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Originally Posted by helterskelter808
Actually the biggest, most organized and planned terrorist attack in US history is nothing like some jackass robbing a bank, and the entire state, defense and intelligence apparatus of the US and its allies is also nothing like a local PD. I'm surprised you would think otherwise.
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You took what I said completely out of context.
I did not compare 9/11 to a shooting.
I said your boy there claiming the CIA failed to prevent this is like saying the police failed to prevent a crime from happening before it happened, which is absurd.
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Originally Posted by helterskelter808
Of course. All the Russians had to to was get into US airspace it was game over.
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Your guy is blaming NORAD for this, but that's wrong. NORAD is mostly in Canada and Alaska, looking for Russian bombers. They have radar looking at US approaches, not the US itself. Fuck, the FAA couldn't tell which plane was hijacked. It's really easy to say "look at the radar" but the truth is at any given time there are thousands of planes flying over the US.
And at the end of the day what the fuck was NORAD going to do? Even if the FAA could figure out exactly which plane was hijacked and exactly where the plane was, what were they going to do? Shoot civilian airplanes out of the sky?
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Originally Posted by helterskelter808
No, nobody saw them coming. There were not numerous intelligence reports before 9/11 that something was about to happen. We had no conception that planes could be used as weapons. No plots were ever foiled, no movies or books ever had that as their premise. Nothing.
Who could have predicted an attack on the WTC? It's not like it actually happened, in 1993. Who could predict someone stealing a plane and crashing it into, say, the White House? It's not like that happened too, on September 11 1994.
Other events that never happened just in that same one year include:
Air France Flight 8969, where an Islamist group hijacked a plane with the apparent intention of crashing it into the Eiffel Tower.
PAL Flight 434, a precursor to " Project Bojinka", a large scale plot to hijack multiple airliners and crash one into the headquarters of the CIA.
FedEx Flight 705, where a suicidal hijacker of a cargo plane over Arkansas, armed with two claw hammers, two mallets, a knife, and a speargun, was overpowered by the crew and the plane landed successfully.
The list goes on and on and on.
Yes, no wonder 9/11 was a complete surprise to absolutely everyone everywhere and could not possibly have been averted. Oh, except it was averted, at least right up until the neo-cons took over the White House, after talking about a 'new Pearl Harbor'.
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And again your taking this all out of context. Yes, there was a bombing in the WTC years prior, and yes, airplanes have been used as weapons before. But what your saying here is we should have seen this coming. That's easy to do after the fact.
Know what, your right. Your one hundred percent right. We should have seen this coming. I demand that NORAD, the USAF, the CIA, AND the FBI set up a joint task force in LA to protect the Staples Center because it might some day be the target of a terrorist attack. They should send out spies from LA to the Middle East to ensure no one is plotting to do this. We'll have to do the same for the Space Needle up in Seattle, the Sears Building in Chicago, the Empire State building in NYC, the White House, monuments, stadiums, all tall buildings... Because they've attacked them before and they will do it again. Because someone flew an airplane into a building means that any building can now be a target, so we should put anti aircraft missiles at these locations.
BTW, NYPD did just this - set up a special task force to investigate potential terrorist attacks. They even had help from the CIA. I'm sure you read about the public felt about the NYPD spying on American citizens in New Jersey.