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Mutt 05-25-2010 05:16 PM

Netbilling how does it feel to have your company......
 
linked to CP in the adult press and soon to be mainstream press?

CCBILL take note, shut them down now. You have thousands of clients who aren't involved in this shit and don't deserve to be associated with this shit.

wdsguy 05-25-2010 05:16 PM

drama llama says waddup.

Nikki_Licks 05-25-2010 05:21 PM

Interesting.......didn't hear anything about this.

You have a link to this info?

Mutt 05-25-2010 05:25 PM

http://www.xbiz.com/news/120984

TheDoc 05-25-2010 05:31 PM

All the processors, hosts, registrars have to do is show that they took action once notified... it won't make it to court for them if they.

Mutt 05-25-2010 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17173802)
All the processors, hosts, registrars have to do is show that they took action once notified... it won't make it to court for them if they.

the absolute last thing i'd ever want my name to even be associated with is CP - once the mainstream press digs a little they'll see what the adult industry has been hiding and what it knew and when they knew it. going to jail isn't the only concern, monetary damages isn't the only concern.

Nikki_Licks 05-25-2010 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 17173788)

Thanks ;)

Why 05-25-2010 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17173802)
All the processors, hosts, registrars have to do is show that they took action once notified... it won't make it to court for them if they.

depending on how you read the article, it seemed that they are being taken to court for not taking stuff down. the article mentions the SeeMyGF.com removed he photos and was not prosecuted.

maybe more people should start sending DMCAs to the billers, that way they will kill their crap clients to avoid prosecution.

TheDoc 05-25-2010 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 17173811)
the absolute last thing i'd ever want my name to even be associated with is CP - once the mainstream press digs a little they'll see what the adult industry has been hiding and what it knew and when they knew it. going to jail isn't the only concern, monetary damages isn't the only concern.

VISA and ISP's and companies like MS have been accused of being associated with CP... It's only a problem for those that actually did it.

LickMyBalls 05-25-2010 05:40 PM

Sent to AP and Drudge :thumbsup:1orglaugh

TheDoc 05-25-2010 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why (Post 17173820)
depending on how you read the article, it seemed that they are being taken to court for not taking stuff down. the article mentions the SeeMyGF.com removed he photos and was not prosecuted.

maybe more people should start sending DMCAs to the billers, that way they will kill their crap clients to avoid prosecution.

If you're shown what you think is a valid id/release, you wouldn't take it down either. No way the hosts/processors, etc could be held responsible for checking that everything is legal.

KillerK 05-25-2010 05:43 PM

like it's the billing programs fault.

Mutt 05-25-2010 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 17173831)
like it's the billing programs fault.

the processors read GFY and all the other boards where these sites and what's on them have been discussed for years now. they don't operate or own ex-gf sites with non compliant 2257 content with models of unknown and dubious age but to make an analogy, it's like selling your services that you know would aid and abet terrorists or Nazi's or whatever bad guys. There's an ethical thing here - just because you can doesn't mean you should. Processors can take a look at a site and say 'no thanks, find another processor'.

JFK 05-25-2010 05:58 PM

why is Netbilling being singled out here ? there are 2 other billing companies mentioned as well:2 cents:

"The suit also targets SickBucks.com, which operates KinkyGFS.com, and processor Jettis and its 365Billing.com unit, as well as NetBilling, calling the companies as "revenue program defendants" so that the plaintiff can seek complete injunctive relief. It also names Moniker Privacy Services and Whois Privacy Protection."

TheDoc 05-25-2010 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 17173853)
the processors read GFY and all the other boards where these sites and what's on them have been discussed for years now. they don't operate or own ex-gf sites with non compliant 2257 content with models of unknown and dubious age but to make an analogy, it's like selling your services that you know would aid and abet terrorists or Nazi's or whatever bad guys. There's an ethical thing here - just because you can doesn't mean you should. Processors can take a look at a site and say 'no thanks, find another processor'.

I agree with ya that it's f'ed up... if anything it's going to give them some strong power about enforcing 2257 alllll the way down the chain.

Btw, CCBill and Epoch have asked for ID's before... but we can't expect them to keep up with everyone or every update.

Why 05-25-2010 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17173830)
If you're shown what you think is a valid id/release, you wouldn't take it down either. No way the hosts/processors, etc could be held responsible for checking that everything is legal.

well since they clearly didnt have IDs it would lead me to believe that the processor did nothing, else they wouldnt be named. im sure her attorney is smart enough to know how it all works.

Dan 05-25-2010 06:08 PM

This is a croc. Someone better call out the power company for supplying the power that runs the servers quick. To insinuate that NetBilling would knowingly support this type of Bullshit is a croc of shit.

LickMyBalls 05-25-2010 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamZ_Dan (Post 17173890)
This is a croc. Someone better call out the power company for supplying the power that runs the servers quick. To insinuate that NetBilling would knowingly support this type of Bullshit is a croc of shit.


chupachups 05-25-2010 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 17173866)
why is Netbilling being singled out here ? there are 2 other billing companies mentioned as well:2 cents:

Yeah but Jettis and 365 are already dead arent they?

Robbie 05-25-2010 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 17173866)
why is Netbilling being singled out here ? there are 2 other billing companies mentioned as well:2 cents:

This is GFY, somebody always has an agenda it seems.

ShellyCrash 05-25-2010 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamZ_Dan (Post 17173890)
This is a croc. Someone better call out the power company for supplying the power that runs the servers quick. To insinuate that NetBilling would knowingly support this type of Bullshit is a croc of shit.

I agree.

They've got 2257 info posted on the site - goes to the following:

http://www.slutgfs.com/2257.html

I haven't seen anything here calling out kinkygfs.com , so don't think its fair to throw netbilling under the bus.

ExGf sites have a real good thing going- but if you run a content pay site you need to buy your fucking content. When you break the law you don't just bring hassle for you, you bring hassel and additional scrutiny to us all.

AMAKings, maybe its time you guys take the fucking minors out of your tour. Wake up call.

ProG 05-25-2010 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamZ_Dan (Post 17173890)
This is a croc. Someone better call out the power company for supplying the power that runs the servers quick. To insinuate that NetBilling would knowingly support this type of Bullshit is a croc of shit.

Doesn't it also name Whios Guard? Why not go for the power company too :winkwink:

LoveSandra 05-25-2010 06:32 PM

Interesting opinion

sexdatesj 05-25-2010 06:35 PM

Where is the proof or written articles linking them to this ? That is only fair..correct ?

Barefootsies 05-25-2010 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17173802)
All the processors, hosts, registrars have to do is show that they took action once notified... it won't make it to court for them if they.

Exactamundo.

Once they are made aware of the offender, they simply have to close/freeze their account. That is the beauty of the internet, just like DMCA. Once notified, remove it, back to business.

LickMyBalls 05-25-2010 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexdatesj (Post 17174012)
Where is the proof or written articles linking them to this ? That is only fair..correct ?

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/cou...ase_id-245333/

LickMyBalls 05-25-2010 06:54 PM

"and John Does 1-500" :thumbsup

Fletch XXX 05-25-2010 06:57 PM

only a matter of time.

kristin 05-25-2010 07:15 PM

It's never good when these types of cases are filed in Florida, doesn't seem to go well. At least it's in Seminole county.

TheDoc 05-25-2010 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why (Post 17173885)
well since they clearly didnt have IDs it would lead me to believe that the processor did nothing, else they wouldnt be named. im sure her attorney is smart enough to know how it all works.

Your assuming that they asked for that ID and not an ID just to confirm that they appeared to comply, as I said they can't ask for every update and I can't assume she notified them of anything...

"The revenue program defendants are not accused of wrongdoing, nevertheless they are included as defendants in this action so that Doe may seek complete injunctive relief,"

They aren't accused of not complying... they just want them to stop at every point possible. A rather logical move.

Just Mike 05-25-2010 08:57 PM

this is a really weak accusation. use common sense...Netbilling wouldn't knowingly support this type of content. Seems like you started this thread for dubious reasons in my opinion.

crockett 05-25-2010 09:14 PM

More interesting, is the fact that they are going after EX GF sites that were scraping the net on CP charges. This should be a wake up call for all those morons pushing the scraped content sites.

Knew this would happen sooner or later and it's why I sold off most of my teen network and moved on to other things. You couldn't get away from those fucking scraped exGF sites because every trade had them or traded with someone whom did.

TBH though I've seen way worse than those sites and those sites appear to at least have legit content on the tours, unlike many of the others that are out there.

xNetworx 05-25-2010 09:20 PM

I always wondered how those paysites were not shut down.

Raja 05-25-2010 10:12 PM

Netbilling is only a gateway. Every site they process for has to be approved by the merchant bank NOT Netbilling. Your blaming the wrong people.

papill0n 05-25-2010 10:16 PM

How do you think it fucking feels ?

shitty thread

Robbie 05-25-2010 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raja (Post 17174435)
Netbilling is only a gateway. Every site they process for has to be approved by the merchant bank NOT Netbilling. Your blaming the wrong people.

Please don't bring facts into an attempted "mob mentality" lynching thread.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Actually, it's ok. This one has already kinda backfired, as it should have.

EDIT: Though I am in agreement about some of the "girlfriend" sites having stolen content and no 2257 docs
I just don't think that blaming Netbilling was appropriate. As you said, the merchant banks are the ones that hit you with an anal probe and want to know everything about your business. They even took pictures of our office! Netbilling has nothing to do with any of that.

Yanks_Todd 05-25-2010 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamZ_Dan (Post 17173890)
This is a croc. Someone better call out the power company for supplying the power that runs the servers quick. To insinuate that NetBilling would knowingly support this type of Bullshit is a croc of shit.


I completely second that Dan

ShellyCrash 05-25-2010 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 17174318)
TBH though I've seen way worse than those sites and those sites appear to at least have legit content on the tours, unlike many of the others that are out there.

That's why I think its harder to lay blame. The content looks similar to alot of the exgf packages currently being bought and sold and they post the 2257. Personally, in this case with what they had at hand, I don't think the biller should be culpable. :2 cents:

NETbilling 05-26-2010 12:35 AM

Thanks for the support everyone. Not sure why Mutt would insinuate that we would support any of this or not take any action. We have not yet been served with anything but are surely looking into this and taking appropriate action. Everyone knows we are extremely ethical and would never be involved with this.

BTW Mutt - who are you telling CCbill to shut down?

Jack Sparrow 05-26-2010 01:24 AM

Mutt mutt mutt.

Maybe you should think a little before postin a twisted story here that doesntbmake much sense at all.

Theres so many wrongs in what you post, where you drunk at the time you posted this?


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