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Old 05-27-2001, 06:03 AM  
wolfshade
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Ok, people I'm going to try to do this civilised this one time as I said all about vipdialer I am going to say in the other threads.

1) Yes I run my own dialer program
This came forth from the giant mess that exists in the dialer bizz, so I decided to start my own and provide some quality.

2) The resource: dialerclopedia was there before the dialerprogram and as you can see there are a lot of good dialerprograms listed on the trusted dialers list.

3) To correct your statement: Vip dialer is not the largest Dialup2 is and you will find Alex on my trusted list.

In fact there are only 2 dialersprograms on my blacklists why? because the tactics described on that blacklist were proven beyond a doubt.

The bottomline is that I'm not in this to knock out the competition it's a large internet and there is plenty of room for everybody. In fact I got along fine with Snow untill I found out what is listed there.

I do not think I have to defend my reasons for blacklisting as it is pretty well documented on there.

In fact I'll make a statement right here so you are all my witnesses:

Vip dialer has been blacklisted for 2 reasons
and Snow don't start a pissing much on this again as I'm just stating what happened back then.

The minute I hear from webmasters that reported Vip-dialer that they have been paid that non-payment statement is gone from there. But untill he does it is valid and belongs up there.

On a personal note:

I do not blacklist companies lightly in fact I hate it that there are 2 up there, but facts are facts and the main purpose of Dialerclopedia is to create clarity in the dialer business. But I would have liked it MUCH better if that list was empty I realy would.

Snow has good dialers, and innovative promotional tools on his program, which you won't hear anything negative about from me. It's the ethics he displayed on the thread listed on that blacklists and the stream of complaints about non-payment I received that put vipdialer there nothing else.

For the record I do not care how "BIG" or "SMALL" a company is. If there is fishy stuff going on which has been proven I will blackist plain and simple but ONLY if it has been proven beyond a doubt.

To sum it up

I run my own dialerprogram and I run it as best I can, I like to work with my collegues in this business but I always keep in mind that The Dialerclopedia resource was there first and my first priority is to keep it that way a useful resource where people can get informed about dialers without fear of being ripped off.

Now the last thing I will say about Snow is this:

There are a lot of webmasters getting paid by Snow. I see that, admit that and respect their opinions as they are stated all over this board. However that is by no means a reason to dismiss valid complaints from webmasters that did not get paid as in my opinion Sellective payment is just as bad as not paying at all.

This being said, I'm open to any opinions you guys may have to offer because I also believe that the Dialerclopedia resource is there for your benefit and if you would like to see things different on that I'm always listening

Cheers,
Wolfshade


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