I need some quick advice
 

My ex-wife scheduled a flu shot for my daughter tomorrow. She is with me and I am suppose to bring her to get it.

I don't agree with flu shots... I'm not completely anti-flu shots but just think most healthy bodies do just fine without it.

I want to go to the diner instead of the doctor's office...

My question is this... If this went before a judge (it likely will)

Would the judge support my decision that I don't want any shit injected into my daughters body?

The answer is: Tough shit.

They say everyone under 25 should be getting the flu/H1N1 shot.

child abuse. i mean some may see it that was. just get the shot.

Good question. I would say it depends on the judge.

the flu and the other shot are different by a mile...

what I don't want to give my daughter is the every year flu shot...

H1N1 (i guess) is the swine flu shit and right now I would likely kill people if they were to inject that into my daughter's arm :2 cents:

Despite the CDC warnings of the swine flu pandemic prediction?
http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/acip.htm
http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/en/index.html

Just wow...

:2 cents:

yeah... that's what my ex listens to.

my aunt, mother, father, cousins... all my other aunts, uncles, etc. never had flu shots. I didn't either till I was married. I don't ever remember getting the flu except when I was young... maybe twice.

my thoughts... as a parent... I don't want, need, or welcome a proprietary shot.

The every year shot... I don't want my daughter to get either. She comes from my blood and doesn't need it.

My opinion is we are getting a big fat breakfast and I will put a little bandage on her arm so her mother thinks she is that much healthier :2 cents:

I am also against flu shots...
you don't have to do that with health bodies!!!

cool... I will take my daughter to a huge breakfast tomorrow. She won't have any BS on my watch... the strongest bodies are those with strong minds :2 cents:

NO SHOTS NEEDED! Me and my family are against it as much as possible....its all for the gov to make money with medical world...

so my ex called me from 8:00 to about 9:00 am. I never answered the phone... she also drove to my house and knocked on my door.

She left... thank the almighty above, and then called me at 9:05. She yelled at me for about 2 minutes and then I told her that I was at the doctors already. convo ended peacefully.

Then I got another phone call about 4:00 and she yelled at me till I hung up the phone.

I put a bandage on her arm but it was suppose to be the flu mist shot... woops.

tough call, i would probably do it just because it could really cost you if you dont

Wait..... you are PRETENDING she had the shot?

That is the worse thing you could do.

You and your ex should discuss this like adults with the medical practitioner that recommended it. If you can't agree, then I would have thought the final decision would be with whoever had custody.

50/50... that's the problem. I say no... she says yes.

I got caught...

btw... it is not the worst thing... I have my beliefs and she has hers... Being a crazy, controlling, cheating, cumguzzling, hobag, does not negate my position as a parent or father.

bottom line... i don't want her to ever get the flu shot but her deranged mother will do it on her time. What do I do now?

They don't have enough shots to cover every under 25, all the kids at that, let alone the old and sick.


I'm really not worried about them forcing it on my kids.




They could write a report like that on a 1000 other things that kill us every day, like fast food that is a poison.

do what's best for your daughter- don't make this an issue between mommie and daddie about daughter. you obviously have some pent-up resentment towards her mom that could be clouding your thought process.

No offense champ, but I think if I had kids I would listen to the World Health Organization, and the Center for Disease Control on the safety, and their recommendations, for my children in a pandemic.

Not some stranger off the internet, on an adult industry board.

:2 cents:

Very stupid. Not my kid, not my family so on a personal level I do not really give a shit. Straight out telling her no you will not get her one would be one thing (even though I do not agree with it). Trying to fake it and making her think you really did give her one was even more fucking stupid. Not only putting her at chance of getting the flu, but perhaps if she did get sick and the doctors asked about it and mom said yup she got it. Then they now have the wrong fucking information to work off of.

Then do keep in mind schools will not be shutting down when h1n1 shows up this time, and yes by all definitions it is a pandemic.

I respectively disagree... and a pandemic is only in what you read and see on tv.

It's a good thing most of us are lawyers

true dat...

I only live by one set of rules... and that set of rules is blowin' in the wind :thumbsup

Thank god, cause I don't listen to you people either and I sure don't listen to people that force a non tested vaccine down the arms of children.

If this was like the plague and just killing everyone that got it or even the majority, and on top of that lots of people were getting it. Then I would very worried.

The vaccine is the flu, so they can build up immunity to the flu, not stop them from getting it. You could still get it and still die from it, just like you could die from the vaccine.

A non tested, rushed on the market drug, so drug companies can profit before the rug is pulled out from under them.

Yeah... no way in hell.

i've seen tv commercials about doctors "NOW... NOW..." recommending the H1 something shot AND WOULD GIVE TO THEIR CHILDREN.

the problem is that "THAT" shot givin to people has killed them.

Why?

Because doctors are scrambling... no thank you!

KILLING PEOPLE... hello... wake up... KILLING PEOPLE with a shot...

NO THANKS! never needed it

Since when do kids die from the flu? They get sick, miss a couple days of school, get well, end of story. Or you could always inject them with new drugs with unknown side effects...

btw, nice job with the fake bandaid! That's a cool dad move! lol

Pandemic means it has spread to a certain number of countries. It is pretty cut and dry.
You can also disagree all you want, it is your kid. Hiding it instead of standing up for your beliefs is still wrong though and could lead to other issues if something did happen and if you still disagree with that, you have a very messed up way of thinking in regards to how diagnosis works.

How about since we have been on the planet until right now.

Guessing you too would also be one of those that said no to the brand new polio vaccine when it came out as well.

maybe... but that shot was the every day flu shot...

the pandemic of swine flu is going to come up... maybe your neighbour will tell ya about it... maybe the school.

I DEMAND YOU TO SHOOT INTO MY BODY THIS CRAZY FIX... I will live my life as I have and it was up to me... and me only... my daughter would never take a flu shot.

I don't agree with it... I won't take, and I don't want my daughter to take it.

I am fighting a battle that will go on for another 11 years though

Yeah. I had gotten a good chuckle off that as well.

I guess the word, 'pandemic', when used by world health organizations is now considered 'up in the air', or marginalized, by some. Even better yet,.. media manipulations.

Truly priceless.

Technically both are pandemics. Again it is just a word - fuck what tv says.
Again I have no real worries that you do not agree with it. Just do not like the lying about it. If I were in your shoes I would tell her no and got a quick injunction. Technically there is no reason why your kid needs the standard flu shot, unless she has other medical issues, will be around elderly or pregnant people, or you just want to be extra cautious.

I am not for shots for everyone. My lines are pretty clear. Pregnant people, elderly, people with health problems, people around those such people, and health care workers should get every type of flu shot each year. Still undecided about h1n1 (except for above), but fuck that is not even really available yet.

Okay? The normal flu is pandemic then, the common cold, respiratory infections, asthma, all of which can and do kill people and about 1000 other things that they don't put on the list.

You are right and wrong.

Yes the normal flu often is.
Some colds have been.
Just because it kills you or can makes it able to be on the list. It is not like you will catch asthma from someone.

my aunt has been a nurse in the ER for about 20 years... she also does not agree with the H1 shot...

AND HAS NEVER RECEIVED A FLU SHOT....

hmmm... she is around sick all day and does not agree with injecting yourself with a sickness... AND STILL WORKS, my aunt i mean... still works with no problems

True.. not asthma, but you could the other stuff... and for me, Yellow Fever (I live near Mexico). Which can damn sure kill people, and out break of that, is pandemic.

The H1N1, is a strong flu, it damn sure isn't anything like Yellow Fever or any other pandemic that is worth being worried about.

No.

Get the flu shot. I'm sick and it sucks fucking balls.

hope ya feel better! try a quick shot of tequila on me bro :thumbsup

You do know that many agencies including the CDC all agree that nurses who do bypass the flu shot are one of the number 1 spreaders of the flu. They just may not show symptoms themselves. Hell a number of DNA studies have traced assorted flu outbreaks to given hospitals and their staff.

So do not say with no problems. Then people wonder why some patients die of an unrelated illness when they were admitted.

Your aunt would also have no information that everyone else does not have about the h1n1 vaccine, only difference is she is a nurse and she is putting her judgment over patients lives and those judgements of scientists who specialize in these sort of things. Plus I have met more than my share of full on retarded nurses, many whom I have fired from my patient care because they could not understand other concepts like washing their fucking hands before touching me, only big problem with nurses is they are about as protected as teachers.

I do know that my aunt has been helping people for 20 years...

I do know that I have lived 35 years now and only taken the flu shot twice... both times when I was married.

I do believe in genetics... I do believe in my immune system.

Not sure what else to say man... I believe MY BODY AND MY DAUGHTER'S WILL FIGHT ANY THREAT... that's me...

Here is a song I love and wish would play more...

i am against it, everyone tries to mask up sickness instead of letting their immune system do what it has evolved to do.

Thats cool.
Just remember that those damn little bugs, parasites, and viruses not only evolve faster, they are better at it than we are.

none of you homos start shit... k?

jk... here is an old song I really liked as well... back in da day