/launch of eroberlin.com. all HD vids of beautiful euro and russian girls. 3 streaming speeds. if yur chicks are hot, and it plays fast, the HD vids are a pleasure.

alexwoj 09-22-2009 12:00 AM

Hello

I think that HD is good to sell and convert, and bad to retain members, if it takes too long to load.

Most users does not understand if the video is HD or not. They like to believe that the video is HD, but they prefer a fast loading. At least this is the reality here in Brazil.

Here, we have to offer low definition videos as default. High definition videos leased from US based companies takes a long time to load, and it results in higher cancellation rates.

So I believe that the video can be HD or not, but it has to deliver a good user experience. I never got complains about the video NOT being HD. But got many complains about the video taking too much time to load.

User experience is everything.

Alex

Davy 09-22-2009 01:53 AM

HD can certainly be a blast.
But I haven't thought about seeing the nasty details...

Barefootsies 09-22-2009 01:55 AM

Long story short.

1. You should be shooting in HD today.
2. You can still deliver, and distribute, in a lower quality format.
3. You will thank someone from GFY later.

:2 cents:

StariaDaniel 09-22-2009 01:55 AM

Bottomline? Shoot no girls that aren't good enough for HD (hell, it's not like there's not enough good-looking talent on this planet ...) ...

Offer HD videos for the quality lovers with good connection
Offer a low-res version of the HD file (e.g. 640x360) for the members with slow connections, bad connections or member's who just want to get off fast without waiting for a big download to finish ...

Loch 09-22-2009 02:00 AM

If anyone wants to see true HD streaming contact me!!!!
Especially the haters, you will come back here begging to never use SD again :)


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