Wow this is live sex

[maxjohan]

http://www.myfreecams.com

All nude, making money by tip only?

[XD2]

Yeah, I think the top performers make some pretty good money though. We are writing software at the moment to offer this same kind of platform as well as the standard pay as you watch option.

[DiF0r]

interesting site

[PornMD]

Originally Posted by maxjohan

http://www.myfreecams.com

All nude, making money by tip only?

Timeline pic...it's been around for a while and discussed on here a lot (search MFC for most of the discussions). And yes if tubes didn't hamper you guys trying to get paid memberships from people, MFC undoubtedly does.

[CaptainHowdy]

Lots of oral (spoken) sex in there...

[BlackCrayon]

i've spent some time there and seen over 5k in tips be spent in less than 1 hour on certain cam girls.

[djroof]

interesting.....

[alias]

Very popular site.

[DWB]

I know a few girls on there who left other cam networks because they were making WAY more money at MFC. Not every girl does well there but those who get it, clean house.

[2intense]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

Lots of oral (spoken) sex in there...

[Spunky]

Some cute looking girlies on there

[garce]

I've already whacked off to that site today - twice! All without paying a cent!

[garce]

Originally Posted by garce

I've already whacked off to that site today - twice! All without paying a cent!

Make that three times. Whew...

[Davy]

I watched one of their top performers make a couple of hundred dollars in an hour.
All she did was chatting and trying to find the anonymous person who tipped her ("moose").
Really, it's easy money for her. All she seems to do is chat with people.
She does have nice boobs, though.
Here she is after receiving a hundred dollar tip:

Kaching!!!

[Davy]

There are some girls who sell themselves short, though.
There is one girl who plays with those monster dildos. Pretty much the same show all the time. It makes me a bit sad. I don't see her receive that many tips. She should do the stuff in private.

[Robbie]

You guys are taking into account that the tips are only 5 cents right?
If she gets 100, she only made 5 bucks.
Just sayin'...we already tried it out. Wasn't as profitable at all as Streamate. Not even close.

[Slutboat]

I know girls that make up to $1000 a day on MFC...(many girls dont make much however because they don't know how to work it) you guys really didn't know about MFC???

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Slutboat

I know girls that make up to $1000 a day on MFC...(many girls dont make shit however) you guys really didn't know about MFC???

Which girls make $1,000 a day? That's great money. I don't know any girls including some of the biggest stars in the world who make $1,000 a day on webcams. But maybe someone from the big webcam sites could clear all that up for you.

EDIT: Not saying that they CAN'T make $1,000 a day. CM makes $400 a day (that's her goal) on webcams. Does it in about 3 hours. But 3 hours is about all she can physically handle on webcam...she is having orgasms the whole time lol. All the guys want to see her cum so she has a vibrator on her clit and a dildo in her ass for 3 hours. And then she collapses from exhaustion.
heh-heh

[Mutt]

i've watched MFC a fair bit in the last few weeks - it's only the top girls who are in the top few rows on page 1 who are making bank. the rest would be better off on a traditional webcam site doing private and group.

i saw a girl get an insane tip - over $1000 dollars - NOT 1000 tokens - she broke down in tears. i showed it to another webmaster and he showed me a bunch of screencaps of girls getting monster tips.

Claudia Marie I think is overage for MFC - MFC seems very focused on girls between 18-28.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Mutt

i've watched MFC a fair bit in the last few weeks - it's only the top girls who are in the top few rows on page 1 who are making bank. the rest would be better off on a traditional webcam site doing private and group.

i saw a girl get an insane tip - over $1000 dollars - NOT 1000 tokens - she broke down in tears. i showed it to another webmaster and he showed me a bunch of screencaps of girls getting monster tips.

Claudia Marie I think is overage for MFC - MFC seems very focused on girls between 18-28.

Cool. I spent a good bit of time on there a few months ago when all those claims were made. Never saw anybody making much of anything. But I know something must be happening over there.

Seems to be a lot of fillipino and 3rd world girls there. Most of the U.S. girls aren't there because the money isn't right. But hell...if a girl got a tip of 40,000 tokens (the tokens are ten cents each, the girl makes half) then that is pretty spectacular. I have zero idea why anybody in their right mind would do that...but stranger shit has happened!

Do you have a link to this 40,000 token screencap? I'd like to see it and see who the girl was.

[John.]

$1K a day is sweet cash, who would a thunk it.. on a "free" site and all..

[comeplay]

I have seen more than that by a user "mfcowner" it could just be a fake account to go around and seem like a baller or something but I counted 100,000 tokens in an hour from this user

[alias]

Wouldn't mind a public affiliate program or a mfc clone we can promote.

[Ron Bennett]

Originally Posted by comeplay

I have seen more than that by a user "mfcowner" it could just be a fake account to go around and seem like a baller or something but I counted 100,000 tokens in an hour from this user

Interesting - maybe it's a marketing ploy ("mfcowner" - that username choice seems suspicious) to encourage average surfers to strut their egos and tip, even excessively so, the performers? Kinda similar to shill bidding tactics in auctions to get bidders overly-excited and over-bidding.

Ron

[PornoMonster]

You can filter to show North American only.
If you know how to work this cam system, you can do well.
Mutt is right, seems to be a younger model, or I have seen a few niches do ok.

[garce]

I spend no time on the site. I just click on naked things. 30 seconds, I`m back at work.

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by Robbie

You guys are taking into account that the tips are only 5 cents right?
If she gets 100, she only made 5 bucks.
Just sayin'...we already tried it out. Wasn't as profitable at all as Streamate. Not even close.

Not even close? I remember the thread where Claudia tried MFC for a few hours and compared it to Streamate, and the earnings were very close. I do realize Streamate makes good sense for Claudia because of the integrated sign up to her site that Streamate has. I do wonder if Claudia did a few hours on MFC and had her url displayed on her cam how many signups to her site she'd get.

[jkthedesigner]

It's been around the block. I saw a girl get tipped 35k tokens but that's it. Most of the girls who make money develop virtual relationships with a certain members. Those members are the same ones at every show tipping, buying every damn video off of her site for $xx for 10 minutes of crappy video, etc.. If they have a body and a great personality, they'll make money if they put in the time.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by lazycash

Not even close? I remember the thread where Claudia tried MFC for a few hours and compared it to Streamate, and the earnings were very close. I do realize Streamate makes good sense for Claudia because of the integrated sign up to her site that Streamate has. I do wonder if Claudia did a few hours on MFC and had her url displayed on her cam how many signups to her site she'd get.

No she didn't make close. It wasn't real close at all. If it was she'd still do it. Hell, I made her sign up and try it...if there was all this crazy money happening I wanted in too.

But it just wasn't. And while she was doing it I was surfing the top girls and they were all practically begging guys to tip them. Wasn't very pleasant from my viewpoint surfing it. Kinda reminded me of some of the real pushy strip clubs I've been to where the dancers are bugging you every two seconds for money.

Just saying. Out of all the girls I know that tried MFC none of them have made good money on it. These are all porn girls though and they all make monster money on other cam sites. So maybe Mutt is right and the teen type girls who didn't make bank on a "normal" cam site are the ones who make bank on MFC.

Heck I don't know. But I'd sure like to see or hear one camgirl give it a positive report. All we have right now is webmasters talking about seeing girls making fortunes. I honestly have never seen that happen.

Doesn't mean it hasn't or doesn't. Just means that the week or so that I surfed it and CM worked it, we didn't see anybody making great money.

As I remember CM's experience, she was working her ass off on there and making about fifty bucks an hour. Less than half of what she makes on Streamate, and less than she made on Streamray as well. So that's just my insiders report from one girl.

Now she did have over 500 guys in her room. All talking about how hot she is and the usual bullshit. But just no money happening. And CM does have a personality that can get guys to spend. So if she's capable of talking guys into spending 4 bucks a minute in private on other cam sites...it doesn't make any sense that she is unable to talk them into tipping her.

But everybody is different of course. I'd just like to know the exact girl who is making all this money that these stories go around about. I'd like to watch her show for a few days and see if it's true and try to figure out what it is that she's doing that's so different. I want that money too. heh-heh

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by Robbie

No she didn't make close. It wasn't real close at all. If it was she'd still do it. Hell, I made her sign up and try it...if there was all this crazy money happening I wanted in too.

But it just wasn't. And while she was doing it I was surfing the top girls and they were all practically begging guys to tip them. Wasn't very pleasant from my viewpoint surfing it. Kinda reminded me of some of the real pushy strip clubs I've been to where the dancers are bugging you every two seconds for money.

Just saying. Out of all the girls I know that tried MFC none of them have made good money on it. These are all porn girls though and they all make monster money on other cam sites. So maybe Mutt is right and the teen type girls who didn't make bank on a "normal" cam site are the ones who make bank on MFC.

Heck I don't know. But I'd sure like to see or hear one camgirl give it a positive report. All we have right now is webmasters talking about seeing girls making fortunes. I honestly have never seen that happen.

Doesn't mean it hasn't or doesn't. Just means that the week or so that I surfed it and CM worked it, we didn't see anybody making great money.

As I remember CM's experience, she was working her ass off on there and making about fifty bucks an hour. Less than half of what she makes on Streamate, and less than she made on Streamray as well. So that's just my insiders report from one girl.

Now she did have over 500 guys in her room. All talking about how hot she is and the usual bullshit. But just no money happening. And CM does have a personality that can get guys to spend. So if she's capable of talking guys into spending 4 bucks a minute in private on other cam sites...it doesn't make any sense that she is unable to talk them into tipping her.

But everybody is different of course. I'd just like to know the exact girl who is making all this money that these stories go around about. I'd like to watch her show for a few days and see if it's true and try to figure out what it is that she's doing that's so different. I want that money too. heh-heh

I'm curious though, why doesn't CM use both sites simultaneously like some girls do and maximize her time on cam. All she'd have to do is be live on both sites and when she got a private show on streamate it would appear on mfc as "away from webcam". At least she'd make money on mfc for all the time she sits on streamate waiting for a private. At the minimum it would instantly add 20% for her time on cam without doing anything extra.

This was your post that I was thinking of, I see now that she spent more time on mfc. It probably wasn't a fair comparison though as it was her first time on mfc and you have to learn how to work the crowd a little differently there.

Originally Posted by Robbie

Okay, here is what we found today.

We signed up CM and she went on. She was on for 150 minutes and was tipped 1813 tokens or $90.65

Then we went on Streamate and in 72 minutes she made $99.29

Kind of a slow day for Streamate (CM makes about $110 an hour on a good day on Streamate) so I'm guessing it was a slow day on a nice Saturday afternoon for MFC too.

But as you can see...CM still made more money in less than half the time on Streamate.

My guess is that more guys with money are on Streamate. But that is just my theory from what I saw CM make and what I saw some of the little tiny teen girls who were basically real pushy demanding tips making when I watched them today as well on MFC.

I'm thinking that if CM were more of a pushy and demanding type like some of the girls I saw on MFC today that she could have probably upped that a bit. But that just isn't her style or personality. I kept telling her to ask them for tips but she felt embarrassed to beg.

Anyway, I would say that "yes" there is some money for the girls on MFC. Once CM gets a little more used to the more aggressive "begging" style and feels more comfortable doing that then she will be able to pull those numbers up I'm sure. I also feel like it was a good way to promote her website to some people who may not have seen it before...though the majority of the guys who were commenting were making statements like: "I can't believe it's really you" so I'm not sure if we really got any new eyes or not.

The model admin is top notch on MFC by the way. Really nice.
And we are going to give it some more time to develop and see how it works out...you know, try different days and times to find a "sweet spot"

But I'm still baffled as to why all the alleged webmasters in this thread whom can not make one single penny with MFC because you can not promote it...why are you guys cheerleading it like a bunch of horny surfers? lol

That's what doesn't make much sense to me. Unless you are all planning on opening "Studios" and putting some girls to work on MFC (which ain't a bad idea)


My final grade today: MFC = Pretty Damn Good
Streamate = Better

That of course is subject to change over time. But for now I see more guys with money at Streamate (every person chatting in the room is registered and has a credit card on file...no tokens, Shawn IS the biller). And at MFC you have a room with 1000 guys in it...maybe 50 are registered (potential customer IF they have tokens) and the rest are all "Guests" (no potential anything, unless you are like us and have a website to promote)

[bloggingseo]

I just went on there and some chick went to town on her snatch with a banana! She peeled it, sucked on it, and then stuffed it into her twat! I was shocked :-). I saw a couple of guys give the girl 500 credits but she probably got a lot more.

[kazbalah]

Hmm i always wondered how they made money there.

Stream mate probably makes more money because the way myfreecams promote themselves is like myfreepaysite - the only FREE cam site - so people go there expecting free stuff.

Probably half the surfers are all a-rabs with no money.

But seems like the model is working for them, so great!

[xxweekxx]

dude some girls know how to work that site.. ive seen girls make $5k in few hrs WHILE I WAS JUST WATCHING..

This girl had a profile and she was selling her naked porn video.. wanted to sell only 50 copies, shit sold out in minutes.. and she was selling for $29.99 each

basically the top girls know how to work their shit.. they got these guys in love with them, and actually BUYING THEM GIFTS.. some girl was showing off some diamonds some guy sent her, and the idiot was in the room all proud and shit.

anyway hang around the top girls rooms and u'll see some big $$ being spread..

MFC has crazy traffic

[djroof]

sweet cashhhh

[comeplay]

Originally Posted by xxweekxx

they got these guys in love with them, and actually BUYING THEM GIFTS.. some girl was showing off some diamonds some guy sent her, and the idiot was in the room all proud and shit.

The girls can make a wishlist on MFC of items they want and the guys can buy them the items instead of tokens where MFC takes their %.

Physical items are 100% to the girls every time so some girls push those hard. Once they have a 1200 dollar nikon they make ten 15 minute clips and sell them using paypal, again 100% profit to the girls none to MFC. The girls feel like they are cheating MFC and making this "side money" so they are happy and stick around.. the guys think they are cheating the system when really they are just giving the girls more reason to stick with MFC in the long run. I have seen girls receive new laptops, HD webcams, gift cards for clothes, etc.

[Davy]

Originally Posted by Robbie

You guys are taking into account that the tips are only 5 cents right?

You purchase 200 tokens for 20 bucks.
10 tokens = 1 dollar.
100 tokens = 10 dollars.

Can people not calculate in the Southern States?

[Davy]

The top earners seem to be the ones who are NOT naked. They like to chat and develop relationships with their viewers. The girl in the screenshot above actually always stops everything she does to thank the guy who tipped her. Stops the whole show (not that I've seen a show from her at all, but I don't spend much time on MFC).
Some girls are pros and know how to work it. I registered and joined a chat room and the girl immediately greeted me with my user name.

It's a great system and offers interactivity. It's a tube killer app. The only problem is that tubes might as well deploy the same technology. TNAflix already embedded cams.com cams.

[Paul Markham]

WOW!!!!

Free live shows on a website sell.

Who would of thought of that?

Pity no one has suggested it's a good idea to include into a paysite.

*shaking my head in amazement*

[CaptainHowdy]

Cool stories bros...

[pornjudge]

That site is really degrading for women... it shows you the real truth about women. MONEY IS EVERYTHING TO THEM!

and yes, their are stupid men that supports these kinds of sites.

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by Davy

You purchase 200 tokens for 20 bucks.
10 tokens = 1 dollar.
100 tokens = 10 dollars.

Can people not calculate in the Southern States?

The models keep roughly half of that, so Robbie was right, it comes out to around .05/token or a little higher for the models to keep.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by lazycash

I'm curious though, why doesn't CM use both sites simultaneously like some girls do and maximize her time on cam. All she'd have to do is be live on both sites and when she got a private show on streamate it would appear on mfc as "away from webcam". At least she'd make money on mfc for all the time she sits on streamate waiting for a private. At the minimum it would instantly add 20% for her time on cam without doing anything extra.

We did do that. It wasn't a lot of money happening on MFC, but it was a few bucks...and a dollar is a dollar!

BUT...about an hour in, some jackass comes on streamate and starts posting that he's watching her private show for free at MFC. The minute we saw that we killed the feed to MFC.

Surfers are pretty much on top of everything these days.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I don't know any girls including some of the biggest stars in the world who make $1,000 a day on webcams.

I realize I was kinda wrong about that. As I said earlier, CM makes $400 a day on Streamate. That's the goal when she works, whether she makes it in 1 hour or 4 hours. She usually makes it in around 3 hours give or take 15 minutes.

She gets 35% of the money spent. So I guess each day she actually brings in well over $1,000 a day total. I mean she gets guys to spend that much. And her cut is $400

She tries to work 4 to 5 days a week (goal is to make $2,000 in extra money per week)
Anyway, it's like clockwork. I think that she probably could hit one of those "jackpot" tippers on MFC if she worked a long day on there. But I do have to wonder if they would be loyal and consistent with "tipping" the way that the guys on a "normal" cam site are.

I know that for our situation...time is important. CM just doesn't have the time to spend all day on cams hoping to hit a jackpot. Especially if she knows 100% she can hit her daily goal on another site with no problem. I think that might be one of the biggest reasons that a lot of girls try out MFC but don't stay with it. But that's just theory on my behalf.

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by pornjudge

That site is really degrading for women... it shows you the real truth about women. MONEY IS EVERYTHING TO THEM!

and yes, their are stupid men that supports these kinds of sites.

Have you ever been to a cam site before?

[Roald]

Originally Posted by pornjudge

That site is really degrading for women... it shows you the real truth about women. MONEY IS EVERYTHING TO THEM!

and yes, their are stupid men that supports these kinds of sites.

wait.....what?

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by pornjudge

That site is really degrading for women... it shows you the real truth about women. MONEY IS EVERYTHING TO THEM!

and yes, their are stupid men that supports these kinds of sites.

...and your sig is degrading to anyone with a brain. Why would you support such complete bs, oh wait, you do it for the money.

[Angel Martin]

good stuff

[Agent 488]

that site is shocking. what those crafty whores wont do for a gift card. i have to reasses my view of human nature today. logging off ....

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

what those crafty whores wont do for a gift card.

[maxxtro]

I love the internet. Everything will be free for ever and no one will ever get paid for anything.