New affiliates required to provide screenshots of earnings from other programs?
 

I just signed up for a new program and they require a screen shot of my earnings and stats from at least 2 other programs. Is this normal? or have I just been with the same ole' programs for too long to know whats up?

A general referral should be fine, I see no need to require or share stats unless they are trying to remain semi-"exclusive".

who is it? post a screenshot.

sounds like gossip kings.

cheap screenshoots with earnings for sale, hit me up

:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh that's awesome.

I am going to start charging monthly to be an affiliate of my program.

Interesting development. I wonder if this will become industry standard.

http://www.highrevenue.com

You better fulfil their demands or you will regret it.

Tell them to fuck off.

Lol, few day ago boyprofits want my stats ,earnings and traffic sources information when i tried to signup

Maybe they're trying to weed out people who just sign up and never promote or will flood the Net with free content. Maybe they have enough affiliates and don't see more really effecting their bottom line.

It's their program and they are able to run it as they please.

A name would help so people know who you're talking about.

Is it amakings?

I dont mind them getting screens from other programs i promote.

I assume its because those programs are still paying PPS, and they want to make sure the traffic is quality and rebilling.

Of all affiliates who signup to a general program, only a rough 10% actively promote the program and only 20% of them are really converting. If the program offers hosted banners/galleries/flvs then it is a sane step to weed out the losers and keep your "free content" tracked as much as possible.

Usually just requesting the urls of sites where the affiliate will promote them would suffice, and include in the TOS that afiliates are not allowed to promote the program on urls not reported to the program.

It's weird on one hand, but logical on the other.

Sorry everyone, it's Amakings. I'll send them what they need, just seems odd imo

Yeah thought so. Well i can vouch for them.

I think we will see more programs asking for this and to be honest i like it. Weed out the bad sites is more costeffective for them, and if they want to stay up and have pps you cant blame them either.

I dunno, I tried signing up for amakings and once I found out all that was required I said fuck it and chose another program to promote. A program that I could sign up for and start promoting 5 minutes later without having to do anything extra. I understand they're free to run their program how they want to but for me..I just get a little annoyed when I want to make some more money AND at the same time help the program by sending them more memberships...and then have to go through a bunch of crap just to sign up.

If I was running my own affiliate program, I'd want every one to sign up because every little bit helps and I wouldn't mind dealing with the bullshit affiliates IF it came to that.

How about for every new sponsor us affiliates signup for...we request screen shots of checks, epassporte receipts, etc that proves they actually pay out? That seems fair.

hmm never heard of programs wanting that before. with higher & higher levels of aff. fraud these days can't say I'm surprised.

I've asked people for a references before, but stats... that's a new one. I would only give up that info if the site/product being promoted was simply too awesome to pass up. So in most cases, it wouldn't happen.

I have an account on lots of programs, most nats programs. I've been denied into programs because I put my webmaster blog into the site field and not a site with porn on it. Even after explaining the site was a resource site, most still denied me. I don't really try with people like that though, no reason to promote an idiot.

The aff fraud has been getting more out of control though... I expect more programs directly contacting and interacting with new affiliates in the coming years, references, stats, something to prove they are real or those programs wont be able to survive the onslaught of fraud. Still lots of ways programs can do this, without taking the stats direction at first.

marc womack is just looking out

I use FF for screenshots and the whole things is done in 5 minutes and I go back to making money.

Screen shots or it never happened. :1orglaugh
J/K, no, this is not normal. I would never ask anyone for that info.

Remember back when you had to maintain a ratio? History is repeating itself.

Outside of PPC?

gossip kings is one of them, i asked wtf, they told me they are doing it to stay alive and to have only quality affiliates, i told them fuck off

The Fraud is just to high. I bet more programs will close themselves off from new affiliates in the near future.

Good idea!!

it sounds like amakings i told them to fuck off as well.

i spotted that on gossip kings.

i could not be bothered.

i see the logic but i also do not think its that clever.

to be honest i am not sure how honest it is to email people info of what business you do with others. can you imagine asking your bank to provide bank details of two of there clients????

there are plenty of stat screenshots around here you can grab. not a big deal.

Not a bad idea.

:1orglaugh

Fuck that.

Sorry if you have doubts how about you call me up on the phone and talk to me for five minutes? It can't take any more time than this sort of thing would waste for the both of us. How many scammers will be able to bullshit their way through a five minute phone call?

Besides for all the affiliate fraud there is what about sponsor fraud -- particularly sponsors closing up and leaving affiliates high and dry without paying out their earnings and stealing rebills? It goes both ways.

The fraud comes from South east Asia and the old soviet bloc, where the webmasters can't or hardly speak English. That's where calling them doesn't work.

When those sponsors, the guys who have left, and stoped the $100 PPS, the fraud moved to revshare programs like us.

I'm an American webmaster and have been in the industry over a decade. I'm not sending screenshots of my stats with other sponsors unless you're sending me screenshots of your bank records. If there's a problem with fraud from certain countries then limit the measures to those nations. I'll gladly talk on the phone or ICQ however. No problem there.

Maybe they DON'T want you to agree to send a screenshot. Seems to me, a lot of legit webmasters would tell them to fuck off. A scammer would go make a screenshot.

Sort of like the gun law here. A legit guy will apply, wait his time, get a gun. A felon will just go buy one on the street. Law is totally worthless.

We are going to be asking for DNA, fingerprints, and we'll run a credit check before letting you fill out our form.

if they are asking for screen shots you are asking for something that costs em money

Reasonable.

I hear ya! Fraud is really bad these days. Programs are trying to stop it any way they can.