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AmeliaG 10-22-2009 04:23 PM

Avn inside this thread!
 
I have never told anyone outside your company the things I know about AVN from my experiences working with you as a writer and photographer.

You sent a grody creep to interview me when you most recently profiled me. He hit on me relentlessly, got his facts wrong, and simply fabricated large portions of the profile. Then he kept calling my cell phone afterward to leave flirty messages being totally repulsive and telling me not to "trust" AVN and especially certain people he didn't like.

I didn't make a fuss then either, even though what was written was damaging and AVN should have had better personnel contacting me in your name.

So now AVN thinks it is a good idea to put up a profile saying I am a porn star??? I've emailed you and asked nicely that you remove the nonsense and have received no reply. So hopefully this gets a response.

I can't read whatever the 9 comments at http://www.avn.com/porn-stars/46323.html might be. I wouldn't mind knowing what that is all about too, if anyone else can see them. But take the page down please. An apology wouldn't hurt either.

Just because a woman works in adult does not make her a porn star and I am sick of AVN acting like my job is something other than what it is. There are always people who fail to close business deals with SpookyCash because, when it is time to make it happen, they want to talk to a man.

AVN is supposed to be able to tell people in the industry how to do business better.

Barefootsies 10-22-2009 04:25 PM


Adam_M 10-22-2009 04:29 PM

WOW more drama!

Adam_M 10-22-2009 04:34 PM

I dont see anything in your profile.

LeRoy 10-22-2009 04:38 PM

Daaaaayum. That's not cool.

theking 10-22-2009 04:39 PM

I do not see a photo of you or anything in your profile or any comments at all.

Atominder 10-22-2009 04:44 PM

Hi Amelia, I tried to reach you on icq before posting here. The profile you posted a link was empty (was 1st created back in 2002 and was last edited in 2007) from what I saw. I deleted it for you. If there is anything we can do for you please let me know. You can reach me at the icq I added you from and at [email protected]

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AmeliaG 10-22-2009 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atominder (Post 16456352)
Hi Amelia, I tried to reach you on icq before posting here. The profile you posted a link was empty (was 1st created back in 2002 and was last edited in 2007) from what I saw. I deleted it for you. If there is anything we can do for you please let me know. You can reach me at the icq I added you from and at [email protected]



Maybe the SEO on AVN changed when the AVN Online magazine folded and was absorbed, as I had not come across this "evidence" of my fictitious porn star career in the past. I would never have given AVN an interview (so you wouldn't have been able to send that creep to interview me), had I known of its existence.

Who created a porn star profile for me in 2002? What were the 9 comments? Who edited it in 2007 without deleting it for being obviously libelous? Higher ups at AVN have known me since the early 90's, so, while with a reg date of August 2009 for the person they had respond, AVN may appear to have no institutional memory, I know y'all know I am not a porn star.

I could observe on how quickly something posted on GFY got taken care of, when email got no answer, but we all already knew that. I suppose the emails I have in my address book are probably once again for people who no longer work at AVN.

Ayla_SquareTurtle 10-22-2009 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 16456319)
You sent a grody creep to interview me when you most recently profiled me. He hit on me relentlessly, got his facts wrong, and simply fabricated large portions of the profile. Then he kept calling my cell phone afterward to leave flirty messages being totally repulsive and telling me not to "trust" AVN and especially certain people he didn't like.

That's kind of :1orglaugh and :Oh crap at the same time.

FreeHugeMovies 10-22-2009 05:13 PM

Amelia doesn't take no prisoners!

Atominder 10-22-2009 05:26 PM

Amelia, there were no real comments at all attached to this profile. I can't tell who was the initial creator of it since website has gone through different CMS migrations over the years. It was last edited by AVN's head programmer most likely upon request.

You can observe fast responds @ gfy because I've been here since 2001 under Soul_Rebel nickname.

If you want to further discuss/investigate on this please contact Tom Hymes, AVN's Senior Editor, Online at 818.718.5788, x 162

thanks

Just Mike 10-22-2009 05:28 PM

that sucks.

sorry that happened to you.

AmeliaG 10-22-2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atominder (Post 16456445)
Amelia, there were no real comments at all attached to this profile. I can't tell who was the initial creator of it since website has gone through different CMS migrations over the years. It was last edited by AVN's head programmer most likely upon request.

You can observe fast responds @ gfy because I've been here since 2001 under Soul_Rebel nickname.

If you want to further discuss/investigate on this please contact Tom Hymes, AVN's Senior Editor, Online at 818.718.5788, x 162

thanks



I am an internet professional, so I use email, thanks. Tom Hymes is well-aware of who I am and what I do. He does not need me to call him on the phone to know I am not a porn star. What do you think I should tell him on the telephone vs. email?

You are an internet professional too, but you have worked for AVN so briefly that having you speak for them on something which you say happened before you got there is unfair to you at best.

I have repeatedly contacted AVN editors in private when grossly inaccurate stories were run because I felt like that was the way to handle it. Apparently AVN does not appreciate private communication, as I couldn't even get a page claiming I am a pornstar removed via private contact.

Who is AVN's head programmer and what "edit" did they do? Why did the screen say there were 9 comments?

Atominder 10-22-2009 05:59 PM

Mrs professional seeking private communication I can be reached at [email protected] and Tom at [email protected]

end of story

marketsmart 10-22-2009 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atominder (Post 16456526)
Mrs professional seeking private communication I can be reached at [email protected] and Tom at [email protected]

end of story

AVN sucks....

END OF STORY... :2 cents:

LoveSandra 10-22-2009 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 16456579)
AVN sucks....

END OF STORY... :2 cents:

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::thumbsup

dyna mo 10-22-2009 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atominder (Post 16456526)
Mrs professional seeking private communication I can be reached at [email protected] and Tom at [email protected]

end of story

avn burned me for $7 grand, selling me the last spot on their interstitial back in the day.

then they burned me fucking up my full page ad in their industry directory,and the empty promises to make it right. then the sara sazzman fiasco, where she took her rolodex with her to xbiz, bombarding me with emails.

all the while emails continued from avn, after i emailed them numerous times to be removed from their list.

so it's more than clear to me who the professional is not, in this thread.

NaughtyRob 10-22-2009 06:43 PM

Amen sister, thats bullshit. They need to get the facts straight.

dial 10-22-2009 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atominder (Post 16456526)
end of story

idiot

end of story

AmeliaG 10-22-2009 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atominder (Post 16456526)
Mrs professional seeking private communication I can be reached at [email protected] and Tom at [email protected]

end of story



After calling me a porn star, which is potentially very professionally damaging to someone with my job, I think you could be a little bit less sarcastic about my status as an internet professional. After yet another egregious gaffe like this, the professional thing would be for AVN to send someone to the boards to smooth things over, not to tell off the person libeled by AVN.

Where did I say I was seeking private communication? In point of fact, I said that I had repeatedly contacted AVN privately over the years and that absolutely nothing had come of any private communication with AVN ever. You were the one who said I should contact you privately, when I already had contacted AVN privately on this particular matter (and many others), but it took a GFY post to get any action from AVN.

dyna mo 10-22-2009 07:20 PM

i am VERY aroused now.

Loch 10-22-2009 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atominder (Post 16456526)
Mrs professional seeking private communication I can be reached at [email protected] and Tom at [email protected]

end of story

Now see that is right out of line right there!
You clearly seen to know she is speaking the truth here or has a point, deinvolve yourself and get in touch with someone that has the seniority to take over :2 cents:

Ayla_SquareTurtle 10-22-2009 07:39 PM

So, reading comprehension and PR skills aren't needed to run a media outlet? Nice to know.

AmeliaG 10-22-2009 08:37 PM

I would like AVN to remove their libelous claim that I am a porn star from every page it appears on please. Not just the one.

the Shemp 10-22-2009 10:49 PM

- bump -

jcsike 10-22-2009 11:27 PM

the soul_rebel? wow, amazing

TheSenator 10-22-2009 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 16456579)
AVN sucks....

END OF STORY... :2 cents:



Please, leave the trust fund babies alone.


They have done xxxxx for the industry and xxxx for the affiliate market. Currently, they are a leader in xxxxx and their traffic and plugs are xxxxxxxxxxx....


AVN for the WIN!


























:laughing-:laughing-

WiredGuy 10-23-2009 01:17 AM

Wow. Sorry this happened to you Amelia :(
WG

Atominder 10-23-2009 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 16456723)
Where did I say I was seeking private communication? In point of fact, I said that I had repeatedly contacted AVN privately over the years and that absolutely nothing had come of any private communication with AVN ever. You were the one who said I should contact you privately, when I already had contacted AVN privately on this particular matter (and many others), but it took a GFY post to get any action from AVN.

Amelia, I contacted you on ICQ and you didn't respond. I gave you my contact info where I'm reachable most of the day including weekends to assist you, but you insist on posting here instead. I sent a request to look up where your name shows up and be removed too. I removed myself the page you posted after like 10-20 min. If you had emailed me I would have done the same, at the same time. My thunderbird has 1min interval checking at the email I posted.

I'm sorry to hear you had this bad experience and my apologies if I sounded rude yesterday. Sincerely I'm not used on people having a hostile attitude towards me. I don't know who that guy was or what was his name. If I were you I would share it with the rest of us. I'm not a PR guy myself, but I've been on forums for a decade and I have handled truly tough situations for companies better than any PR guy would have done. How? By being myself and remaining honest and fair on each occasion.

There are 100s of people that have been employed by AVN in the past, a lot of which have done their share of things. I don't know too many things on the company's past employees, but I've met most of AVN's currently employed personnel and I have a strong confidence it's a great team that I want to be associated with. I have a word on who gets hired with AVN on the on-line division and those associated with it and believe me there is no chance on earth an idiot or scumbag will pass the CV process.

thank you

Atominder 10-23-2009 11:47 AM

sorry I forgot to answer your question on the 8 comments, this was hard-coded to the particular template and something the programmers work on.

seeandsee 10-23-2009 12:23 PM

i am drama and my nick name is lama :D

american pervert 10-23-2009 02:41 PM

so where can i score some naked pix of amelia g?

AmeliaG 10-23-2009 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atominder (Post 16458923)
Amelia, I contacted you on ICQ and you didn't respond. I gave you my contact info where I'm reachable most of the day including weekends to assist you, but you insist on posting here instead. I sent a request to look up where your name shows up and be removed too. I removed myself the page you posted after like 10-20 min. If you had emailed me I would have done the same, at the same time. My thunderbird has 1min interval checking at the email I posted.

I'm sorry to hear you had this bad experience and my apologies if I sounded rude yesterday. Sincerely I'm not used on people having a hostile attitude towards me. I don't know who that guy was or what was his name. If I were you I would share it with the rest of us. I'm not a PR guy myself, but I've been on forums for a decade and I have handled truly tough situations for companies better than any PR guy would have done. How? By being myself and remaining honest and fair on each occasion.

There are 100s of people that have been employed by AVN in the past, a lot of which have done their share of things. I don't know too many things on the company's past employees, but I've met most of AVN's currently employed personnel and I have a strong confidence it's a great team that I want to be associated with. I have a word on who gets hired with AVN on the on-line division and those associated with it and believe me there is no chance on earth an idiot or scumbag will pass the CV process.

thank you


I don't know where you got the idea I have a hostile attitude toward you. The difficulty is that you have only been at AVN since August. The only message I see from you is one which says (I hope you don't mind me posting our ICQ convo) "Hi there" and that's it. I have contacted AVN privately many many times over the years and AVN has not taken care of anything I addressed privately either in person or on the phone or on ICQ or via email. I extended AVN a courtesy of addressing this directly over and over again and I feel I have gotten very little for doing so. The higher ups at AVN maybe just don't spend much time thinking about the promises they have made me over the years and not kept and the rest of the people are only there a couple months. It is very frustrating and I am sick of dealing with some person who has barely gotten their AVN business cards in telling me how it is.

It seems like the first thing any web professional would do is a search on Amelia G and AmeliaG on the site: http://www.avn.com/search/search.pl?...eSubmit=Search and also within AVN's databases. It looks like somebody sort of thought to do that this morning, but now there is a thing which says Porn Star Deleted . . . including as the author of the only article I've written for AVN in years at http://business.avn.com/articles/3835.html You will note that it is an article on monetizing niche traffic and not on an area a porn star's expertise would be likely to be in, yet clearly the porn star tag was attached to my author name.

It seems like it would be fairly simple to search for the probably fewer than a hundred times my name has come up in AVN and select out the ones which involved interviews, if anyone at AVN is actually even halfway acting like they don't know which gropey harassing creep I am talking about above. You don't really want me to start naming names and details about AVN's business and who has ever done something they shouldn't or what their real business or sex goals have been etc., do you?

I don't think we are remotely at that holy war level of bad and I wouldn't feel right about doing so.

If you really can't figure it out, tell me in public what you will do with the information on who that specific person among many was, and I will tell you privately if there is any benefit whatsoever to doing so.

Atominder 10-23-2009 05:03 PM

I tried to initiate a contact, if you wanted/interested to follow up you could had reply to my message. I preferred the private communication for a single reason: it's faster for both parties and I don't have to monitor the forum for a response. AVN has been a client of mine since June. No business card over here, but be assured you are not getting ignored.

You are free to post whatever you want. I'm the last person to limit your right to express your thoughts or share your experiences. The opposite, if it takes I'll defend that.

I can't do anything with the information of the person who bothered you (7-8 ? years ago), yet common logic says rest of the people reading this would be interested to find out and stay away from him. Simple as that.

AmeliaG 10-23-2009 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atominder (Post 16460239)
I tried to initiate a contact, if you wanted/interested to follow up you could had reply to my message. I preferred the private communication for a single reason: it's faster for both parties and I don't have to monitor the forum for a response. AVN has been a client of mine since June. No business card over here, but be assured you are not getting ignored.

You are free to post whatever you want. I'm the last person to limit your right to express your thoughts or share your experiences. The opposite, if it takes I'll defend that.

I can't do anything with the information of the person who bothered you (7-8 ? years ago), yet common logic says rest of the people reading this would be interested to find out and stay away from him. Simple as that.



I did contact AVN privately when I saw that AVN was calling me a porn star. Repeatedly. Nothing happened. I posted on GFY and you took care of part of it immediately. I would like the rest of it taken care of now please.

What makes you think 7-8 years was the timeline for AVN sending a creepy sexually harassing interview-fictionalizing writer to interview me?

I'm sure the rest of the people reading GFY would be entertained if I detailed every single experience I have had with AVN since the early 90's, but I'm also pretty sure I don't want to do that and AVN brass doesn't want me to do that either.

Atominder 10-23-2009 06:06 PM

Amelia, please send me rest pages you see your name and they will be taken care of asap. The profile was created back in 2002 (i can hand you a screenshot I took before deleting it) so I assumed the timeframe the incident happened. I guess it's something more recent, feel free to specify it if you want. I can't make up for any broken promises of the past and I make sure to keep mine.

Honestly I don't think you have been ignored on purpose. AVN Media Network website is outdated containing contacts of people that do not work with us. A similar topic was at gfy about a month ago. The new corporate site will be shortly up addressing this issue. Thank you.

AmeliaG 10-23-2009 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atominder (Post 16460344)
Amelia, please send me rest pages you see your name and they will be taken care of asap. The profile was created back in 2002 (i can hand you a screenshot I took before deleting it) so I assumed the timeframe the incident happened. I guess it's something more recent, feel free to specify it if you want. I can't make up for any broken promises of the past and I make sure to keep mine.

Honestly I don't think you have been ignored on purpose. AVN Media Network website is outdated containing contacts of people that do not work with us. A similar topic was at gfy about a month ago. The new corporate site will be shortly up addressing this issue. Thank you.


I think you are right that it is not on purpose. I think the long-term people at AVN just don't think about it and the rest tends to be a revolving door of people who mean well but have no institutional memory to draw on and may not be there long enough to keep any promises made.

do is a search on Amelia G and AmeliaG on the AVN sites, as I suggested earlier in the thread. The two obvious links I found and posted previously in this thread are http://www.avn.com/search/search.pl?...eSubmit=Search and where the Porn Star DELETED stuff is attached to the byline of the only article I've written for AVN in years at http://business.avn.com/articles/3835.html You will note that it is an article on monetizing niche traffic and not on an area a porn star's expertise would be likely to be in, yet clearly the porn star tag was attached to my author name, and still is somewhat associated but with a DELETED appended. That is what I would like fixed at this time please.

Daruma 10-23-2009 06:46 PM

Tom you sound like an ass

http://vote29.com/myblog/wp-content/...ead_up_ass.jpe

Slow and painful death to AVN :thumbsup

diesel 10-24-2009 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atominder (Post 16456352)
Hi Amelia, I tried to reach you on icq before posting here. The profile you posted a link was empty (was 1st created back in 2002 and was last edited in 2007) from what I saw. I deleted it for you. If there is anything we can do for you please let me know. You can reach me at the icq I added you from and at [email protected]

Hey Soul,

This is how the dog from your avatar looks today (and the owner of it)

http://content.dieselaccess.com/news...gfy/theo/1.jpg

http://content.dieselaccess.com/news...gfy/theo/2.jpg

http://content.dieselaccess.com/news...gfy/theo/3.jpg

:upsidedow


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