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Sexsitesurfer 06-23-2010 08:09 AM

The adult business is in DANGER OF COLLAPSING, and not because of the crisis!!
 
Open letter to all producers and all affiliates of the adult business.

The ALARM bells are ringing



THE ADULT BUSINESS IS IN DANGER OF COLAPSING, THIS IS NOT BECAUSE OF THE CRISIS!



I am Denys Defrancesco the CEO of ddfprod.com. I am sounding the alarm bells before its too late, as in less than two years our businesses will be dead because of who? Because of what?

It is our fault, we have created the largest freely available pornographic content on the planet, so why pay to see our content?

For 12 years I have created promotion material there are free galleries, porn tubes, exchanging content with the 'share' sites , Google or Yahoo group etc. .. Due to our affiliates consumption who always demand more and more (we are currently killing the goose that lays golden egg ). By giving our surfers uncensored content we've created the largest free site of all time. Put end to end all the free sites of affiliates, all free galleries, all trailers? online, can you imagine the length of a film or style.



CHANGE YOUR HABITS IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO EARN YOUR LIFE IN THE ADULT INDUSTRY- AND MAKE MONEY AGAIN!



We could fix this with a little discipline, believe me, and start to censor your free galleries, restore the desire to see more by accessing the member?s area of your sites.

The golden age could return and there is enough space for everyone, lets clean up the Net together. I am aware that this will not happen overnight but I everybody?s responsibility to begin to censor their new galleries (put only soft content) and remove from your servers the old hardcore galleries, the affiliates must reduce their archives, BELIEVE me you will not lose your traffic, you'll just "boost" your income.



I await all your comments and suggestions.

Agent 488 06-23-2010 08:10 AM

not reading all that.

Hardcore J 06-23-2010 08:12 AM

What you say is true, but it will never happen.

Joshua G 06-23-2010 08:13 AM

so the problem is we market our product, & the solution is to pull back marketing to make money again.

mmmmmmmk....

Rankings 06-23-2010 08:15 AM

so if all tube sites charge memberships fees, would that solve the issue?

iwiiiiiiiiii 06-23-2010 08:15 AM

In fact, there's nothing new in what he said, and monopolizing every actor in the AB is a colossal work.

I cannot see how to tell an actor to play this game, if he will loose money by doing it.

sortie 06-23-2010 08:15 AM

Yey!! TGP II Rises again to do......nothing. :(

CaptainHowdy 06-23-2010 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17272505)
not reading all that.

It's not that much...

Barefootsies 06-23-2010 08:17 AM

Hi Deny. Nice to see you still around. Love your sites man. Keep up the good work. :thumbsup

Tell Raven I said hello.
:pimp

CaptainHowdy 06-23-2010 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexsitesurfer (Post 17272504)
lets clean up the Net together

Come again ??

Amputate Your Head 06-23-2010 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexsitesurfer (Post 17272504)
Open letter to all producers and all affiliates of the adult business.

The ALARM bells are ringing



THE ADULT BUSINESS IS IN DANGER OF COLAPSING, THIS IS NOT BECAUSE OF THE CRISIS!



I am Denys Defrancesco the CEO of ddfprod.com. I am sounding the alarm bells before its too late, as in less than two years our businesses will be dead because of who? Because of what?

It is our fault, we have created the largest freely available pornographic content on the planet, so why pay to see our content?

For 12 years I have created promotion material there are free galleries, porn tubes, exchanging content with the 'share' sites , Google or Yahoo group etc. .. Due to our affiliates consumption who always demand more and more (we are currently killing the goose that lays golden egg ). By giving our surfers uncensored content we've created the largest free site of all time. Put end to end all the free sites of affiliates, all free galleries, all trailers? online, can you imagine the length of a film or style.



CHANGE YOUR HABITS IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO EARN YOUR LIFE IN THE ADULT INDUSTRY- AND MAKE MONEY AGAIN!



We could fix this with a little discipline, believe me, and start to censor your free galleries, restore the desire to see more by accessing the member?s area of your sites.

The golden age could return and there is enough space for everyone, lets clean up the Net together. I am aware that this will not happen overnight but I everybody?s responsibility to begin to censor their new galleries (put only soft content) and remove from your servers the old hardcore galleries, the affiliates must reduce their archives, BELIEVE me you will not lose your traffic, you'll just "boost" your income.



I await all your comments and suggestions.

Good idea in theory, but you'll never get everyone to scale back and censor their hardcore. As soon as three people do it, a fourth sees striking opportunity and busts out the hardcore again to gain an edge. There's no way to get everyone to comply, and no way to enforce. :2 cents:

undersoul 06-23-2010 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17272505)
not reading all that.

That's not a lot to read. Considering you clicked on the thread. :winkwink:

Agreeing with it or not is another story.

slayer69 06-23-2010 08:23 AM

good night nurse

Forest 06-23-2010 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexsitesurfer (Post 17272504)

We could fix this with a little discipline, believe me, and start to censor your free galleries, restore the desire to see more by accessing the member?s area of your sites.

no offense but the genie is already out of the bottle. you will always have tubes and torrents and free porn available

and the above idea was tried and died

it was called tgp2

Tom_PM 06-23-2010 08:38 AM

I remember this thread from 'pond main board like 10 yrs ago. People made the same arguments. I mean EXACTLY the same.

1) if you try to prevent hardcore from getting out, someone else will come along and use it.

2) it's too late.

closer 06-23-2010 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17272528)
Good idea in theory, but you'll never get everyone to scale back and censor their hardcore. As soon as three people do it, a fourth sees striking opportunity and busts out the hardcore again to gain an edge. There's no way to get everyone to comply, and no way to enforce. :2 cents:

So basically, kill all affiliates and the free content will disappear automatically?
OR Make affiliate programs invite only

If you think about it, all tubes, tgps, torrent sites are living off such model
Only Rapidshare sites are not, so this type will remain a problem.

Kenny B! 06-23-2010 08:43 AM

As true as it might be it'll never happen unfortunately. Music and porn are things you don't need to pay for online but thankfully people will still spend money on both.

LickMyBalls 06-23-2010 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexsitesurfer (Post 17272504)
Open letter to all producers and all affiliates of the adult business.

The ALARM bells are ringing



THE ADULT BUSINESS IS IN DANGER OF COLAPSING, THIS IS NOT BECAUSE OF THE CRISIS!



I am Denys Defrancesco the CEO of ddfprod.com. I am sounding the alarm bells before its too late, as in less than two years our businesses will be dead because of who? Because of what?

It is our fault, we have created the largest freely available pornographic content on the planet, so why pay to see our content?

For 12 years I have created promotion material there are free galleries, porn tubes, exchanging content with the 'share' sites , Google or Yahoo group etc. .. Due to our affiliates consumption who always demand more and more (we are currently killing the goose that lays golden egg ). By giving our surfers uncensored content we've created the largest free site of all time. Put end to end all the free sites of affiliates, all free galleries, all trailers? online, can you imagine the length of a film or style.



CHANGE YOUR HABITS IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO EARN YOUR LIFE IN THE ADULT INDUSTRY- AND MAKE MONEY AGAIN!



We could fix this with a little discipline, believe me, and start to censor your free galleries, restore the desire to see more by accessing the member?s area of your sites.

The golden age could return and there is enough space for everyone, lets clean up the Net together. I am aware that this will not happen overnight but I everybody?s responsibility to begin to censor their new galleries (put only soft content) and remove from your servers the old hardcore galleries, the affiliates must reduce their archives, BELIEVE me you will not lose your traffic, you'll just "boost" your income.



I await all your comments and suggestions.

Sending emails to rapidshare isn't really a budget killer you know.

Axzar 06-23-2010 08:57 AM

Collusion is ideal, but impossible to enforce. Go smoke another joint and keep dreaming of Utopia.

L-Pink 06-23-2010 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 17272507)
so the problem is we market our product, & the solution is to pull back marketing to make money again.

mmmmmmmk....

Marketing ... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh good one!


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arock10 06-23-2010 09:23 AM

well no shit but a little late

Niktamer 06-23-2010 09:53 AM

pure utopia

Marcus Aurelius 06-23-2010 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17272505)
not reading all that.

Too bad. It's a good read and the man has a point.

Marcus Aurelius 06-23-2010 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by closer (Post 17272568)
So basically, kill all affiliates and the free content will disappear automatically?
OR Make affiliate programs invite only

No. Make your members area more secure/develop a new model.

Prevent content from leaking out.

VHNet 06-23-2010 10:02 AM

so is global warming still going to kill us all too?

Paul Markham 06-23-2010 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17272528)
Good idea in theory, but you'll never get everyone to scale back and censor their hardcore. As soon as three people do it, a fourth sees striking opportunity and busts out the hardcore again to gain an edge. There's no way to get everyone to comply, and no way to enforce. :2 cents:

Sadly you're right. There will always be people who give away all they can, to get affiliates to send traffic. What ever the ratio, they will just give away more to get more traffic that does not buy. And if they do, so will everyone else. Start a thread asking for 6 minute hosted Tube clips and see how many jump into line.

The industry will not recover after the recession. Most of those who stopped buying, will not come back.

The industry will not recover if by some act of God all pirated content is taken down. Some sponsors will supply what ever the big Tubes ask for.

The only way for the industry to recover is to win back customers. Mostly we sell a product, at a price, the customer rejects. All the talk about what the customer wants from sponsors and affiliates is BS. If it were true the customer would still be buying.

But what the heck this industry has been kidding itself for years even when it was obvious it could only survive if the customer had no options.

</rant>

Elli 06-23-2010 10:25 AM

Let's call it TGP2! It'll ROCK! Is everyone on board this time?

Seriously though, you've stated the problem very well. A solution we can all agree on remains to be found. :(

Tom_PM 06-23-2010 10:32 AM

Ugh, I remember tgp2. Honestly. A useless but well intentioned idea.

The ONLY viable way to ACTUALLY prevent content from getting out to people is to STOP SELLING OR GIVING IT TO ANYONE WITH A CREDIT CARD. hah. How hard was that?

Sometimes it doesnt matter if everyone agrees. People dont usually choose to regulate themselves strictly, do they?

seeandsee 06-23-2010 10:35 AM

it's black hole stadium now, and you can't prevent it, it will colapse

BestXXXPorn 06-23-2010 10:52 AM

The porn is already out there, it's too late to try and censor shit...

You have to follow the times... there are PLENTY of opportunities out there and PLENTY of ways to capitalize on the new pornscape...

This type of thing happens in just about every market in some way or another.

gleem 06-23-2010 11:12 AM

lol, if every person that read this post got rid of his bulk free content on all his sites, there would still be 99.5% of the free porn sites running the same amount of free shit.

If 900,000 of the porn sites went back to not showing pussy on free areas, the 900,001st would and they would get 90% of the porn traffic very quickly.

Adapt or die trying, cause trying to get people to pull down free content won't work at all.


p.s. the free porn has already killed the old days, there's no going back, and yes that was the problem.

SpongeBub 06-23-2010 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LickMyBalls (Post 17272586)
Sending emails to rapidshare isn't really a budget killer you know.

You are right, it is not, but it is a futile task. You may get one thing taken down but there are one thousand more to take its place. Deny is correct, only 10 years too late. Explicit TGPs started the downhill tumble but broadband and the rise of the fileshareing networks like Rapidshare, HotFile, etc were the nail in the coffin. And Tubes blew the coffin up entirely.

I find it ironic that for all their attempts, the religous right and the government won't be the ones that take down pornography. It will be porn itself, coupled with the insatiable appetite for free content that broadband and the tubes enables.

Shoplifter 06-23-2010 11:32 AM

I'll forward this to my competitor who is building a free site of some sort nearly every day.

quantum-x 06-23-2010 12:21 PM

Great idea! You start first.

kmanrox 06-23-2010 12:30 PM

i thought common sense went out the window when tgp2 was tested?

KillerK 06-23-2010 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 17273327)
i thought common sense went out the window when tgp2 was tested?

tgp2 worked well hit to profit wise.

TheDoc 06-23-2010 01:41 PM

Move your content/sales ability to various technologies and stay on new technology as it happens.... porn is every changing and every moving, it has always been that way.

Mobile is one example, already mobile porn can easily out sell the standard Internet porn sites and it's growing at a rates that exceed the original Internet growth. With only 5% of the traffic market, it's able to easily out produce the normal 'net sales - that's remarkable. Yes, that requires you actually sell the mobile porn to affiliates - something 99% of the companies don't actually do with the normal sites they have.

This doesn't mean ignore the normal Internet, we shouldn't ignore any medium we can cheaply move onto. But it does mean the business is changing again, much like it did in the mid 90's to the 2000 range - which killed most of the mainstream porn companies because they didn't move with the technology.

Of course they blamed piracy and free porn online back then too, people can get our stuff to easy, blah blah blah... suckers!

RyuLion 06-23-2010 01:46 PM

I don't know what you're talking about I'm still getting my affiliate checks, I just have to work harder at it.

Forest 06-23-2010 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 17273489)
tgp2 worked well hit to profit wise.

problem was it never even came close to getting 1% of the traffic tgps had

in theory it was a great idea. kinda like peace on earth

2012 06-23-2010 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 17273302)
Great idea! You start first.

http://ddfcash.com/PROMO/hlf/pics/060fjh_default6/


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