Tomorrow 1.2 million will lose their unemployment benefits
 

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Best of luck to them.

ouch that will hurt

people are getting those irs papers now too. all the ones that went on payment plans that couldnt pay what they owe. that will hurt too.

Senator Bird was killed to prevent this bill from passing.

Kennedy and Byrd both managed to go when their party needed them most.

...after the U.S. Senate decided not to extend.....

lmfao. It was 100% of senate republicans who voted as a group (imagine that!) to not extend unemployment benefits. Again.

Best of luck to them. yea

poor Senator Bird:(

Been like that since Obama is in .... Gotta beat the black man , no matter what .:2 cents:

People should never have depended on government in the first place.

Their excuse now is that unemployment benefits, PROMOTES further unemployment.

Thats correct. According to senate republicans, if there were no unemployment benefits, there would be no unemployment.

Wouldn't it be better if they had jobs Mr President?

The problem with the bill is that they are sneaking in a bunch of other things as usual and calling it the unemployment bill, it's politics as usual

Some Republicans offered to support the unemployment bill if it was paid for with unspent money from last year's massive economic recovery package. Democrats rejected the offer, saying the money was needed for jobs programs. If the money is there for jobs programs, why aren't they spending it?

So don't go blaming the GOP, it's politics as usual

I think a plan that would work is hiring 50k out of work people to patrol the border, they can use their own guns, I would go for that! LMAO

Well, if there were no unemployment benefits people would save as much as possible while they had a job instead of living paycheck to paycheck.

They would also try harder to find a job if they were unemployed.

i have to agree. i know a few people that have been collecting unemployment for a while and doing some other job under the table

You agree that if there were no benefits, everyone would have jobs? I know you dont mean that. But they do.

All they're doing is giving democrats a gift come November.

Oh you hadn't heard?

I know 2 people that were put out of construction 2 years ago. Neither of them bothered to do shit, just collect their unemployment and do a few cash jobs on the side. Now they are bitching about what they are gonna do.

Well, fucking serves you right, neither of them bothered even looking for a job during the time they were collecting their gov checks. One guy fished every frickin day and slept to 1pm in the afternoon. I even emailed him some leads on jobs i knew of. His response was, I would only make an extra 150 bucks a week and I would actually have to work.

The system was abused.

Thanks, dick. Now that song is stuck in my head.

Oh and 1 more rant. My dad who is retired thought it would be fun to do the census because it wasnt a full time job. He is a crew leader here, says he works about 25-30 hours a week max. He had a meeting at the office a few weeks ago and according to him you are allowed to claim 3 hours of overtime every week. Surprise surprise, he said every crewleader time sheet he saw at the office was filled out for 43 hours. Said there was NO WAY it took them that long, more people just abusing the system.

so, based on 2 people you know, the whole system was abused?

While there is abuse in the system for sure, it's not rampant. I know personally of several who have been pounding the pavement every day, filling out apps, dropping off resumes, attending job fairs, etc. and with the unemployment rate here hitting 14%, jobs are getting and have been getting hard to come by.

I don't think everyone should be punished due to a couple who are abusing the system.

I dont think everyone should be punished either. I was simply stating that there is abuse that goes on and I personally think there is a lot more than people want to beleive. Let's face it, getting a check for 2 years is longer than it needs to be. If I had to I would work in a warehouse at night and drive pizzas during the day. Do whatever it takes to keep me and my family going. There are jobs out there, just shitty ones that people are unwilling to work.

How do you figure?
Democrats are in charge and most unemployed can't find a job.
Do you really think the GOP will stall this forever? doubt it. The democrats are using these extensions to cover up that there are no jobs. Remember that all this shit storm happened after 2006 with the democrats took control of the house and senate. And the unemployment rate has climbed since Obamanation took office and stayed there, while he claimed victory for job gains, when everyone knows they are all government jobs.
And it doesn't matter why, the only things voters are going to see is the results and they're not looking good.

Go ahead, keep blaming the GOP, they're not in charge.

well seeing as how government policy or lack thereof is a large reason why we are in the mess we are in, its really not right. of course benefits have to end sooner or later but what are they supposed to do now?

So they'll all go on welfare and then the taxpayer gets to pay for them anyway.

Most of those people have been collecting for years and had multiple extensions.

I know a few in this boat. But they've had plenty of time to find something else or come up with something new. One was doing something new WHILE collecting the unemployment checks.

Yes I DO believe that the GOP would stall this forever if they felt it to be politically helpful to themselves to do it! Absolutely I do! Thats my whole point. They do this for themselves, and come up with stupid bullshit excuses. They WANT unemployed people to get angry with the government, so that they will get voted into that very government. That is the "strategy" of voting as a group of "R" to defeat the extension of benefits. They know their base :) They know this will be easy to sell to them.

Democrats may be "in charge" as you put it, but it takes 60 votes and right now the minority are sticking together to defeat benefits for the unemployed. Congrats.

thats the stupidest thing i have ever heard.....without unemployment benefits that means people will be spending even less money ....i dont see how this is going to help the economy

The banks and brokerage houses abused the system but the American tax payers bailed them out.

Now, that is abuse of the system.

That's usually how it works. Quite a good way to manipulate the unemployment figures too.

And we never should have.

and besides whining in every thread about the same issues, what are you doing to improve the situation?

and, do you believe this is a democrat/republican problem or just a problem with a fucked up government in general?






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It is more than a couple, just check FB about people bragging about it, LOL.

But, as most things no one ever sees the Middle of the road, most people are for or against a program. Why not have a middle road, where the people who can Prove they are pounding the streets, and not being to picky on jobs and pay, then they should keep getting the benifits. This is exactly what the programs was intended to be used for, to get you by, when between jobs, as long as you are looking for a job full time.

As with anything one Bad apple spoils the bunch. I do believe with unemployment, there are Many Many people abusing the system, either not looking for jobs, or working under the table!

The Money being spent on Unemployment is cutting from other areas, leading to more people out of jobs.

Gonna happen sooner or later

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You obviously don't understand how unemployment insurance works. Every time you get a check a little is taken out in unemployment insurance. Technically your employer pays it but it's disingenuous to say that the employee doesn't pay for it because it results in lower wages due to payroll constraints. So even though a person might be on it for a year while he is unemployed the truth is he is just getting back some of the money he paid into the system. For most people we are talking about decades of paying in without getting anything back.

As for the people that say everyone is lazy and doesn't want a job wrap your head around this figure.

"there is one job open for every six people unemployed"

How the fuck are these people supposed to get jobs when there physically is not enough to go around? :Oh crap

We can not afford to keep paying people to not work. :2 cents: Six months is plenty of time to find an income.

I wonder how many people realize that unemployment taxes are going to start jumping to pay for all of this. Yes, it does suck for these people, I am not denying that. But everyone else is going to have to pay for this (and so much more) very soon.

How many more are going to be unemployed from this ripple effect?

Jobs are out there. They may not be ideal, I'm not saying they are. A lot of places are still hiring (yes, they are shit jobs, but it's money.) Enough with the pride, take some shit jobs and provide.

We need to get things moving again. Shit jobs or not. It needs to move.

It absolutely was. A total joke and abuse of the American taxpayer. Shameful.

We need to stop the cycle. What happened last year or the year before doesn't matter anymore. What happens tomorrow and next year does.

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Oh believe me I know how it unemployment works and where the initial benefit year's moneys come from. I worked many years in the public and private accounting sectors.

It has been my understanding the the extension moneys don't all come from this same pool that has been paid into the State Employment Security's funds. The Emergency Unemployment Compensation (EUC) pays up to 53 additional weeks and is Federal Funded. The state extended benefits (EB) are up to an additional 20 weeks and comes from the states though subsidized by the government and is only available in states which the US Dept of Labor and Industries have determined to have a high rate of unemployment.

I was not referring to the initial unemployment compensation payments which come from funds paid into by employers but rather the weeks of extensions.