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Vendzilla 06-29-2010 10:05 AM

Message to OBAMA FROM ARIZONA GOVENOR JAN BREWER " THE NATION IS WAITING"
 
Anyone else see this? I'm just trying to remember when if ever anyone in politics has called out a president like this? This is like a bitch slap to Obamanation



Amputate Your Head 06-29-2010 10:08 AM

If there weren't signs, she'd be bitching because there were no signs.

Vendzilla 06-29-2010 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17288238)
If there weren't signs, she'd be bitching because there were no signs.

did you see how close to Phoenix these signs are? I'd be bitching too! I saw where the Obamanation is sending 500+ troops to the border, he promised 1200, and with the signs going up, he's saying there is a problem, just not his problem

Sly 06-29-2010 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17288251)
did you see how close to Phoenix these signs are? I'd be bitching too! I saw where the Obamanation is sending 500+ troops to the border, he promised 1200, and with the signs going up, he's saying there is a problem, just not his problem

It's 1200 for the entire border. When and where did he promise 1200 for Arizona?

Raf1 06-29-2010 10:25 AM

she seems like someone that would be pissed off if there wasn't a sign there too.

Vendzilla 06-29-2010 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17288261)
It's 1200 for the entire border. When and where did he promise 1200 for Arizona?

read it again, I never said Arizona for the troops, I said "BORDER"

Sly 06-29-2010 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17288307)
read it again, I never said Arizona for the troops, I said "BORDER"

Yes, and you also said he is only sending 500 and promised 1200. What was the purpose of that?

Tom_PM 06-29-2010 10:31 AM

I'm still waiting for Reagan, Clinton, Bush and Bush to fix it.

<-still waiting, but not on a bandwagon.

SykkBoy 06-29-2010 10:34 AM

I think all of the Arizonian illegals are coming into Nevada faster....they seemed to have doubled in numbers outside Star Nursery and Home Depot the last couple days...I better hurry and get my $20 yard crew before they are shipped back to Arizona...

Sly 06-29-2010 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17288323)
I'm still waiting for Reagan, Clinton, Bush and Bush to fix it.

<-still waiting, but not on a bandwagon.

The real culprit is politics in general, not any one President... like most of our problems now. Short-term thinking to keep people happy today so that any given politician can get reelected.

Man, people need to stop arguing and everyone just admit... yes, there is a problem. Let's fix it. It doesn't matter whose fault it is... the problem is still there. Let's fix it.

JustDaveXxx 06-29-2010 10:44 AM

Some good looking signs.:thumbsup

marketsmart 06-29-2010 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17288331)
The real culprit is politics in general, not any one President... like most of our problems now. Short-term thinking to keep people happy today so that any given politician can get reelected.

Man, people need to stop arguing and everyone just admit... yes, there is a problem. Let's fix it. It doesn't matter whose fault it is... the problem is still there. Let's fix it.


this is what i preach day in and day out...

congress loves it when people focus on blaming one person (the president)...

then they can rape and pillage unnoticed...

the problem is govt as a whole and until people figure that out there will be no changes.. :2 cents:






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Vendzilla 06-29-2010 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17288313)
Yes, and you also said he is only sending 500 and promised 1200. What was the purpose of that?

Um, because that's how many Obamanation is sending
http://blog.azbiz.com/?p=497
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17288331)
The real culprit is politics in general, not any one President... like most of our problems now. Short-term thinking to keep people happy today so that any given politician can get reelected.

Man, people need to stop arguing and everyone just admit... yes, there is a problem. Let's fix it. It doesn't matter whose fault it is... the problem is still there. Let's fix it.

I think that every president from the first bush on is to blame, but Obamanation is being called on it like no other and is ignoring it
Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17288382)
this is what i preach day in and day out...

congress loves it when people focus on blaming one person (the president)...

then they can rape and pillage unnoticed...

the problem is govt as a whole and until people figure that out there will be no changes.. :2 cents:






.

that's why Arizona passed this law. I feel that's the only way anything is going to get done, the people have to force the current and future administrations to do what needs to be done

Gouge 06-29-2010 11:01 AM

Jan Brewer :thumbsup

Sly 06-29-2010 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17288419)
Um, because that's how many Obamanation is sending
http://blog.azbiz.com/?p=497

"How many of the 1,200 National Guard troops promised to the border will make it to Arizona?s segment. Would you believe 524 (or 44 percent)? "

As I said. He promised 1200 for the border, he never promised 1200 for Arizona. He is sending 1200 to the border.

DaddyHalbucks 06-29-2010 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17288210)
Anyone else see this? I'm just trying to remember when if ever anyone in politics has called out a president like this? This is like a bitch slap to Obamanation



Good for her!

:thumbsup

crazytrini85 06-29-2010 11:25 AM

Obama will go down as one of, if not THE worst president in our times.

He will be remembered for:

- Oil leak
- Immigration / Border issues
- Horrible Economy
- Unemployment
- National Debt (more than all other presidents combined)
- A 2nd recession (coming soon)

Amputate Your Head 06-29-2010 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17288535)
Obama will go down as one of, if not THE worst president in our times.

He will be remembered for:

- Oil leak
- Immigration / Border issues
- Horrible Economy
- Unemployment
- National Debt (more than all other presidents combined)
- A 2nd recession (coming soon)

He's banking on history repeating itself. If things begin to turn around right near the end of this term, it will skyrocket his momentum for running for re-election. If not, then yeah, he's gonna go down with some baggage.

jimmy-3-way 06-29-2010 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17288210)
Anyone else see this? I'm just trying to remember when if ever anyone in politics has called out a president like this? This is like a bitch slap to Obamanation.

Wait a minute, so a shitty local politician is running against those fat cats in Washington from the opposite party?

Wow, this is amazing. Like the second American revolution!

This chick is the same dumbass who sold the Arizona capitol building to a a private investor and is renting it back to make up for budget shortfalls.

jimmy-3-way 06-29-2010 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17288251)
did you see how close to Phoenix these signs are? I'd be bitching too! I saw where the Obamanation is sending 500+ troops to the border, he promised 1200, and with the signs going up, he's saying there is a problem, just not his problem

Anyone who's grown up in Arizona or California has driven through a Border Patrol checkpoint 30-50 miles from the border for the last 20 years, this is nothing new it's just the only thing Republicans in Arizona can run on.

Which is ironic since their idol Reagan is the one who gave all the illegals amnesty and unleashed the flood anyway.

Vendzilla 06-29-2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17288472)
"How many of the 1,200 National Guard troops promised to the border will make it to Arizona?s segment. Would you believe 524 (or 44 percent)? "

As I said. He promised 1200 for the border, he never promised 1200 for Arizona. He is sending 1200 to the border.

I see what you're saying, but does it really matter? 524 troops for how many miles? Obamanation doesn't take this seriously does he?

One fucking Iranian soldier with a dirty nuke walking across our border, that's what scares me

Vendzilla 06-29-2010 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 17288600)
Anyone who's grown up in Arizona or California has driven through a Border Patrol checkpoint 30-50 miles from the border for the last 20 years, this is nothing new it's just the only thing Republicans in Arizona can run on.

Which is ironic since their idol Reagan is the one who gave all the illegals amnesty and unleashed the flood anyway.

Why do people blame past administrations for the fuck ups for Obamanation?
He's been in office for 18 fucking months, when does he take responsability for the office?
He said he was going to do something in the first year of office, remember that?

At least GW sent troops to the border, more than Obamanation promised

Although I love Reagan, that's something I didn't agree with, and I remember there were more illegals than they thought. And he made it illegal to hire an illegal alien.

I think they should stop letting people wire money to Mexico

HighEnergy 06-29-2010 11:55 AM

Not sure why they're waiting for 2 months.
The numbers,

"The federal government will deploy 524 National Guard troops to the Arizona-Mexico border by late August, according to representatives from President Barack Obama's administration.

The delegation met Monday morning with Democratic Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and Attorney General Terry Goddard in Tucson. During those meetings, the federal representatives also pledged $600 million in emergency funding to help with border-security issues.

According to Giffords office, an additional 250 troops will be sent to Texas, another 224 troops to California, and 72 to New Mexico. There will also be 130 personnel sent to a national liaison office in an undetermined location."


Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/electi...#ixzz0sGlQbeww

crazytrini85 06-29-2010 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17288554)
He's banking on history repeating itself. If things begin to turn around right near the end of this term, it will skyrocket his momentum for running for re-election. If not, then yeah, he's gonna go down with some baggage.

No question about it, if he makes miracles he will be the rock star everyone said he was and will breeze into a second term. I just don't think that's going to happen in time and the dems are going to lose a lot of seats here in a few months and NOTHING is going to get passed by Obama at that point. His time is almost up.

He has a few months to create miracles and try to pass every law he wants to pass. Otherwise he's screwed. I don't see how he is going to fix the economy or jobs in the next 2 years and I dont think our troops will be home either, as he said he would do. Gitmo won't be closed, the gulf will be a mess and he won't have much left to run on. I'll be surprised if the people fall for his smooth talking again. His walk does not match his talk and I think everyone is starting to see that.

I bet he is not only a 1 term president but he will go down as one of the worst. Be it his fault or not, the buck stops with him and ALL the blame will be dropped in his lap.

The sad thing is that whoever is next will just blame Obama, as Obama has blamed Bush and the cycle will continue.

kane 06-29-2010 12:46 PM

to me the main reason Obama has this on his shoulders is that he has promised immigration reform and has yet to deliver and doesn't seem like it is even on the table. If he came out and said, "Look, we are focusing on the economy and getting people back to work first, then we will work on immigration." I think people would be more open to him. Where he has troubles is that he hasn't delivered and given no signs of delivering and then when a state decides to act on their own he sues to stop them.

If you are going to tell someone they can't use their solution, you should have a solution they can use ready to go.

DG_Nick 06-29-2010 01:11 PM

Watch the video in HD, she is totally reading off of cue-cards; kinda lightens the impact for me.

theking 06-29-2010 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17288261)
It's 1200 for the entire border. When and where did he promise 1200 for Arizona?

He didn't. Arizona...Texas...California and I think New Mexico are going to get varying numbers of the deployment.

Robbie 06-29-2010 01:12 PM

I don't think there should be ANY troops on our borders or walls or any of that stupid Soviet Union Iron Curtain kind of bullshit.

Mexicans have crossed that border for centuries without causing any trouble.

The problem with violence down there is 10000% caused by OUR country and it's "War On Drugs" that makes it a gold mine to smuggle drugs into the U.S. Just like alcohol prohibition had the unintended consequence of causing so much gang violence...when prohibition was lifted, the violence stopped.

Anyway, with that said...the Governor of Arizona does have a point. I saw her on the news the day after she met with Obama. She said that day that he promised to get back with her in 2 weeks with a solid plan. She said that she was looking forward to it and was hopeful.

Looks like he never got back with her, and instead had those signs put up. Typical Washingon "do nothing" move.

That's why she's pissed.

If I were all of you, I'd be pissed that since the beginning of this country poor Mexican immigrants crossed our borders and harvested our vegetables and fruit. And now because of our governments INSISTENCE on controlling what you and I can use to party on a weekend...violence has erupted.

And in the end what will happen? They will put TROOPS on OUR border! And build a wall.

Wasn't it just 20 years ago that President Reagan stood in front of the Berlin Wall and demanded it be taken down? I spent my childhood of the 1960's and 1970's in school being taught that it was evil and that people with walls were NOT free!

So now it's all cool? And we build a wall but we are the "good guys"?

I'm sure the Soviets felt that way too.

Sly 06-29-2010 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17288892)
I don't think there should be ANY troops on our borders or walls or any of that stupid Soviet Union Iron Curtain kind of bullshit.

Mexicans have crossed that border for centuries without causing any trouble.

The problem with violence down there is 10000% caused by OUR country and it's "War On Drugs" that makes it a gold mine to smuggle drugs into the U.S. Just like alcohol prohibition had the unintended consequence of causing so much gang violence...when prohibition was lifted, the violence stopped.

Anyway, with that said...the Governor of Arizona does have a point. I saw her on the news the day after she met with Obama. She said that day that he promised to get back with her in 2 weeks with a solid plan. She said that she was looking forward to it and was hopeful.

Looks like he never got back with her, and instead had those signs put up. Typical Washingon "do nothing" move.

That's why she's pissed.

If I were all of you, I'd be pissed that since the beginning of this country poor Mexican immigrants crossed our borders and harvested our vegetables and fruit. And now because of our governments INSISTENCE on controlling what you and I can use to party on a weekend...violence has erupted.

And in the end what will happen? They will put TROOPS on OUR border! And build a wall.

Wasn't it just 20 years ago that President Reagan stood in front of the Berlin Wall and demanded it be taken down? I spent my childhood of the 1960's and 1970's in school being taught that it was evil and that people with walls were NOT free!

So now it's all cool? And we build a wall but we are the "good guys"?

I'm sure the Soviets felt that way too.

So Mexico is a corrupt, inefficient hellhole all because of the War on Drugs?

Robbie 06-29-2010 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17288900)
So Mexico is a corrupt, inefficient hellhole all because of the War on Drugs?

I love Mexico. Loved going down there to vacation. It's always been corrupt. But corruption didn't cause gangs to form with BILLIONS of dollars at stake.

THAT is the War On Drugs. It's making drug lords rich.

They WERE in Columbia. BUT, the good ol' USA threatened Columbia with sanctions if they didn't allow us to send TROOPS in there. So we did, and after a couple of bloody decades we got rid of the Columbian Cartels.

Which left a huge hole. The Mexicans are filling it. Now you have violence right on the Mexican border with the U.S.

What? Did you think that Mexicans just suddenly turned violent in the last couple of years for no reason? Or because their country has corrupt politicians? lol

My family (orange grove owners in Fla.) have hired immigrants to pick oranges for over 40 years. No violence. No problems. Efficient hard working people.

But when you make drugs illegal...and then you spend BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars to make it harder and harder to get them across the border? Well, you're just making it ever more profitable to get in the drug business. And that is what those young teenage boys in Mexico are doing by the droves.

But you're right...it's that corrupt hell hole Mexico's fault.

But wait...haven't they ALWAYS been a corrupt hell hole?

Yes.

But the violence started after the Columbian Cartels were broken up.

Nah, you're probably right. No connection there. They are probably creating all this violence over who gets to pick the beans and tomatoes in California this year. :1orglaugh

theking 06-29-2010 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17288892)
I don't think there should be ANY troops on our borders or walls or any of that stupid Soviet Union Iron Curtain kind of bullshit.

Mexicans have crossed that border for centuries without causing any trouble.

The problem with violence down there is 10000% caused by OUR country and it's "War On Drugs" that makes it a gold mine to smuggle drugs into the U.S. Just like alcohol prohibition had the unintended consequence of causing so much gang violence...when prohibition was lifted, the violence stopped.

Anyway, with that said...the Governor of Arizona does have a point. I saw her on the news the day after she met with Obama. She said that day that he promised to get back with her in 2 weeks with a solid plan. She said that she was looking forward to it and was hopeful.

Looks like he never got back with her, and instead had those signs put up. Typical Washingon "do nothing" move.

That's why she's pissed.

If I were all of you, I'd be pissed that since the beginning of this country poor Mexican immigrants crossed our borders and harvested our vegetables and fruit. And now because of our governments INSISTENCE on controlling what you and I can use to party on a weekend...violence has erupted.

And in the end what will happen? They will put TROOPS on OUR border! And build a wall.

Wasn't it just 20 years ago that President Reagan stood in front of the Berlin Wall and demanded it be taken down? I spent my childhood of the 1960's and 1970's in school being taught that it was evil and that people with walls were NOT free!

So now it's all cool? And we build a wall but we are the "good guys"?

I'm sure the Soviets felt that way too.

He did get back to her...I think it was a five man envoy that he sent to Arizona...and they met with the Governor within the last day or two. She was not pleased with the way the meeting went.

The Berlin wall was to keep people in...the "wall" along the border is to keep people out. Major difference.

Don Pueblo 06-29-2010 01:45 PM

that chicks voice makes my balls itch.

Tom_PM 06-29-2010 01:47 PM

Well it was just on the news this afternoon that he's sitting down for more immigration reform talks. It wont matter to critics obviously.

Robbie 06-29-2010 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17288965)
The Berlin wall was to keep people in...the "wall" along the border is to keep people out. Major difference.

Isn't that the same bullshit the Soviets were telling the East Germans?

There is NO difference. Either men are free to walk the Earth or they aren't.

My point originally is this: Nobody had a problem with Mexicans for over two hundred years. Our countries "big brother" insistence on trying to rule everybodies personal lives went into overdrive when Nixon started the "War On Drugs" in the early 1970's

After 40 years, what do we have to show for it? Drug use is higher (no pun intended) than ever. We IMPRISON more of our own citizens than ANY country in the world (including that evil North Korea and their buddy China). More lives and families have been completely destroyed by authorities imprisoning people for smoking pot and snorting coke than have ever been affected by actual drug addiction.

And we keep spending billions and billions of OUR money to throw OURSELVES in jail!

Stop the War On Drugs (or as it should be called: The Govt. Controlling Our Lives) and the violence on the Mexican border stops.

Once the violence stops, all the shouting about building walls stops. Mexican immigrants go back to doing all the jobs the nobody here can or will do.

This whole thing is ridiculous to me.

I can't understand why nobody seems to remember that NONE of this has been a problem for centuries. Until now.

Robbie 06-29-2010 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17288998)
I fail to see your comparison.

Yep, you and everybody else in the U.S.A. in the year 2010.

It's unreal to me.

Robbie 06-29-2010 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17288998)
WTS, when we get illegal immigrants (most are nice people) that are the bottom of the social cast.

I don't know about the "social cast"

But the Mexicans who harvest oranges every season in Fla. for my family make more money doing that than most of the people here on GFY who think they are webmasters. They are damn good and very efficient at harvesting.

cykoe6 06-29-2010 01:52 PM

It is good to see someone take a stand against Obama's dangerous and illegal open borders policies. :thumbsup

theking 06-29-2010 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17289001)
Isn't that the same bullshit the Soviets were telling the East Germans?

There is NO difference. Either men are free to walk the Earth or they aren't.

My point originally is this: Nobody had a problem with Mexicans for over two hundred years. Our countries "big brother" insistence on trying to rule everybodies personal lives went into overdrive when Nixon started the "War On Drugs" in the early 1970's

After 40 years, what do we have to show for it? Drug use is higher (no pun intended) than ever. We IMPRISON more of our own citizens than ANY country in the world (including that evil North Korea and their buddy China). More lives and families have been completely destroyed by authorities imprisoning people for smoking pot and snorting coke than have ever been affected by actual drug addiction.

And we keep spending billions and billions of OUR money to throw US in jail!

Stop the War On Drugs (or as it should be called: The Govt. Controlling Our Lives) and the violence on the Mexican border stops.

Once the violence stops, all the shouting about building walls stops. Mexican immigrants go back to doing all the jobs the nobody here can or will do.

This whole thing is ridiculous to me.

I can't understand why nobody seems to remember that NONE of this has been a problem for centuries. Until now.

I am not aware of any country on the earth that allows illegal entry into their country. Keeping people in and keeping people out are different...period.

The cost of the war on drugs along the border is insignifcant to the cost of services supplied to the illegal immigrants.

Don Pueblo 06-29-2010 01:59 PM

goddamn republicans. i think gideon is a republican too.

Semi-Retired-Dave 06-29-2010 01:59 PM

That will be the first and last time she interviews him.


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