lie #1 Jim owes me money from a loan and he states here in public that i never loaned him money.
I gave you money because you came to ME, asking for it. For what I dont know. Dosnt matter
Lie#2 Jim states that he never sent an invoice and better yet that i never gave him one.
This is how the story goes...
Jim contacted me for design work on a few sites. Jim asked for low pricing due to bulk and ongoing work.
6 different sites
68 Banners
12 HPA
12 FPA
9 pic galleries
8 movie galleries
109 pieces total
I quoted him 1350, less than 13 a piece, very competitive if you ask me.
I sent in some banners, they were not sufficient.
They didnt like these, so I asked to trya nother site.
I was told this one they liked due to contrasting colors.
Then I made a gallery.
I was told this was no good either. After i modified it a couple times to see if they would like it then. nope.
Then Jim and I made a decision to make an FPA and if they dont like it then we will part ways, if they like it then we move on.
I never got an opinion on this one, this is where Jim dissappeared. I left "hey yous" and shit on his ICQ, his reply was. "most likely wont get a reply til after the show" this was during internext.
Never heard form Jim again.
I notcied he had a new sig and new design. So i confronted jim, he said they had decided to drop my order and that its out of his hands. He said he would give my invoice to the heads. This was on Jims last day i believe... the 15th, wednesday...
heres the proof of Jim being a liar. To us all.
Heres is our conversation yesterday where i was whining
slightly edited to eliminate potentially libelous statements that are irrelevant to this incident.
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Date and Time: 08/28/2007 00:33 AM
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yo
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 08:46 AM
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sup
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 09:13 AM
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did you ever send that invoice through, I never got a confirmation...
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 09:13 AM
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nor a check
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 09:14 AM
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of course i did
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 09:14 AM
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youre the MAN jim...
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 09:15 AM
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dud i wouldnt coutn on her paying
-edit- this is where jim talks about his dealings with his prior employer -edit-
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:35 PM
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http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=764242
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:35 PM
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drammmmmaaaa
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:45 PM
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Well Jim, im going to be honest with you.
i dont know who to believe or trust in this matter.
youre both fishy..
I contacted leslie right after i sent you the invoice...
is day after the weekend was over.
she told me you never sent her an invoice. She told me that before or directly after internext you canceled the order with her and said I dissappeared...
heres where i dont throw you out the window though.
she hasnt paid me yet afetr recieving the invoice from me.
-edit- Here is where I say something reguarding a conversation between me and leslie. I admit it, she knows it for she has seen this script -edit-
so i sit here weighting each side... as where you have an unstable rep, yet you seem truly like a nice guy... and I have her, with nothing but golden reps from people I ask, yet..... im not paid....
im gonna sit here and watch it all pan out...
If you truly didnt send her an invoice im very dissappointed in you. I may even cry.
but theres nothing to say she is/isnt lying...
all i do know is I worked a deal for my time and effort with a company, and I havent been paid.
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:46 PM
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gimme a sec
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:47 PM
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ill find it
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:50 PM
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setn on the 13th according to my records, the first one was sent weeks before
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:51 PM
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let me ask you this
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:51 PM
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why WOULDNT i send it?
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:51 PM
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you sent my invoice to her on the 13th?
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:51 PM
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by email?
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:53 PM
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im lookimng for the actual email
Date and Time: 08/28/2007 04:53 PM
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i kept a DB with her on everythign i did
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take in mind, jim never confirmed to me that he sent it by email on the 13th... but this is all the info on the subject i got from him.
Notice on my invoice, it says 14th. i sent it to him on the 15th.
i have doctored nothing to my advantage. Fuck you Jim, Youre the liar.
I upped the price on the individual pricing on my final job since the bulk order was not followed through on. Leslie has agreed to pay me. She told me that you never gave her an invoice, that you said I left the deal. She also told me they WILL be using my material.
Jim... youre a liar dude.
you owe me money.
This thread had nothing to do with my design job that you brokered. Not until you opened your flaming ass mouth.
Being a tough guy will get you no where man. SKills will...
Now shut the fuck up and learn some business ethics you liar.
Youre paying other people. Other people that were kind enough to loan you money when you asked.
mind you it was only $6.50
but that could have been MY beer money