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Originally Posted by Robbie
1. You didn't tell me anything about watermarks 3 years ago. I have no idea what you're talking about.
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do a gfy search, i mentioned watermarks 3 years ago when i first started making the points about fair use (it was one of those thread you jumped in and kept arging that copyright was an absolute right/monopoly)
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2. I bought the Sidekick live cam chat software back in 2007 and we have done live interaction since the 3rd month of CM's websites existence. When I did that I had no idea what a torrent or a tube was or that you even existed...I did it because it's what I would want to see on a website and that's why I have always made good money in the entertainment business. Not because of you.
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but your still not using branding bugs right,
book mark this thread 3 years from now when you finally start using branding bugs correctly you should remember who told you to do it.
However given your last denial (see above) i doubt it will happen you will simply claim you came up with it yourself.
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3. A TV series is NOT analogous to pornography. This is the most important thing you keep missing. Bro, I've done this a long time. And there are so many little factors that go into marketing and niches etc. that others miss, but I don't. But all of that gets thrown out of the window when you give it all away for free. This is NOT an episode of "Heroes" This is pornography. It feeds a different human need.
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i am not saying they are exactly the same, but they have many of the same similarities. The fact that you adopted animated watermarks proves it. If the were such different animals that nothing that works for them will ever work for you you would have tried it and switched back faster than you can "see this does not work".
every porn site that does split testing between animated (no more intrusive then tv shows) and non animated see a significant improvement in customer value (retention, happiness, interactivity etc). It basic NLP and your own stats would prove it.
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That's why despite all of your talk you can't DO what you claim. Go ahead. Again I DARE you. Buy some content and prove me wrong by becoming a multi-millionaire selling memberships to your paysite using torrents, tubes, watermarks, and branding bugs. I DARE you.
Talk is cheap Gideon. Your theories are total bullshit for porn sites.
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i am a traffic guy
and traffic is dirt cheap in the porn world
tube site traffic is only between .75 per 1000 and if your lucky $7
it averages around $2/ k
to get a video featured on youtube cost minimum 5 cents per click or $50/k and averages $150/k
i am a person who can do a title tag optimization of a video and get 53,874 in 4 days
(it takes me less 3 hours to do that level of analysis by the way which translates into $500/hour)
i am never going to make that kind of money in adult when competitive traffic source sells for $.75 /k.
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And as far as laws and regulations go, Dirty Dane said it best in this thread:
"It is illegal activity that result in laws and regulations. Not legal activity.
It is the pirates that makes internet regulated. Not the original producers."
You see gideon, for years there was no need for all this bullshit. It wasn't until people started stealing and monetizing other people's work that things went to hell. And yeah, when you've have your entire livelihood at stake and all of your hard work and your children and your family depend on you...and then you watch your revenue stream taken from you while others profit off of it then YES, I can understand why that would lead many to desperately call for regulations.
But since you don't believe that and you're so much smarter than us. Then again, WHY aren't you a millionaire already?
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i would rather sell my skills for $27.35/k then $.25/k
your assuming that i make most of my money in adult, i don't
the little trick i figuired out to get those 56k of target views (picking the exact right keywords/order to get 1st page listing on 2047 different keyword phrases) i learned testing out using adult content.
i made 100 x more money selling "featured video" buyers my services then i ever made doing the same thing in adult.
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Because it doesn't work.
"No Robbie, I'm working on mainstream and television shows, etc."
But yet you yourself have said that they don't believe your theories and you can't sell them on the idea either.
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only if you are a world class moron who mistakenly believes that just because tv stations who are currently taking 22/26 commercial spots are not interested all the other tv producers who are currently getting screwed haven't given us all kinds of content to run our test on.
1900 tv shows are rejected every year, the mailing list from nab of producer booths cost less than a grand to get. And 37% sent us the copies of the shows on the first mailing.
37% of 1900 is not nothing.
so far the best matching show only matches on 103/121 of the necessary key points. If i controled the production/could re edit the content i could get the last little bits but i don't so we have to keep finding one that perfectly matches.
If we pick the wrong one and just barely fail it still a failure so we are not jumping the gun on the mainstream test especially when the money is so much higher in that marketplace.
don't confuse caution with failure. That being said when the cost of production is so low, you don't NEED to meet anywhere close to the 121 conditions to succeed. porn guys can cover cost with as little as 43 conditions in place. Most of you guys have all of those 43 conditions in place right now so all it would take is implementing some insignificant changes to take advantage of them.
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Gideon, I'll say it again. In all seriousness, I think you're a bright guy. But you are wasting whatever talents you have on an issue that is a dead end.
The reason that mainstream doesn't want to invest in it is because they know that new laws are coming. You are working with a concept that is dead on arrival. It doesn't work and it will soon be a moot point.
But one more time...Since you are so convinced. Stop being just another nameless, faceless braggart on GFY and actually DO something. Prove me wrong. Small investment, HUGE returns. Start a paysite and do it Gideon. What do you have to lose?
According to you nothing. And you will make money...lots of money.
You won't and you can't.
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i have told you the money is better in mainstream
you can independently check and see that the money is better in mainstream (buy traffic to a video at youtube/ buy traffic from choker)
you have a concrete proof of my skill level in title only keyword optimization.
Do you really believe that if i went to a person paying youtube 15 cent per click to their video showed them that screen shot and said pay me 2.735 cents per click and i will do that natural seo optimization i could convince say 1% of those people to take me up on the offer. Especially when i tell them they can put the money in escrow and only pay me for the hits i actually deliver.
