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Argos88 07-24-2010 11:40 AM

Any CCBILL sponsors that DO NOT SELL their shit in members areas?
 
Are there any CCBILL sponsors that do not resell their own services or products in the PAYSITE members areas and STEAL our HARD EARNED Surfers from rebilling?

Anyone? That does not resell WEBCAMS/ESCORT SERVICES, penis pills, or any shit in their members areas and STEAL OUR Hard earned surfers?

REBILLS with those programs SUCK...

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PGR 07-24-2010 11:59 AM

Sponsors are looking to maximize profits as much as affiliates, so you can't really blame them for upselling. My suggestion for you would be to start your own paysite(s) and funnel your traffic to those. I believe it's fairly cheap to get a CCBILL site up and running these days. And content has never been cheaper.

DVTimes 07-24-2010 12:06 PM

i do not.

www.mrban.com

Jakez 07-24-2010 01:57 PM

LOL :jerkoff:sleep

mc-nudes 07-24-2010 01:58 PM

MC-NUDES.COM - clean members area here !

Gerco 07-24-2010 01:58 PM

I sell nothing in my members area. No links to up sells either.

crazytrini85 07-24-2010 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 17360171)
Are there any CCBILL sponsors that do not resell their own services or products in the PAYSITE members areas and STEAL our HARD EARNED Surfers from rebilling?

Anyone? That does not resell WEBCAMS/ESCORT SERVICES, penis pills, or any shit in their members areas and STEAL OUR Hard earned surfers?

Retard.

You want 50 or 70 percent of the sale maybe more if a webmaster referred you and that leaves the company with say 20 - 40% and they have to pay for hosting, advertising, staff, new content, updates and lord knows what else. Stingy fuck. They do this to offset the costs of paying idiots like you too much. :2 cents:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 17360171)

REBILLS with those programs SUCK...

Having upsales have nothing to do if someone rebills or not. If they dont rebill it is because they have had enough or the sites content sucks. Having banners have nothing to do with it.

scottybuzz 07-24-2010 02:35 PM

http://www.foxypass.com <<< no upsells no cross sales.

GregE 07-24-2010 02:46 PM

http://bunbeatingfun.com <--- Clean as a whistle here :)

No x sales, no upsells and 100% exclusive.

Klen 07-24-2010 02:55 PM

Most of paysites have it so no point to bother with it.But in some cases is disturbing like paysite from paperstreetcash where they have banner to brazzers.

stocktrader23 07-24-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17360468)
Retard.

You want 50 or 70 percent of the sale maybe more if a webmaster referred you and that leaves the company with say 20 - 40% and they have to pay for hosting, advertising, staff, new content, updates and lord knows what else. Stingy fuck. They do this to offset the costs of paying idiots like you too much. :2 cents:




Having upsales have nothing to do if someone rebills or not. If they dont rebill it is because they have had enough or the sites content sucks. Having banners have nothing to do with it.

20 - 40% is plenty in bulk. Sponsors could pay out 100% of revenue generated by affiliates and still come out ahead without cross sales and other garbage.

crazytrini85 07-24-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17360549)
20 - 40% is plenty in bulk. Sponsors could pay out 100% of revenue generated by affiliates and still come out ahead without cross sales and other garbage.

On revshare? No way.

You can do soft upsells with out being intrusive and bothering the member.

ruff 07-24-2010 03:17 PM

My Aggressive Pass network is clean.

BV 07-24-2010 03:39 PM

No cross sales, no up sells, no outside links, nothing, nada, anywhere, inside or out, period.

icymelon 07-24-2010 03:48 PM

thats the most valuable real estate in the industry. it would be foolish to not upsell in the members area

BV 07-24-2010 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by icymelon (Post 17360616)
thats the most valuable real estate in the industry. it would be foolish to not upsell in the members area

That's why Chevrolet dealerships have Ford posters in their showrooms right?

stocktrader23 07-24-2010 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17360558)
On revshare? No way.

You can do soft upsells with out being intrusive and bothering the member.

Yes, since an epic shit ton of sales come in because of affiliates that aren't credited to affiliates. Decent sized programs make millions a year on 'lost' referrals of some kind. Paying 100% of profit is well worth it if you can swing the initial outlay which is fuck all these days.

andrej_NDC 07-24-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BV (Post 17360604)
No cross sales, no up sells, no outside links, nothing, nada, anywhere, inside or out, period.

You make it sound like its a smart thing. Cross sales have no impact on ratios and upsells have no impact on rebills, they just make more money. I tried both, on lots of sales, no difference, so doing it without is like saying no to free money. And that isn't smart.

andrej_NDC 07-24-2010 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BV (Post 17360620)
That's why Chevrolet dealerships have Ford posters in their showrooms right?

They would have if they made provision on those bonus sales.

Chosen 07-24-2010 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icymelon (Post 17360616)
thats the most valuable real estate in the industry. it would be foolish to not upsell in the members area

:2 cents:

stocktrader23 07-24-2010 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 17360671)
You make it sound like its a smart thing. Cross sales have no impact on ratios and upsells have no impact on rebills, they just make more money. I tried both, on lots of sales, no difference, so doing it without is like saying no to free money. And that isn't smart.

I know more than one person that will pay for porn but will not hit submit if there is a cross sale anywhere. It might not affect you much but I would bet your affiliates don't feel the same way.

The Porn Nerd 07-24-2010 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 17360171)
Are there any CCBILL sponsors that do not resell their own services or products in the PAYSITE members areas and STEAL our HARD EARNED Surfers from rebilling?

Anyone? That does not resell WEBCAMS/ESCORT SERVICES, penis pills, or any shit in their members areas and STEAL OUR Hard earned surfers?

REBILLS with those programs SUCK...

.

There are absolutely ZERO upsells, cross-sells, or ANY kinda "selling" that occurs within the Member's Areas of Mister Peabody World, a CCBill affiliate program (PeabodyCash, please see sig).

We don't need 'em, we don't want 'em, and we won't work with anyone who does. Period. Average rebill: 5 months.
Now start promotin' - GO!

XXXMovie4M 07-24-2010 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 17360171)
Are there any CCBILL sponsors that do not resell their own services or products in the PAYSITE members areas and STEAL our HARD EARNED Surfers from rebilling?

Anyone? That does not resell WEBCAMS/ESCORT SERVICES, penis pills, or any shit in their members areas and STEAL OUR Hard earned surfers?

REBILLS with those programs SUCK...

.

are you willing to promote my site exclusively and no other site? i don't want other sponsors STEALING your time from me. affiliates that promote more than one site SUCK...

XXXMovie4M 07-24-2010 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 17360620)
That's why Chevrolet dealerships have Ford posters in their showrooms right?

try to find a dealership that doesn't try to up-sell the extended warranty, paint protection, service plans, and all kinds of other crap....

good luck with that analogy!

XXXMovie4M 07-24-2010 05:09 PM

this is the fundamental problem with porn...it's full of idiots. tubes aren't killing porn, the idiots are!!!

sortie 07-24-2010 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 17360620)
That's why Chevrolet dealerships have Ford posters in their showrooms right?

No, but.......

I sold cars for Chevy at one time in my life.

We had the Corvettes in the showroom, not on the outside.
If you came in looking for a Camaro, I'd try to bump you up to a vet.

If you came in looking for a vet, I'd try to bump you to the ZR1 :

http://www.chevrolet.com/vehicles/20...r1/overview.do

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

stocktrader23 07-24-2010 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXMovie4M (Post 17360701)
are you willing to promote my site exclusively and no other site? i don't want other sponsors STEALING your time from me. affiliates that promote more than one site SUCK...

This statement is so absurdly fucking stupid that nobody should ever do business with you. You have no concept of the argument at hand and your retarded attempt at proving a point has failed horribly.

stocktrader23 07-24-2010 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXMovie4M (Post 17360707)
this is the fundamental problem with porn...it's full of idiots. tubes aren't killing porn, the idiots are!!!

You are right about the idiots, you just haven't realized that you are them.

NaughtyRob 07-24-2010 05:57 PM

We don't. Go ahead and sign up, traffic with us is safe.

BV 07-24-2010 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie (Post 17360719)
No, but.......

I sold cars for Chevy at one time in my life.

We had the Corvettes in the showroom, not on the outside.
If you came in looking for a Camaro, I'd try to bump you up to a vet.

If you came in looking for a vet, I'd try to bump you to the ZR1 :

http://www.chevrolet.com/vehicles/20...r1/overview.do

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I worked for a Chevrolet dealership also, and after I sold them a unit I never tried to send them to a Ford dealership to buy another unit.

I wanted them to stay with me and when it came time for the customer to buy again I wanted him to come back to me.

BV 07-24-2010 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXMovie4M (Post 17360705)
try to find a dealership that doesn't try to up-sell the extended warranty, paint protection, service plans, and all kinds of other crap....

good luck with that analogy!


that's not the same thing and you know it

Shoplifter 07-24-2010 07:29 PM

Nothing in our member's area.

BV 07-24-2010 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 17360671)
You make it sound like its a smart thing. Cross sales have no impact on ratios and upsells have no impact on rebills, they just make more money. I tried both, on lots of sales, no difference, so doing it without is like saying no to free money. And that isn't smart.

Unfortunately in todays world you not only have to sell the customer but you also have to sell the affiliate.

My affiliates don't have to worry about any traffic leaks.

Most affiliates feel way more comfortable sending their traffic to a sponsor with no leaks.

Again we are talking revshare.

So you might make more per membership with upsells. But I might attract more affiliates/traffic and make more memberships by not having leaks.

Either way I really don't believe what you say and I think your full of shit.

All I hear you talk about lately is how great you are and how you are making more money now in todays market than you ever have in years past.

I think that's a crock of shit. :2 cents:

stocktrader23 07-24-2010 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 17360858)
I think that's a crock of shit. :2 cents:

Don't we all. :1orglaugh

crazytrini85 07-25-2010 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXMovie4M (Post 17360707)
this is the fundamental problem with porn...it's full of idiots. tubes aren't killing porn, the idiots are!!!

:2 cents::thumbsup

A banner here or there or a link to webcams is not a big deal. An "upsell" is a choice, it's not forcing them.

You guys are missing out on free money. It doesn't bother you members so long as you dont blast them with crap. A soft sell is all you need. 1 - 2 banners that are relevant to your site.

Given the current times, I want to come back and see how many are still in business from this thread, in 18 months.

andrej_NDC 07-25-2010 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV (Post 17360858)
All I hear you talk about lately is how great you are and how you are making more money now in todays market than you ever have in years past.

I think that's a crock of shit. :2 cents:

I don't think I'm great, but I always tried more things to compare, I don't talk about stuff I never tested in real life. How can you say cross sales are bad if you didn't use them? You can't.

And yes, I make more nowadays, I don't understand how its possible, too. Probably because of lower costs, hosting is almost free nowadays, traffic on some sites is much cheaper than it used to be, too. Fewer people in adult make it easier to make more money.

boneless 07-25-2010 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXMovie4M (Post 17360701)
are you willing to promote my site exclusively and no other site? i don't want other sponsors STEALING your time from me. affiliates that promote more than one site SUCK...

:thumbsup

seeandsee 07-25-2010 08:51 AM

Give me 50% on sale, rebill and 20% on member area upsels, and i am ok with that :)

crazytrini85 07-25-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 17361598)
Give me 50% on sale, rebill and 20% on member area upsells, and i am ok with that :)

Deal.

But will you pay 3% of my staff and general business overhead every month?

If you are willing, so am I.

stocktrader23 07-25-2010 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17361111)
:2 cents::thumbsup

A banner here or there or a link to webcams is not a big deal. An "upsell" is a choice, it's not forcing them.

You guys are missing out on free money. It doesn't bother you members so long as you dont blast them with crap. A soft sell is all you need. 1 - 2 banners that are relevant to your site.

Given the current times, I want to come back and see how many are still in business from this thread, in 18 months.

This doesn't change the fact that it's retarded as hell to send your customers to a competitor across the street. I'd love to see this in real life though.

"Thanks for buying your sandwich, did you know you can but more sandwiches right over there? They're really good sandwiches so you should check it out! Never mind that you might like that sandwich better or buy one of their bagels while you are over there. Surely you have unlimited money to spend on sandwiches and you shopping there will not cost me anything!"

:1orglaugh

Fuck you assholes are even more retarded than I remembered.


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