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Barefootsies 02-17-2010 06:44 PM

Other Than WiredGuy....
 
.... who else has started moving into mainstream for the BULK of their online business?

I have read across the various boards that more people are splitting time between mainstream and adult, and either the EASE of the transition or the DIFFICULTY with so many more sharks chasing the same AdSense pennies.

:helpme

mmcfadden 02-17-2010 06:47 PM

yes... solar energy right now

Barefootsies 02-17-2010 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16860623)
yes... solar energy right now

I thought you and your partner bought that fetish studio over in Philly?

:helpme

mmcfadden 02-17-2010 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16860626)
I thought you and your partner bought that fetish studio over in Philly?

:helpme

Still do porn for sure. Just solar as well.

But to answer your question our landlord was being tough about getting out of the lease which he was already giving us a killer deal on... so last minute bail out :(

alias 02-17-2010 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16860626)
I thought you and your partner bought that fetish studio over in Philly?

:helpme

Solar powered studio?

plsureking 02-17-2010 06:51 PM

ya thats a good question lol

i havent done any major corporate work since before 2000 but i am planning on picking up some mainstream projects this year. my reason is just to get some stress free hours of the day, rather than just dealing with porn scumbags all the time.

i did a few teaser projects and mainstream traffic generation is a breeze after spending a decade in porn.

WiredGuy 02-17-2010 06:51 PM

There's no money in mainstream. Please keep doing porn. Thank you.
WG

Barefootsies 02-17-2010 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 16860633)
There's no money in mainstream. Please keep doing porn. Thank you.
WG

I thought your company line was, "there is no money in SEO".... :winkwink:

Barefootsies 02-17-2010 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16860629)
Still do porn for sure. Just solar as well.

But to answer your question our landlord was being tough about getting out of the lease which he was already giving us a killer deal on... so last minute bail out :(

Ah ok. Was just curious.

Last we had talked, you were looking to buy that fetish porn production deal there in Philly. So I was not sure if that had kept you busy and off the sauce or what?

:winkwink:

Agent 488 02-17-2010 06:58 PM

jumping in the shallow end is a goal for this year. been out of it for so long thing's have changed so much re: social media and shit.

XPays 02-17-2010 07:01 PM

http://Nonadult.com is expanding rapidly

new offers coming in March: acai, colon, get ripped & auto debt refi

Bman 02-17-2010 07:02 PM

More and more...Pay better, less hassles, more creativity, more clients...99% of business' sell something other then porn...

Ayla_SquareTurtle 02-17-2010 07:05 PM

I have no plans to get out of adult unless I stop making money in adult, but all of my serious growth and work is now in mainstream.

alias 02-17-2010 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays (Post 16860669)
http://Nonadult.com is expanding rapidly

new offers coming in March: acai, colon, get ripped & auto debt refi

Looks good!

Barefootsies 02-17-2010 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays (Post 16860669)
http://Nonadult.com is expanding rapidly

new offers coming in March: acai, colon, get ripped & auto debt refi

Interesting...

Barefootsies 02-17-2010 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bman (Post 16860673)
More and more...Pay better, less hassles, more creativity, more clients...99% of business' sell something other then porn...

Glad to hear you are thriving BROmance.
:thumbsup

TheDoc 02-17-2010 07:11 PM

I have... a growing part of my business is mainstream business. I have also tested a ton of mainstream products, programs, from ppc to mail..

It's easier to make money in porn, its easier to make it from multiple sources, its easier to build traffic, it's easier to explore and not get raped, it's all around easier in adult.

It's easier to promote your program/products in adult, to adult affiliates than it is to mainstream affiliates. It's easier to get those affiliates to try new sites and products.

The difference is when you find something that makes money in mainstream, it has a bigger chance of making a lot more money - at the affiliate level for sure.

Anyone wanting to go mainstream I would truly start with yourself. Brand 'you', your name.. be super friendly/helpful, well before you try to sell, build a following around 'you' and when it comes time to sell them, it will be way easier to move them around, do giveaways, and give you social/viral bumps when asked.

Barefootsies 02-17-2010 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 16860682)
I have no plans to get out of adult unless I stop making money in adult, but all of my serious growth and work is now in mainstream.

I hear you. My profit margins on my productions are still too good to leave adult. I really have no intention of ever leaving it. It will always make me money. Plus I enjoy shooting my own personal toe porns finances by the members and patrons. So there is no incentive for me to leave. Even if this industry crashed and burned, it would still be very profitable for me to still be in the markets I am in.

That said, I have dabbled in mainstream on and off over the years. I am actually looking to move up a few plans that have been on the back burner and test the water some more in 2010 to see how things go.

Barefootsies 02-17-2010 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16860730)
It's easier to make money in porn, its easier to make it from multiple sources, its easier to build traffic, it's easier to explore and not get raped, it's all around easier in adult.

True dat.

If you think adult is full of scammers and low lifes. You have not seen nothing until you have played in the mainstream boards, and markets for a few years. Some of the people are relentless and ruthless beyond anything I have seen in adult....

Voodoo 02-17-2010 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 16860633)
There's no money in mainstream. Please keep doing porn. Thank you.
WG

I don't believe you.

Bman 02-17-2010 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16860730)
I have... a growing part of my business is mainstream business. I have also tested a ton of mainstream products, programs, from ppc to mail..

It's easier to make money in porn, its easier to make it from multiple sources, its easier to build traffic, it's easier to explore and not get raped, it's all around easier in adult.

It's easier to promote your program/products in adult, to adult affiliates than it is to mainstream affiliates. It's easier to get those affiliates to try new sites and products.

The difference is when you find something that makes money in mainstream, it has a bigger chance of making a lot more money - at the affiliate level for sure.

Anyone wanting to go mainstream I would truly start with yourself. Brand 'you', your name.. be super friendly/helpful, well before you try to sell, build a following around 'you' and when it comes time to sell them, it will be way easier to move them around, do giveaways, and give you social/viral bumps when asked.

Well said!

Barefootsies 02-17-2010 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voodoo (Post 16860745)
I don't believe you.

:winkwink:

$5 submissions 02-17-2010 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 16860633)
There's no money in mainstream. Please keep doing porn. Thank you.
WG

heheeh :1orglaugh:thumbsup

Sosa 02-17-2010 07:52 PM

Yep, have been for quite a while now.

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Barefootsies 02-17-2010 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 16860857)
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beemk 02-17-2010 08:58 PM

chasing the same adsense pennies? if you think that the bulk of money in mainstream is in promoting adsense you're a bigger idiot than i initially thought you were.

Barefootsies 02-17-2010 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk (Post 16861024)
chasing the same adsense pennies? if you think that the bulk of money in mainstream is in promoting adsense you're a bigger idiot than i initially thought you were.

Funny how most others, with a brain, in the thread caught the sarcasm other than you, fucking retard.

Hence the remark about 'pennies'.

:disgust

Jack Sparrow 02-18-2010 02:16 AM

3d movies and 3d home cinema is the road i follow besides porn.

Farang 02-18-2010 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 16860633)
There's no money in mainstream. Please keep doing porn. Thank you.
WG

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Barefootsies 02-18-2010 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 16861486)
3d movies and 3d home cinema is the road i follow besides porn.

Interesting sire.

candyflip 02-18-2010 07:35 AM

Most of my work is mainstream at this point. When I noticed things going downhill a few years back I decided to go more mainstream instead of coming up with something new in adult.

Kard63 02-18-2010 08:26 AM

Do any mainstream companies give you the opportunity to sell like a retailer? They all feel scammy.

fuzebox 02-18-2010 08:51 AM

I've tried several times over the last couple of years and failed...

FrozenJag 02-18-2010 08:57 AM

100 percent adult here. Dont plan on changing anytime soon either.

Its too bad people dont go into more detail other then "mainstream".

Atleast a few people mentioned niches which is really cool.

Barefootsies 02-18-2010 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 16862167)
I've tried several times over the last couple of years and failed...

Really?

Thanks for the honesty. You are such a driven mofo, I can't see you failing when you go at something 100% but I suppose it can happen.

Barefootsies 02-18-2010 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrozenJag (Post 16862189)
100 percent adult here. Dont plan on changing anytime soon either.

Its too bad people dont go into more detail other then "mainstream".

Atleast a few people mentioned niches which is really cool.

It is the old adult/online mentality. If you mention something, then by tomorrow morning you will have 1000 competitors overnight. Ya know... those who have the capital and time on hand to drop everything else they are doing right now, and who will somehow manage to do everything you are doing 100% and make 500% times more money.

As most people know, who've been doing this a few years anyway, you can give someone the exact blue print of everything you are doing, and they can still fail (or do better). There is always something missing. Whether it is the drive, consistency or endless other things in the equation.

FrozenJag 02-18-2010 09:02 AM

What are some of the popular mainstream webmaster boards?

I wouldnt mind having a look see. :)

Barefootsies 02-18-2010 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrozenJag (Post 16862209)
What are some of the popular mainstream webmaster boards?

I wouldnt mind having a look see. :)

sitepoint
wickedfire
digitalpoint
IQ69

...to name a few.

However, get your waders on. You're gonna need em.

I can assure you that you will have a new found appreciation for the adult industry after you have spent some time reading and researching on mainstream boards.

FrozenJag 02-18-2010 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16862206)
It is the old adult/online mentality. If you mention something, then by tomorrow morning you will have 1000 competitors overnight. Ya know... those who have the capital and time on hand to drop everything else they are doing right now, and who will somehow manage to do everything you are doing 100% and make 500% times more money.

As most people know, who've been doing this a few years anyway, you can give someone the exact blue print of everything you are doing, and they can still fail (or do better). There is always something missing. Whether it is the drive, consistency or endless other things in the equation.

True That.

I can kindof understand that but hell just mentioning your general niche and even type of site probably wont make 2 shits on an adult board. Probably 1000 other people doing it anyway. :)

It seems like adult webmasters are pretty open to what they are doing, but when it comes to mainstream they all of a sudden put a huge guard up.


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