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theking 06-06-2010 05:02 PM

66 years ago today our troops landed at
 
...Normandy. Today is D-Day. I salute the fallen and those that survived that day...there are fewer and fewer of them every year that goes by.

DaddyHalbucks 06-06-2010 05:06 PM

They were The Greatest Generation, no doubt.

Anybody in Europe want to add their thoughts, for what the day means to you?

dropped9 06-06-2010 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 17223043)
They were The Greatest Generation, no doubt.

I agree... :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

cykoe6 06-06-2010 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17223037)
...Normandy. Today is D-Day. I salute the fallen and those that survived that day...there are fewer and fewer of them every year that goes by.

:thumbsup

Helix 06-06-2010 05:10 PM

My uncle was there and he didn't have 1 kind word for President Eisenhower. He has passed btw. :-(

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-06-2010 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 17223043)
They were The Greatest Generation, no doubt.

Anybody in Europe want to add their thoughts, for what the day means to you?


Why did it take you 5 years to join the party?

DVTimes 06-06-2010 05:13 PM

is that the war the usa joined near the end?

Paul Waters 06-06-2010 05:15 PM

The Canadians got Juno Beach.

My Grandfather was there. Fortunately he survived.

rogueteens 06-06-2010 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17223053)
Why did it take you 5 years to join the party?

Because they wanted to shaft Britain first by expecting the UK to pay for them. It worked too, because of WW2, Britain lost an empire and gained massive debts. Most of Britain's woes since, including the present day can be traced back to the war.
Even Churchill said after the war that if he could chose he would be an American because he knew that the UK had also effectively lost the war.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-06-2010 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 17223064)
Because they wanted to shaft Britain first by expecting the UK to pay for them. It worked too, because of WW2, Britain lost an empire and gained massive debts. Most of Britain's woes since, including the present day can be traced back to the war.
Even Churchill said after the war that if he could chose he would be an American because he knew that the UK had also effectively lost the war.

Didn’t know that.

Helix 06-06-2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17223056)
is that the war the usa joined near the end?

Yes...the war that wouldn't have been won if thw US wasn't sending our young men to fight for your ground and our factories pumping armements out 24/7 to support the cause. Our entire country was dedicated to do our best to help win.

On D-Day, the Allies landed around 156,000 troops in Normandy. The American forces landed numbered 73,000

The Allied casualties figures for D-Day have generally been estimated at 10,000, including 2500 dead. Broken down by nationality, the usual D-Day casualty figures are approximately 2700 British, 946 Canadians, and 6603 Americans. However recent painstaking research by the US National D-Day Memorial Foundation has achieved a more accurate - and much higher - figure for the Allied personnel who were killed on D-Day. They have recorded the names of individual Allied personnel killed on 6 June 1944 in Operation Overlord, and so far they have verified 2499 American D-Day fatalities and 1915 from the other Allied nations, a total of 4414 dead (much higher than the traditional figure of 2500 dead).

The breakdown of US casualties was 1465 dead, 3184 wounded, 1928 missing and 26 captured. Of the total US figure, 2499 casualties were from the US airborne troops (238 of them being deaths). The casualties at Utah Beach were relatively light: 197, including 60 missing. However, the US 1st and 29th Divisions together suffered around 2000 casualties at Omaha Beach.

The total German casualties on D-Day are not known, but are estimated as being between 4000 and 9000 men.

Naval losses for June 1944 included 24 warships and 35 merchantmen or auxiliaries sunk, and a further 120 vessels damaged.

Over 425,000 Allied and German troops were killed, wounded or went missing during the Battle of Normandy. This figure includes over 209,000 Allied casualties, with nearly 37,000 dead amongst the ground forces and a further 16,714 deaths amongst the Allied air forces. Of the Allied casualties, 83,045 were from 21st Army Group (British, Canadian and Polish ground forces), 125,847 from the US ground forces. The losses of the German forces during the Battle of Normandy can only be estimated. Roughly 200,000 German troops were killed or wounded. The Allies also captured 200,000 prisoners of war (not included in the 425,000 total, above). During the fighting around the Falaise Pocket (August 1944) alone, the Germans suffered losses of around 90,000, including prisoners.

Today, twenty-seven war cemeteries hold the remains of over 110,000 dead from both sides: 77,866 German, 9386 American, 17,769 British, 5002 Canadian and 650 Poles.

Better late than never.

rogueteens 06-06-2010 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17223070)
Didn?t know that.

The History channel occasionally show some good stuff, if you can get past some of the crap US edutainment they show. Ome proggy was really good, in the 50's (i think it was the 50's) the UK government almost brought back conscription to get people working on the fields, they were that desperate for food and cash.

theking 06-06-2010 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17223053)
Why did it take you 5 years to join the party?

It didn't take five years...sport.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-06-2010 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Helix (Post 17223079)
Yes...the war that wouldn't have been won if thw US wasn't sending our young men to fight for your ground and our factories pumping armements out 24/7 to support the cause. Our entire country was dedicated to do our best to help win.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

WW2 began in 1939.
Soviets fought Nazi since 1941. By the time D-day happen Reds were taking over Poland and kicking German's ass all over Eastern front. Little bit of history for you, son.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-06-2010 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17223095)
It didn't take five years...sport.

Oh really?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II

World War II, or the Second World War[1] (often abbreviated WWII or WW2), was a global military conflict lasting from 1939 to 1945

theking 06-06-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17223056)
is that the war the usa joined near the end?

The U.S. did not join near the end of the war...but it did join near the end of Europe's fall.

MaDalton 06-06-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 17223043)
They were The Greatest Generation, no doubt.

Anybody in Europe want to add their thoughts, for what the day means to you?

i am happy about the liberation from hitler, i just wish it would have happened earlier and cost a few million lives less.

Sly 06-06-2010 05:38 PM

WW2 fights are always good.

Helix 06-06-2010 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17223098)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

WW2 began in 1939.
Soviets fought Nazi since 1941. By the time D-day happen Reds were taking over Poland and kicking German's ass all over Eastern front. Little bit of history for you, son.

yes...and the US enacted the draft bill in Sept. 1940

theking 06-06-2010 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17223098)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

WW2 began in 1939.
Soviets fought Nazi since 1941. By the time D-day happen Reds were taking over Poland and kicking German's ass all over Eastern front. Little bit of history for you, son.

Yes...the European war began in '39...the U.S. entered in '41...which is two years not five years...sport. The U.S. fought the Germans in Norh Africa...Sicily, and opened up the Italian front which was still being fought when D-Day took place and in fact was still being fought untill the Germans surrendered. A little hisory lesson for you kid...thank you very much.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-06-2010 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Helix (Post 17223112)
yes...and the US enacted the draft bill in Sept. 1940

I am sure knowing that really helped those who were fighting Nazis between '39 and '44

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-06-2010 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17223119)
Yes...the European war began in '39...the U.S. entered in '41...which is two years not five years...sport. The U.S. fought the Germans in Norh Africa...Sicily, and opened up the Italian front which was still being fought when D-Day took place and in fact was still being fought untill the Germans surrendered. A little hisory lesson for you kid...thank you very much.

Kinda like soviets fighting Japs in China?
You do realize the scale of WW2 in Europe and N. African campaign doesn’t even come close?

theking 06-06-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17223138)
Kinda like soviets fighting Japs in China?
You do realize the scale of WW2 in Europe and N. African campaign doesn?t even come close?

You left off two ohter major campaigns...sport...and the Soviets did not enter the war against Japan untill 8 August after the A bombs were dropped on Japan...try again sport.

Helix 06-06-2010 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17223121)
I am sure knowing that really helped those who were fighting Nazis between '39 and '44

Just wanted to keep the record straight.

Don't forget the Canadian effort. Over the course of the war, 1.1 million Canadians served in the Army, Navy, and Air Force. Of these more than 45,000 lost their lives and another 54,000 were wounded. Additionally, the Canadian Merchant Navy completed over 25,000 voyages across the Atlantic.Canadians also served in the militaries of various Allied countries.

By D-Day, June 6, 1944, the landings at Normandy were accomplished by two beachheads made by the American forces at Omaha and Utah, two by British forces, Sword and Gold, and the final was a Canadian effort at Juno with the 3rd Canadian Infantry Division penetrating farther into France than any other Allied force. After the Normandy landings a Canadian spearhead drove northeast into the Netherlands, where the Canadians liberated that nation.

Overload 06-06-2010 06:07 PM

i am german and happy the nazi regime failed :thumbsup

GatorB 06-06-2010 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17223053)
Why did it take you 5 years to join the party?

Are you stupid? WWII started in 1939. The USA entered the war in 1941. AFTER we were attacked. No reason to enter it before. You want to blame someon for Britian getting assfucked for those years blame Chamberlain for signing treaties with Hitler.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-06-2010 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17223146)
You left off two ohter major campaigns...sport...and the Soviets did not enter the war against Japan untill 8 August after the A bombs were dropped on Japan...try again sport.

That was my point. Clean up when its just about to be over.
D-day wasn't about fighting Nazis, it was about protecting Europe from communism.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-06-2010 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17223170)
Are you stupid? WWII started in 1939. The USA entered the war in 1941. AFTER we were attacked. No reason to enter it before. You want to blame someon for Britian getting assfucked for those years blame Chamberlain for signing treaties with Hitler.

We are talking about D-day and Europe. US waited until 1944. Doing it in 1941 would have helped a lot more.
Now turn off your internet connection and leave.

theking 06-06-2010 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17223171)
That was my point. Clean up when its just about to be over.
D-day wasn't about fighting Nazis, it was about protecting Europe from communism.

If you are saying the U.S. engaged in clean up...you are ignorant of events.

Helix 06-06-2010 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17223176)
We are talking about D-day and Europe. US waited until 1944. Doing it in 1941 would have helped a lot more.
Now turn off your internet connection and leave.

And the OP made the post to honor those that were at Normandy...salute the fallen and those that survived that day.

Grapesoda 06-06-2010 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17223056)
is that the war the usa joined near the end?

you mean the war the USA ended?

theking 06-06-2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17223176)
We are talking about D-day and Europe. US waited until 1944. Doing it in 1941 would have helped a lot more.
Now turn off your internet connection and leave.

The "Big Three"...Roosevelt...Churchill and Stalin all agreed in '43 on when the so called "Second Front"/D-Day would begin. The Soviets did not even take back the entirety of their country until after D-Day began.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-06-2010 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17223180)
If you are saying the U.S. engaged in clean up...you are ignorant of events.

By 1944 it was pretty much over. Nazi’s lost their Russian campaign and was getting their asses kicked on Eastern Front. No disrespect to those that fought but come on.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-06-2010 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17223200)
The "Big Three"...Roosevelt...Churchill and Stalin all agreed in '43 on when the so called "Second Front"/D-Day would begin. The Soviets did not even take back the entirety of their country until after D-Day began.

Oh, Im sorry. I was off my one month.
July 28th is when Soviets crossed in to german territory. My bad.

http://www.century-of-flight.net/Avi...2_timeline.htm

If it wan't for d-day they would have lost the war for sure.

The Demon 06-06-2010 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 17223043)
They were The Greatest Generation, no doubt.

Anybody in Europe want to add their thoughts, for what the day means to you?

I second this. Can't beat the generation of the 20s, 30s, 40s, and 50s. We're in the shittiest generation right now.

fris 06-06-2010 06:46 PM

wars are lame

theking 06-06-2010 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17223216)
Oh, Im sorry. I was off my one month.
July 28th is when Soviets crossed in to german territory. My bad.

http://www.century-of-flight.net/Avi...2_timeline.htm

If it wan't for d-day they would have lost the war for sure.

The U.S./Allies had entire German Armies tied down in Italy and France...for years...so the Soviets may very well have lost if these German Armies would have been free to engage them.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-06-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17223236)
The U.S./Allies had entire German Armies tied down in Italy and France so the Soviets may have very well lost if these German Armies would have been free to engage them.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Oh, I see. After 3 years of fighting Germans who got within 60 mile range of Moscow, Russians kick them all the way back to Germany and that’s when they suddenly have a change of heart and surrender so Germans can take over Soviet empire. Good one.

The German military suffered around 2,800,000 killed. Of these around 2,000,000 died on the Eastern Front, 300,000 died on other fronts, and 500,000 died in captivity.

theking 06-06-2010 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17223240)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Oh, I see. After 3 years of fighting Germans who got within 60 mile range of Moscow, Russians kick them all the way back to Germany and that?s when they suddenly have a change of heart and surrender so Germans can take over Soviet empire. Good one.

You really are not very bright...now are you sport? If the U.S./Allies did not have entire German Armies tied down...in North Africa...Sicily...Italy and France...a very high level of possibility exists that the Soviets would not have been able to take back their country from the Germans let alone push into Germany.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-06-2010 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17223246)
You really are not very bright...now are you sport? If the U.S./Allies did not have entire German Armies tied down...in North Africa...Sicily...Italy and France...a very high level of possibility exists that the Soviets would not have been able to take back their country from the Germans let alone push into Germany.

Romel had 150 000 people army in N. Africa during Desert Fox. Anywhere from 2.8 to 4 million Germans DIED in E. front.
Jesus, so many ignorant and arrogant idiots here.


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