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mamaliga 03-01-2012 03:41 AM

hows your site/s going?

thmvp20 03-01-2012 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mamaliga (Post 18791224)
hows your site/s going?

Wow. I am surprised and even a little flattered to see my post from May 2011 resurface in Feb 2012.

I guess it would be pretty cool to add a little update now. First of all, this IS the thread that got me started in the right direction. I think I wrote the original post in my second month, and before that I had been doing everything wrong and wasting time and money in the process. And then I had a lucky break because I wrote this post expecting nothing in return, but Adraco was generous enough to offer up some excellent advice. And the best thing I took from that advice went something along the lines of "Get yourself a bucket of patience and don't expect anything at all during the first six months".

Because I know for a fact if I had not read that bit of advice, I would have given up long ago, maybe after the fourth month when my income was still $0 and I was putting in a lot of work.

But I kept this "6 month rule" in the back of my mind and built two networks that were based on my interests and I had a "December to remember" and by this time I had officially attained my original goal which was to make enough earnings to pay off my student loans without it coming out of income from my unrelated full-time job.

Between September and December, each month was better than the last, but then in January 2012 the pattern finally died down and I was back to researching and trying out different strategies and ideas, which is where I am now.

So while I didn't get rich overnight or anything like that, I can still say with full confidence that there is money here... I made money doing this, enough to attain my first goal and realize there is always potential for more. It starts with some good advice, good resources (like Gfy), and with good organization (especially if you're flying solo) and structured approach.

Adraco 03-04-2012 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thmvp20 (Post 18794466)
Wow. I am surprised and even a little flattered to see my post from May 2011 resurface in Feb 2012.

I guess it would be pretty cool to add a little update now. First of all, this IS the thread that got me started in the right direction. I think I wrote the original post in my second month, and before that I had been doing everything wrong and wasting time and money in the process. And then I had a lucky break because I wrote this post expecting nothing in return, but Adraco was generous enough to offer up some excellent advice. And the best thing I took from that advice went something along the lines of "Get yourself a bucket of patience and don't expect anything at all during the first six months".

Because I know for a fact if I had not read that bit of advice, I would have given up long ago, maybe after the fourth month when my income was still $0 and I was putting in a lot of work.

But I kept this "6 month rule" in the back of my mind and built two networks that were based on my interests and I had a "December to remember" and by this time I had officially attained my original goal which was to make enough earnings to pay off my student loans without it coming out of income from my unrelated full-time job.

Between September and December, each month was better than the last, but then in January 2012 the pattern finally died down and I was back to researching and trying out different strategies and ideas, which is where I am now.

So while I didn't get rich overnight or anything like that, I can still say with full confidence that there is money here... I made money doing this, enough to attain my first goal and realize there is always potential for more. It starts with some good advice, good resources (like Gfy), and with good organization (especially if you're flying solo) and structured approach.

Glad to hear about your progress! :thumbsup What a difference since you were just getting started back then. Good luck and as always, feel free to hit me up!

UpnCummer 04-13-2012 02:10 AM

Great stuff in these posts, thanks a lot guys, specially Adraco. There are so many things that experienced webmasters just take for granted and lots of us noobs just don't even imagine. Most are jealous of their knowledge and won't share, but it's great that there are some (very few) people who are out here to share their knowledge and just be nice and share, there's money and opportunity for everyone and people still doesn't understand that if you're doing well and share and those with whom you shared do well too, it'll just bring you more in return!

But, ah, well, just my noob hippie ramblings, lol.

Nah, seriously, thankyou!

Kostly 04-14-2012 08:29 AM

Yea, this has allot of great info. I should really start to blog about my experience in the adult industry. It would provide a great source for a second site.

hale.pane 04-16-2012 03:20 PM

Thanks for the AWESOME tips.

JC01 04-24-2012 01:02 AM

Great tips Adraco, thanks for sharing

AliceInBondageLand 04-28-2012 10:16 AM

What a great thread. Thanks for sharing your experience folks.

I have a question about blogging - my website is VERY word heavy, since I am aiming for the "hot for smart girls" market as well as trying to stand out in a novel way.

If I reblog these posts, will that reduce my standing with google because of "uniqueness"?

I have heard that having the same text multiple places causes Google to devalue it.

Adraco 05-08-2012 07:35 AM

Glad you guys are still enjoying those tips I wrote about a year ago. But most of them are still valid today and they most certainly work. So feel free to continue hitting me up with questions and concerns and I'll try to help out and look into stuff for you.

Adraco 06-25-2012 03:36 PM

By popular request and people contacting me on ICQ to ask where this thread went, I'm bumping it up a bit to let more people see and find it.

Adraco 08-14-2012 02:14 AM

Now more than ten people have hit me up about this thread saying they can't find it, so here it is again.

Zeiss 08-14-2012 02:35 AM

The idea about making more sites is good but once they become a large number, you are like glued to the laptop or mobile to manage them, so be careful what you create. lol

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Alice
 
Rewrite your content use different synonyms. Maybe switch the point of view a bit. I expect from reading your posts that writing comes fairly easy for you

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliceInBondageLand (Post 18913844)
What a great thread. Thanks for sharing your experience folks.

I have a question about blogging - my website is VERY word heavy, since I am aiming for the "hot for smart girls" market as well as trying to stand out in a novel way.

If I reblog these posts, will that reduce my standing with google because of "uniqueness"?

I have heard that having the same text multiple places causes Google to devalue it.


assboobspussy 08-16-2012 10:26 PM

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if you are not satisfied with the answers you are getting, you could search in the search box. this site is like a huge library, almost every information you need is located here somewhere

thmvp20 08-28-2012 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by assboobspussy (Post 19130156)
welcome to the team. wish you good luck.
if you are not satisfied with the answers you are getting, you could search in the search box. this site is like a huge library, almost every information you need is located here somewhere

Why thank you... But I just wanna point out that I have been around for 1 year and 3 months now ;) and I am a little more rich than I was back then. In part thanks to Adraco. Always cool to see this post re-surface

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexvideosex (Post 19119329)
The idea about making more sites is good but once they become a large number, you are like glued to the laptop or mobile to manage them, so be careful what you create. lol

100% true. Good newbie advice right there as well... Think carefully about the niche you go with too before you launch several sites. It seems a lot of people (including myself) started in a niche where they never stood a chance.

Dating Port 09-03-2012 07:22 AM

This truly is a great thread and thanks for bumping it. I'm seeing it for the first time :)

Adraco 11-22-2012 03:38 PM

Allright, bumping this one by popular request, yet again!

Thanks for all the comments and question guys!

Adraco 03-30-2013 02:20 PM

Here you go guys, thanks for remembering this thread and for asking about it again and again.

slowmo 03-31-2013 12:07 PM

welcome to the board. <--thats for me :p

@adraco. ure fking awesome

RomanceNspice 03-31-2013 12:11 PM

Glad this post popped up...alot of great info! Thanks all! :thumbsup

Adraco 01-15-2014 09:44 PM

And by popular request, here is the thread once again, thanks for reading and commenting guys. :)

nitrofein 01-15-2014 10:19 PM

First of all a huge thank you to the forum and all contributing members to GFY, specially Adraco. I am new to the business and I have been working on creating content for several months now and am now working on marketing. I may have done the process backwards but none the less that's where I am.

I would appreciate it if anyone could chime in on how the methods Adraco laid out are still relevant to building and marketing a porn business in 2014. Any specifics on what your investing your time and money into are welcome.

-nitrofein

armysmoke 01-17-2014 05:49 AM

Adraco - Wow, this is some great advice!

BoobAssLover 01-17-2014 12:41 PM

Adraco, you're a rocker, man. Thanks for the bump.

Just a friendly advice though to the newbies:
From my experience work on one to 2 sites to develop them at their best. Too much of anything do cause problem, in this case, it's their maintenance time.

Thien425 01-19-2014 03:03 PM

I have been thinking about getting back into porn. Does this method still work? Is it worth it to start a porn blog these days?

Best-In-BC 01-19-2014 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooldude7 (Post 18120068)
just create more and more sites and dont stop.,

if ur one site makes 10 bucks /month ,,, then u know how many u gotta start more.,
do trafic trading, some SEO., hardlink trades.
.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

TheMonger 01-20-2014 06:18 PM

Subscribed. Great info.

thmvp20 01-21-2014 04:06 PM

I can't believe I'm seeing this on the first page.

If anyone cares how is the OP doing...

I've got a forum with 5000 real members today.

(Even though I only get about 2 hours to work on anything outside of my FT job)

"Work smart and don't give up"

Mediamix 01-22-2014 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adraco (Post 18121547)
Allright

1. A few backlinks are important! Get a paid godaddy hosting and one from hostgator, be sure to get their cheap ones. Then add five domains to each, install a wordpress blog on each domain and post at least 10 posts with a minimum of 5 full sentences on each post, link all these five domains together and also link from each domain to your top site. For each pack of five blogs, use similar or the same anchor text, like "big tits". That should get you noted by the search engines. Also, if possible, deeplink from your blog post directly to a part of your topsite. Like if you have a blog post of Hanna Hilton, then link from that post to a part of your top site like /hannahilton or /blondes or /bigtits or what ever categories you now may have.

2. Buy a few hardlinks from people. The price is hard to tell, because it depends on so many factors, but just read other's posts and see what they will sell and don't go for the absolutely cheapest stuff. Aim to buy maybe 5-10 links your first year.

3. Don't waste your money buying traffic to just throw it at the site. Save your cash and use it for the two above mentioned hosting accounts and to buy a few links.

4. Get yourself a bucket of patience, it will take some time for your sites to be noted and grow. Count on your first six months as a time to get established. During that time you shouldn't focus on reviewing your visitor stats or your earnings stats, just leave it be and focus on development instead.

5. Buy an account at MBposter.com and submit blog posts for your different blogs and maybe top site for a month or two. It will get you backlinks and you also get to see other people's sites, design, what ads they run and such. Kind of like an internship with a big company.

6. Make a sitemap of your top site and submit to Google. A sitemap can be created here: http://www.xml-sitemaps.com. If you don't have a webmaster.google.com account for your top site, now is a good time to activate it. Add your site there and submit your sitemap. While at it, open up webmaster accounts at Bing and Yahoo also.

7. Consider hosting some or all of the galleries yourself. This is much harder and will definitely increase your server bill, but will also give better click through and time on site which will improve your points with Google. Also, this is something few competitiors have the energy and money to do, they are lazy, just like everyone else. So if you go the extra mile, you might very well come out ahead. Have a designer make up say 10 or 15 gallery templates for you and then put the content in there and then add them to your TGP rotation.

That should at least get you started and well on your way. It will definitely keep you busy for the next month or so. Give it 6 months of time and energy, stop wasting money by throwing it away on quick traffic without any real idea of what to do with it. that's the best set of advice that I can give for right now.

This is the best advice you will ever get! :thumbsup

thmvp20 01-25-2014 11:45 AM

Knowing what I know today versus what I knew back then (nothing), in addition to how the value backlinks have changed over the past few years, maybe I'm pointing out the obvious here but personally if I'm going to create a private blog network these days, emphasis on "private". SEO Hosting is good (I've been using aseohosting). To me it's worth it to pay a little extra for hosting that allows each of your blogs to be on a different IP address. As opposed to 4-5 different blogs on the same IP address. Plus use the domain privacy options with your registrar (Namecheap is really good and Privacy comes free with registration). Because If Google can determine you are the webmaster of all those blogs pointing to your money site, the backlinks are kinda worthless. Also keep an eye on those Expired adult websites, there are some diamonds in the rough and inherit ownership of - for example - an established PR3 website with 5-10 pages+ and a decent link profile of its own. Can save you time and money.

videosc 01-26-2014 06:49 PM

I also wanted to compliment Adraco on his great advice. I've been adult blogging for several years and all of his tips still hold true today. For a few of them I can offer some additional advice gained from my experience:

1. By all means try to buy the longest hosting plan you can afford. Most hosts offer some super special discount deal to get you to sign up and then once that expires and all your sites are established the price goes up to the regular rate. I learned this the hard way with Host Gator and iCertfied. When I signed up I think it was like $3 or $4 a month and then it went up to about $10 after 6 months or a year. This taught me to be on the lookout for long term deals and last year I got an incredible $4.99 a month LIFETIME hosting plan from AmeriNOC. Woo-hoo!! So for anyone just starting out today I'd recommend buying a 2 year hosting plan. That should give you enough time to see if you can make money doing this.

2. The same goes for domain purchases. If you find a domain name you really like and you think its catchy and popular, buy it for at least 2 years or longer. First of all, Google supposedly likes domains with longer expiration dates than one year domains, and second, domain prices never go down, so you're saving some money with a longer term. Some people are saying that dot coms will become less popular over the next few years as more top level domains come on the market so I'm not sure I'd buy a 5 or 10 year domain. (And of course, don't waste your money on anything other than a dot com.)

3. The Google site map Adraco mentioned can be done automatically in several Wordpress plugins like Yoast SEO and All-In-One SEO, which are two of the most highly recommended plugins to help your site do better in search engines.

4. I'd have to echo the comment about not doing too many sites and spreading yourself thin. Instead of doing 100 sites with 10 posts each I now think it would be better to do 50 sites with 20 posts, or even 25 sites with 40 posts. When I started I ended up buying a lot of domain names for niches I had a passing interest in. If I could go back in time to advise my younger self I'd tell me to only do sites for niches I am REALLY passionate about.

5. A lot of webmasters swear by using Tumblr to drive traffic to their blogs. Some swear at Tumblr for stealing so much of the porn traffic on Google. Still, it might be something worth trying.

6. The idea of creating a campaign for each of your blogs is excellent, although you can't do this with CCBill sites. An alternate idea is to use a link cloaking option like YourLS (http://yourls.org/) so you can shorten your links and create specific ones you can track for each of your blogs. This is also a good idea to prevent a major headache later if one of your sponsors decides to change their affiliate links. With a link shortener its a piece of cake to make the change. Not so much if you have the old, long link spread out over hundreds of posts or blogs.

7. Choose the first CCBill sponsor you sign up with carefully. You will be able to merge all of your subsequent CCBill sponsor sign-ups under this single account so choose a very well established program for the first one. Choosing a new or lesser known program for your first could create a problem if that site goes out of business later.

8. And lastly, I think the one bit of advice that wasn't covered back in 2011 when this thread appeared that really applies today is this: make sure your site is RESPONSIVE! That's web talk for a site that looks good on every device a person might view it on: computer monitor, laptop, tablet and smartphone. I keep seeing more and more traffic coming from mobile devices so if I want to remain competitive I now have to go back and retrofit my blogs so they are responsive. If you're just starting out you have an advantage over dinosaurs like me: launch your Wordpress blog and do a search for responsive themes. There are a ton of them, many free and more in the $30 - $60 range. Even the current WP default theme twenty fourteen is responsive.

Those are just some suggestions off the top of my head. A lot of people here at GFY have given me excellent advise over the years so I hope my words help out someone else just starting out! Then you can come back in a year or two and help out another newbie. Pay it forward, as they say!
:thumbsup

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Tittytweaker 02-12-2014 01:14 PM

I'd read this thread before, and was linked to it again recently in another thread.

Lots of good info here. However, I'm still confused about how someone is expected to maintain dozens of sites. Unless the purpose isn't maintaining them, but rather creating them as "shill" websites, if you will, to link back to your main site.

Is that the basic idea? I guess I'm still sort of confused in that regard. I guess it would explain why the web is so saturated with low quality sites if that's a common technique to get a boatload of backlinks.

If anyone could explain that, I'd appreciate it.

videosc 02-20-2014 08:37 AM

Tittytweaker, in my case I have about 80 domains which compared to most adult webmasters is probably on the low side. I regularly update about 20 or 30 of them and the rest are used to link to my other sites. The domains I do not update regularly have very keyword specific URLs that either show up in search results or people just type them into their browser. For example, someone could probably get a lot of traffic from owning a domain like bigtits.com because a lot of surfers will just type that into their browser.

On my feeder sites I have between 10 to 20 blog posts to keep the surfer somewhat interested, but again, the main purpose of these sites is to get them to my bigger, more popular blogs and to create some backlink love. To be honest, I realize this blogging business model is probably out of date but when I started it was the technique that everyone seemed to recommend.

Having said all that I've been giving some thought to selling some of my feeder domains and just concentrating on my biggest sites.

waltgator 02-23-2014 10:49 PM

great advice! I should have read these awhile back!

longpig 03-04-2014 05:10 PM

A genuinely fascinating thread, a big thankyou to all the knowledgeable folks out there who've contributed to this. A couple of questions:

Firstly, I had read that this blog farm model wasn't working too well any more, is it really so easy to fool Google with SEO Hosting and domain privacy? Does this seem to anyone the kind of system that is likely to get penalised in a 2014 algorithm shift, or do you think it's vaguely future proof for now?

Secondly, videosc mentioned this sort of business model might be nearing retirement - if so, what's the alternative? Is there an Adaco for 2014 to step up and school us on the next big thing?

Many thanks,

Andy (:

Adraco 03-05-2014 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longpig (Post 20004814)
A genuinely fascinating thread, a big thankyou to all the knowledgeable folks out there who've contributed to this. A couple of questions:

Firstly, I had read that this blog farm model wasn't working too well any more, is it really so easy to fool Google with SEO Hosting and domain privacy? Does this seem to anyone the kind of system that is likely to get penalised in a 2014 algorithm shift, or do you think it's vaguely future proof for now?

Secondly, videosc mentioned this sort of business model might be nearing retirement - if so, what's the alternative? Is there an Adaco for 2014 to step up and school us on the next big thing?

Many thanks,

Andy (:

Adraco is still here...

It is NOT easy to fool Google, do not even think you can - because Google knows...! The model described above will work, even today, but clearly with a lot less return on your invested time and energy. Nevertheless, it will work and it will earn money if done right.

The alternative today is to build Tumblr sites or other small "few-pages-sites" on free hosts, load it up with ads and sell popunders on the page too. Make the site earn $1 a day and then move on to build a new one. Build-and-forget, with zero costs for domains or hosting, you will start earning a lot sooner.

Nevertheless, you will need some own hosting for your important sites, the one you give some extra love. If you do want to give some credit, please consider signing up for my preferred host, Amerinoc, at the following link:
https://cash.amerinoc.com/idevaffili...d=104&tid1=gfy
They have served me well for years and continue to do so moving on. Excellent service and good prices too.

TheMonger 03-05-2014 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adraco (Post 20006023)
Adraco is still here...

It is NOT easy to fool Google, do not even think you can - because Google knows...! The model described above will work, even today, but clearly with a lot less return on your invested time and energy. Nevertheless, it will work and it will earn money if done right.

The alternative today is to build Tumblr sites or other small "few-pages-sites" on free hosts, load it up with ads and sell popunders on the page too. Make the site earn $1 a day and then move on to build a new one. Build-and-forget, with zero costs for domains or hosting, you will start earning a lot sooner.

Nevertheless, you will need some own hosting for your important sites, the one you give some extra love. If you do want to give some credit, please consider signing up for my preferred host, Amerinoc, at the following link:
https://cash.amerinoc.com/idevaffili...d=104&tid1=gfy
They have served me well for years and continue to do so moving on. Excellent service and good prices too.

The tumblrs have been working out quite well for me. I can see much potential in them, not only making money on their own, but sending traffic to my tubes. Get paid twice.

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