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Old 12-06-2010, 09:39 PM   #151
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looks like you can do a bank account transfer as well?
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Old 12-06-2010, 09:41 PM   #152
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looks like you can do a bank account transfer as well?
How much would that cost I wonder?
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Old 12-06-2010, 09:46 PM   #153
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How much would that cost I wonder?
I used to be able to do those in large amounts (around $5000 at a clip) for free at online sportsbooks like Bodog.com back in the day, but I had to send in a shit load of signed verification forms with ID scans before they would accept them and I had to have a certain amount of them go through successfully before they would let those large amounts be available to me instantly. They would draft them from my bank account like checks. I'm guessing again but if MFC allows these they must wait until they clear before they make them available in your account...
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I used to be able to do those in large amounts (around $5000 at a clip) for free at online sportsbooks like Bodog.com back in the day, but I had to send in a shit load of signed verification forms with ID scans before they would accept them and I had to have a certain amount of them go through successfully before they would let those large amounts be available to me instantly. They would draft them from my bank account like checks. I'm guessing again but if MFC allows these they must wait until they clear before they make them available in your account...
Well...I never underestimate the power of pussy. heh-heh

I suppose that a guy could plan this out and keep buying tokens over a week or two or however it had to be done just to "make it rain" all at once like that. Us men can get like that once we are infatuated with a woman.
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Old 12-06-2010, 10:02 PM   #155
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Plus...as an added bonus...affiliates are very welcome. So I'm able to monetize the hell out of them on my free sites as well. Here is a link code to the Money Tree affiliate program (streamate)...sign up and see for yourself: http://wm.mtree.com/webmasters/ref/?341477
Ah, well at first I thought this was your typical type post where you have to say "Claudia Marie" 100x and rave about her endlessly, but at least it was all just an attempt to make webmaster referrals.

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Completely false. On Streamate...there can be 1,000 or more guys in "private" at $3.99 a minute. CM usually has between 5 and 15 at any given moment.
Between 5 and 15 on at any give time in private???? You said she works on average 3-4 hours a day, charging 3.99 a minute and makes $2,000 a week. Your numbers don't add up. If she just had 5 people on for 1/2 of those 4 hours a day that would be: 5x$3.99 x 120 minutes = She would be grossing $2,394 a day. Exaggerate much ?

If she really makes $2,000 a week (her cut at 35%), working 20 hours a week, it comes out to an avg of about $300 an grossed hour. Which at $3.99 a min = an average of a little more than 1 person in private at all times. Which isn't bad, but "usually has 5-15 at any given moment" ??? You either smoking crack or subscribing to Rochard's math.


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Well...I never underestimate the power of pussy. heh-heh

I suppose that a guy could plan this out and keep buying tokens over a week or two or however it had to be done just to "make it rain" all at once like that. Us men can get like that once we are infatuated with a woman.
Well thank god you "suppose" it could be true.



Leo is making millions, yet you seem think this whole tipping method is not good, you debunked it. You spent a couple hours over a few days bouncing around from room to room and didn't see much spending. So you figured it out. Everyone else is wrong, the site doesn't make much money, it was all a big lie. MFC sucks for chat hosts etc...

Thanks for setting everyone else straight, we were all "guessing", you on the other hand debunked the myth by using Claudia as a test subject for a couple hours. Results weren't great = site was shit, everyone else wrong or lieing.

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Ah, well at first I thought this was your typical type post where you have to say "Claudia Marie" 100x and rave about her endlessly, but at least it was all just an attempt to make webmaster referrals.



Between 5 and 15 on at any give time in private???? You said she works on average 3-4 hours a day, charging 3.99 a minute and makes $2,000 a week. Your numbers don't add up. If she just had 5 people on for 1/2 of those 4 hours a day that would be: 5x$3.99 x 120 minutes = She would be grossing $2,394 a day. Exaggerate much ?

If she really makes $2,000 a week (her cut at 35%), working 20 hours a week, it comes out to an avg of about $300 an grossed hour. Which at $3.99 a min = an average of a little more than 1 person in private at all times. Which isn't bad, but "usually has 5-15 at any given moment" ??? You either smoking crack or subscribing to Rochard's math.
Will, I thought you were a webcam guy? The charge is $3.99 a minute. She makes 35%

And 5 to 15 guys in private at any given MOMENT does not mean that they are there the whole time. Lots of them...and I mean LOTS of them click in for just a second to see her tits and then click out. Jesus man...this is supposed to be your field of "expertise". Act like it.

EDIT: Also Will you're leaving out the 30 seconds "break" when the private or exclusive is over. Those add up as well...are you SURE you know about how webcams work? Or just how to market them?
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Old 12-06-2010, 10:09 PM   #157
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Ah, well at first I thought this was your typical type post where you have to say "Claudia Marie" 100x and rave about her endlessly, but at least it was all just an attempt to make webmaster referrals.



Between 5 and 15 on at any give time in private???? You said she works on average 3-4 hours a day, charging 3.99 a minute and makes $2,000 a week. Your numbers don't add up. If she just had 5 people on for 1/2 of those 4 hours a day that would be: 5x$3.99 x 120 minutes = She would be grossing $2,394 a day. Exaggerate much ?

If she really makes $2,000 a week (her cut at 35%), working 20 hours a week, it comes out to an avg of about $300 an grossed hour. Which at $3.99 a min = an average of a little more than 1 person in private at all times. Which isn't bad, but "usually has 5-15 at any given moment" ??? You either smoking crack or subscribing to Rochard's math.
Streamate takes 65%. So of $3.99 models get $1.40 ...


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Streamate takes 65%. So of $3.99 models get $1.40 ...


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Robbie beat me to it.
Yeah... and webcams are his field. I'm thinking that if he had thought about it a second he wouldn't have posted that. But I suppose he's in such a hurry to try and make me look like a liar that he didn't use his head.
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Will, I thought you were a webcam guy? The charge is $3.99 a minute. She makes 35%

And 5 to 15 guys in private at any given MOMENT does not mean that they are there the whole time. Lots of them...and I mean LOTS of them click in for just a second to see her tits and then click out. Jesus man...this is supposed to be your field of "expertise". Act like it.

EDIT: Also Will you're leaving out the 30 seconds "break" when the private or exclusive is over. Those add up as well...are you SURE you know about how webcams work? Or just how to market them?
when a guy clicks for 1 sec its 1min charge right away, so even better if there is 5-15 guys at a time.. that means you claim to be making even more per min.
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Will, I thought you were a webcam guy? The charge is $3.99 a minute. She makes 35%

And 5 to 15 guys in private at any given MOMENT does not mean that they are there the whole time. Lots of them...and I mean LOTS of them click in for just a second to see her tits and then click out. Jesus man...this is supposed to be your field of "expertise". Act like it.

EDIT: Also Will you're leaving out the 30 seconds "break" when the private or exclusive is over. Those add up as well...are you SURE you know about how webcams work? Or just how to market them?
who the fuck you kidding, if you had just 8 people in private together for 30 mins that would be $3.99 x 240 minutes = $957.60 x.35% = $335 more then you said she makes in 3-4 hours.

You making yourself look more and more like an idiot to make it sound like she has 5-15 people on at one time often. First it was "USUALLY" now its any given "MOMENT" for a couple seconds... Probably more like once a twice a day for a couple minutes 5+ people pop on and then leave, apparently because if she had that many people on for even 10 or 20 mins simultaneously she would make more in those couple mins then what you claim she makes in 3-4 hours. Doesn't add up. wow even with the 30 second breaks??? lol

Even an amateur cam person can smell your self inflating ego bullshit bragging a mile away. There has been more than a few people who understand cams pointing out your bs shit and ignorance in this thread, but you right, you cracked it. Claudia is the hottest babe on the net, MFC doesn't work because her 2 hour test didn't make more than streamates, you were too stupid to factor in REGULARS you built up on streamates vs trying a new site out for the very first time with no regulars.

You could get a ton of helpfull advice in this thread that could make you more money, just like in another thread where you found out paying 35% credit card processing fees was over paying and you were able to save some money. You could make money if you fucking listened to people, but instead CM is great, everyone else is stupid. blah blah Do me a favor, you are truely an hardheaded idiot who is helpless....add me to your esteemed ignore list please.


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Streamate takes 65%. So of $3.99 models get $1.40 ...


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Robbie beat me to it.
The extra .40 i left off doesn't make much of a difference at all, she still only manages a little over 1 person paying in private at a time. And if she has 5-10 people at a time for a couple minutes then there is several minutes that she has no one on.


It's simple math you don't need to know shit about webcams...I'll do it to the penny with a calculator to be "exact" for everyone because OMG if I round it to a $1 because I was too lazy to break out the calculator then Robbie is shocked that I am so stupid because webcams is my field... fucking idiot.... calculator out, everyone taking notes???: 60 minutes in an hour. To make a profit of $100 an hour she needs to gross $285.75 an hour. (35% of 285.75 = $100.01) $285.75 / 60 mins = $4.76 a minute of gross sales, which if people are paying $3.99 a minute that is an average of a little more than 1 person at a time. If she has multiple people even just 2,3,4,5 people (much less 15 lol) on at the same time for even a short people of time then that means she would have to sit idle a decent amount of time as well. Or she would be making a lot more than $100 an hour her cut. Peddle that bullshit somewhere else. Simple fucking math. Even with the "30 seconds" breaks... LOL yes Robbie, those 30 seconds breaks, add up!!! let me tell you, if she did 20 individual sessions over the 4 hours that would add up to a whopping 10 mins of the 240 minutes.... staggering... i guess those couple missing 30 second breaks explained it all, like it was the answer to the Bermuda triangle or something. Silly me, I should have accounted for those 30 second breaks....
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Makes sense... I really don't know what the limitations are as far as Visa and adult transactions like that. It would seem to me that with all the uproar over x-sales and $100 charges, that a giant charge like that processing through the already flagged adult processing would be a no-go. But I just don't know the answer.
They have a limit on single transactions, and a limit on transactions per every 24 hours.

And how the fuck did this thread turn into a Robbie/CM comparison thread?
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They have a limit on single transactions, and a limit on transactions per every 24 hours.

And how the fuck did this thread turn into a Robbie/CM comparison thread?
because Robbie entered... every thread he goes into turns into Claudia Marie this, Claudia Marie that.... he has to say her name 100x a thread and she is the bench mark every other model/chat host should be compared against.

She usually has 5 - 15 people in private at any time and Robbie can drop 265K on both his credit cards too, lets see what else can we brag about in this thread. His friends make $300 an hour on cam, but even couples don't make more than claudia marie, did I say claudia marie?



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add me to your esteemed ignore list please.
You got it. You constantly show through your posts that you don't have a lot of knowledge about this business anyway. You seem pretty useless...and I wanted to add you. But I don't add people to ignore just for being irritating. I add them for being insulting and having no manners or class...which you just did in that post. I also add them for asking to be added. So you're two for two.

And Will...before we say goodbye forever. I don't lie. I don't have to. I don't need to. I don't need to exaggerate. I do what I say and can back up everything I say. Goodbye brother. I hope you find success. I'm sure you will (no pun intended)
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You got it. You constantly show through your posts that you don't have a lot of knowledge about this business anyway. You seem pretty useless...and I wanted to add you. But I don't add people to ignore just for being irritating. I add them for being insulting and having no manners or class...which you just did in that post. I also add them for asking to be added. So you're two for two.

And Will...before we say goodbye forever. I don't lie. I don't have to. I don't need to. I don't need to exaggerate. I do what I say and can back up everything I say. Goodbye brother. I hope you find success. I'm sure you will (no pun intended)
lmao, that was worth every penny. thank you. best laugh I had in weeks and now I wont waste time being nice trying to help educate your dumb ignorant, know it all ass.
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when a guy clicks for 1 sec its 1min charge right away, so even better if there is 5-15 guys at a time.. that means you claim to be making even more per min.
No I'm not. I'm not "claiming" anything. You guys are also not counting the $13.80 we net everytime she sells a membership to her site off of Streamate. Jesus...why do you think I'm lying?

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08/29/10 -- -- -- -- --

08/30/10 4.25 8 73 212:38 $311.05
Session Ended Type Price Chat Time Earned
21:27:48 Premium $3.99 0:37 $1.40
21:28:57 Premium $3.99 0:31 $1.40
21:30:05 Premium $3.99 2:48 $3.91
21:30:54 Premium $3.99 4:30 $6.28
21:33:04 Premium $3.99 6:51 $9.57
21:34:59 Premium $3.99 0:33 $1.40
21:36:28 Premium $3.99 1:20 $1.86
21:36:39 Premium $3.99 1:08 $1.58
21:37:15 Premium $3.99 0:38 $1.40
21:38:10 Premium $3.99 1:52 $2.60
21:38:40 Premium $3.99 4:42 $6.56
21:41:32 Premium $3.99 1:58 $2.74
21:41:38 Premium $3.99 5:22 $7.49
21:41:45 Premium $3.99 2:28 $3.44
21:43:36 Premium $3.99 0:50 $1.40
21:43:53 Premium $3.99 0:57 $1.40
21:45:26 Premium $3.99 3:57 $5.52
21:48:13 Premium $3.99 2:37 $3.65
21:48:34 Premium $3.99 0:40 $1.40
21:49:35 Premium $3.99 0:47 $1.40
21:52:02 Premium $3.99 2:14 $3.12
21:54:44 Premium $3.99 0:56 $1.40
21:54:47 Premium $3.99 2:00 $2.79
21:56:33 Premium $3.99 4:49 $6.72
21:59:07 Premium $3.99 2:04 $2.88
22:04:34 Premium $3.99 0:46 $1.40
22:05:21 Premium $3.99 0:56 $1.40
22:05:56 Premium $3.99 10:46 $15.03
22:08:22 Premium $3.99 1:29 $2.07
22:09:06 Premium $3.99 3:34 $4.98
22:11:28 Premium $3.99 0:51 $1.40
22:12:56 Premium $3.99 1:00 $1.40
22:18:59 Premium $3.99 24:52 $34.72
22:19:23 Premium $3.99 0:39 $1.40
22:19:26 Premium $3.99 2:26 $3.40
22:23:47 Exclusive $4.99 2:57 $5.15
22:26:33 Premium $3.99 0:39 $1.40
22:27:36 Premium $3.99 1:23 $1.93
22:28:56 Premium $3.99 2:20 $3.26
22:30:57 Premium $3.99 4:05 $5.70
22:34:52 Premium $3.99 0:48 $1.40
22:39:43 Premium $3.99 2:31 $3.51
22:43:15 Premium $3.99 0:58 $1.40
22:43:16 Premium $3.99 17:39 $24.65
22:44:07 Premium $3.99 2:20 $3.26
22:56:10 Premium $3.99 1:41 $2.35
22:56:11 Premium $3.99 1:02 $1.44
22:56:27 Premium $3.99 1:20 $1.86
22:57:19 Premium $3.99 3:14 $4.51
22:58:13 Premium $3.99 3:12 $4.47
22:59:01 Premium $3.99 3:23 $4.72
22:59:11 Premium $3.99 4:39 $6.49
22:59:36 Premium $3.99 0:36 $1.40
22:59:40 Premium $3.99 2:41 $3.75
22:59:51 Premium $3.99 0:33 $1.40
23:02:24 Premium $3.99 1:12 $1.67
23:02:24 Premium $3.99 1:31 $2.12
23:03:55 Premium $3.99 1:55 $2.67
23:05:10 Premium $3.99 3:39 $5.10
23:06:50 Premium $3.99 1:09 $1.60
23:06:52 Premium $3.99 0:45 $1.40
23:07:42 Premium $3.99 0:58 $1.40
23:10:45 Premium $3.99 4:18 $6.00
23:16:06 Exclusive $4.99 2:21 $4.10
23:32:05 Exclusive $4.99 15:03 $26.28
23:34:57 Premium $3.99 1:00 $1.40
23:36:18 Premium $3.99 1:22 $1.91
23:36:47 Premium $3.99 4:12 $5.86
23:36:50 Premium $3.99 2:01 $2.81
23:41:03 Premium $3.99 2:05 $2.91
23:42:15 Premium $3.99 3:07 $4.35
23:42:38 Premium $3.99 2:24 $3.35
23:45:22 Premium $3.99 1:07 $1.56

08/31/10 4.90 10 113 344:16 $500.34
Session Ended Type Price Chat Time Earned
00:06:49 Premium $3.99 1:12 $1.67
00:08:00 Premium $3.99 3:17 $4.58
00:08:43 Premium $3.99 1:45 $2.44
00:09:10 Premium $3.99 1:24 $1.95
00:19:33 Premium $3.99 1:08 $1.58
00:19:56 Premium $3.99 0:47 $1.40
00:22:50 Premium $3.99 6:14 $8.70
00:23:23 Premium $3.99 0:34 $1.40
00:25:07 Premium $3.99 0:42 $1.40
00:25:58 Premium $3.99 8:01 $11.19
00:27:29 Premium $3.99 1:18 $1.81
00:29:12 Premium $3.99 3:46 $5.26
00:30:14 Premium $3.99 0:50 $1.40
00:31:09 Premium $3.99 3:45 $5.24
00:32:13 Premium $3.99 4:47 $6.68
00:35:22 Premium $3.99 3:59 $5.56
00:37:54 Premium $3.99 0:52 $1.40
00:38:17 Premium $3.99 3:56 $5.49
00:41:00 Premium $3.99 2:58 $4.14
00:43:30 Premium $3.99 3:42 $5.17
00:43:46 Premium $3.99 5:06 $7.12
00:55:54 Exclusive $4.99 0:59 $1.75
01:00:46 Premium $3.99 0:44 $1.40
01:01:21 Premium $3.99 0:39 $1.40
15:08:25 Premium $3.99 1:00 $1.40
15:09:25 Premium $3.99 2:00 $2.79
15:10:12 Premium $3.99 1:30 $2.09
15:10:15 Premium $3.99 0:40 $1.40
15:10:38 Premium $3.99 3:23 $4.72
15:11:37 Premium $3.99 0:42 $1.05
15:12:46 Premium $3.99 1:22 $1.91
15:12:55 Premium $3.99 3:47 $5.28
15:13:31 Premium $3.99 0:54 $1.40
15:15:15 Premium $3.99 4:50 $6.75
15:16:21 Premium $3.99 3:41 $5.14
15:18:29 Premium $3.99 0:32 $1.40
15:20:01 Premium $3.99 2:41 $3.75
15:20:17 Premium $3.99 1:22 $1.91
15:21:30 Premium $3.99 2:13 $3.09
15:22:14 Premium $3.99 2:38 $3.68
15:22:45 Premium $3.99 3:18 $4.61
15:25:13 Premium $3.99 4:01 $5.61
15:26:00 Premium $3.99 1:31 $2.12
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15:32:13 Premium $3.99 2:29 $3.47
15:37:50 Exclusive $4.99 2:20 $4.07
15:43:29 Premium $3.99 1:21 $1.88
15:43:47 Premium $3.99 0:43 $1.40
15:44:02 Premium $3.99 1:36 $2.23
15:44:13 Premium $3.99 2:09 $3.00
15:45:27 Premium $3.99 3:15 $4.54
15:45:43 Premium $3.99 1:40 $2.33
15:46:20 Premium $3.99 2:00 $2.79
15:46:27 Premium $3.99 0:54 $1.40
15:49:24 Premium $3.99 2:31 $3.51
15:51:21 Premium $3.99 8:40 $12.10
15:51:25 Premium $3.99 0:50 $1.40
15:53:11 Premium $3.99 4:32 $6.33
15:53:18 Premium Block $3.99 15:00 $19.90
15:53:26 Premium $3.99 4:59 $6.96
15:57:57 Premium $3.99 6:19 $8.82
16:02:23 Premium $3.99 4:14 $5.91
16:07:10 Premium $3.99 1:34 $2.19
16:07:26 Premium $3.99 0:59 $1.40
16:08:16 Premium $3.99 2:28 $3.44
16:09:44 Premium $3.99 1:17 $1.79
16:12:17 Premium $3.99 3:57 $5.52
16:14:03 Premium $3.99 12:32 $17.50
16:15:02 Premium $3.99 0:31 $1.40
16:17:01 Premium $3.99 3:25 $4.77
16:20:00 Premium $3.99 3:05 $4.31
16:20:26 Premium $3.99 2:22 $3.30
16:31:23 Exclusive $4.99 8:44 $15.25
16:35:49 Exclusive $4.99 2:40 $4.65
16:48:09 Exclusive $4.99 10:21 $18.07
17:08:30 Exclusive $4.99 9:01 $15.75
17:13:07 Premium $3.99 2:29 $3.47
17:16:48 Premium $3.99 5:43 $7.98
17:18:57 Premium $3.99 3:02 $4.24
17:19:28 Premium $3.99 1:15 $1.74
17:22:07 Premium $3.99 1:43 $2.39
17:22:59 Premium $3.99 2:15 $3.14
17:23:04 Premium $3.99 8:37 $12.03
17:23:05 Premium $3.99 1:00 $1.40
17:28:16 Premium $3.99 2:25 $3.37
17:29:12 Premium $3.99 0:59 $1.40
17:29:34 Premium $3.99 3:58 $5.54
17:31:24 Premium $3.99 1:08 $1.58
17:32:27 Premium $3.99 0:58 $1.40
17:35:55 Premium $3.99 6:09 $8.59
17:49:55 Premium $3.99 1:13 $1.70
17:51:14 Premium $3.99 4:00 $5.59
17:51:40 Premium $3.99 4:31 $6.31
17:52:28 Premium $3.99 3:49 $5.33
17:58:50 Premium $3.99 0:52 $1.40
17:59:22 Premium $3.99 0:38 $1.40
17:59:47 Premium $3.99 1:36 $2.23
17:59:50 Premium $3.99 2:52 $4.00
18:00:52 Premium $3.99 1:50 $2.56
18:03:27 Premium $3.99 6:38 $9.26
18:05:13 Premium $3.99 2:13 $3.09
18:05:55 Premium $3.99 2:01 $2.81
18:12:29 Premium $3.99 1:06 $1.53
18:12:34 Premium $3.99 2:52 $3.87
18:24:56 Exclusive $4.99 4:25 $7.71
18:28:24 Premium $3.99 0:40 $1.40
18:30:13 Premium $3.99 1:57 $2.72
18:30:57 Premium $3.99 3:26 $4.79
18:35:27 Premium $3.99 0:51 $1.40
18:36:22 Premium $3.99 0:39 $1.40
18:36:46 Premium $3.99 1:33 $2.16
18:36:48 Premium $3.99 1:15 $1.74
18:38:37 Premium $3.99 4:39 $6.49
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15:28:36 Exclusive $4.99 1:29 $2.59
15:48:20 Exclusive $4.99 14:24 $25.15
15:49:56 Premium $3.99 0:35 $1.40
15:50:42 Premium $3.99 1:54 $2.65
15:50:53 Premium $3.99 1:18 $1.81
15:52:13 Premium $3.99 1:38 $2.28
15:54:18 Premium $3.99 2:41 $3.75
15:58:57 Premium $3.99 7:07 $9.94
15:59:05 Premium $3.99 0:45 $1.40
16:01:45 Premium $3.99 5:31 $7.70
16:05:09 Premium $3.99 7:29 $10.45
16:10:39 Premium $3.99 0:32 $1.40
16:11:23 Premium $3.99 1:06 $1.53
16:13:47 Premium $3.99 0:57 $1.40
16:16:00 Premium $3.99 21:42 $30.30
16:17:59 Premium $3.99 1:13 $1.70
16:19:48 Premium $3.99 2:47 $3.89
16:19:50 Premium $3.99 1:03 $1.46
16:21:30 Premium $3.99 4:24 $6.14
16:23:06 Premium $3.99 1:31 $2.12
16:23:12 Premium $3.99 2:28 $3.44
16:24:47 Premium $3.99 2:30 $3.49
16:31:15 Premium $3.99 11:55 $16.64
16:31:25 Premium $3.99 0:45 $1.40
16:32:14 Premium $3.99 2:16 $3.16
16:33:37 Premium $3.99 1:13 $1.70
16:38:48 Exclusive $4.99 3:24 $5.94
16:43:35 Premium $3.99 1:40 $2.33
16:44:09 Premium $3.99 2:28 $3.44
16:45:29 Premium $3.99 3:36 $5.03
16:53:00 Premium $3.99 1:53 $2.63
16:54:40 Premium $3.99 0:42 $1.40
17:01:47 Premium $3.99 0:39 $1.40
17:07:14 Premium $3.99 1:49 $2.53
17:07:53 Premium $3.99 2:20 $3.26
17:07:59 Premium $3.99 2:40 $3.72
17:09:47 Premium $3.99 1:07 $1.56
17:11:27 Premium $3.99 6:02 $8.42
17:16:47 Premium $3.99 4:42 $6.56
17:28:45 Premium $3.99 0:57 $1.40
17:28:52 Premium $3.99 0:56 $1.40
17:29:02 Premium $3.99 0:44 $1.40
17:29:37 Premium $3.99 2:50 $3.96
17:30:42 Premium $3.99 1:47 $2.49
17:30:57 Premium $3.99 2:23 $3.33
17:31:45 Premium $3.99 1:19 $1.84
17:32:30 Premium $3.99 3:25 $4.77
17:36:13 Premium $3.99 2:00 $2.79
17:36:21 Premium $3.99 0:46 $1.40
17:38:13 Premium $3.99 2:25 $3.37
17:38:37 Premium $3.99 2:06 $2.93
17:45:20 Premium $3.99 0:47 $1.40
17:45:38 Premium $3.99 2:24 $3.35
17:45:42 Premium $3.99 1:42 $2.37
17:46:00 Premium $3.99 0:34 $1.40
17:52:20 Premium $3.99 2:14 $3.12
17:52:29 Premium $3.99 0:34 $1.40
17:52:34 Premium $3.99 3:58 $5.54
17:53:14 Premium $3.99 7:00 $9.78
17:55:57 Premium $3.99 3:16 $4.56
17:58:12 Premium $3.99 0:56 $1.05
18:00:46 Premium $3.99 1:35 $2.21
18:00:59 Premium $3.99 1:20 $1.86
18:08:41 Premium $3.99 16:54 $23.60
18:09:22 Premium $3.99 0:50 $1.05
18:09:28 Premium $3.99 1:22 $1.91
18:10:53 Premium $3.99 0:52 $1.40
18:11:42 Premium $3.99 1:26 $2.00
18:13:28 Premium $3.99 3:35 $5.00
18:33:27 Exclusive $4.99 3:59 $6.95
18:37:31 Premium $3.99 0:50 $1.40
18:37:56 Premium $3.99 0:39 $1.40
18:40:05 Premium $3.99 1:32 $2.14
18:41:28 Premium $3.99 0:42 $1.40
18:41:45 Premium $3.99 5:43 $7.98
18:42:53 Premium $3.99 3:40 $5.12
18:43:03 Premium $3.99 1:12 $1.67
18:43:28 Premium $3.99 1:58 $2.74
18:45:13 Premium $3.99 0:46 $1.40
18:47:49 Premium $3.99 6:16 $8.75
18:48:43 Premium $3.99 2:52 $4.00
18:52:27 Premium $3.99 14:32 $20.29
19:04:08 Exclusive $4.99 6:02 $10.54
19:07:40 Premium $3.99 1:21 $1.88
19:22:25 Exclusive $4.99 11:46 $20.55

09/02/10 4.27 11 76 245:13 $373.73
Session Ended Type Price Chat Time Earned
16:04:19 Premium $3.99 1:07 $1.56
16:05:44 Premium $3.99 2:26 $3.40
16:08:12 Premium $3.99 1:25 $1.98
16:09:53 Premium $3.99 1:04 $1.49
16:13:03 Premium $3.99 0:49 $1.40
16:13:18 Premium $3.99 1:55 $2.67
16:20:37 Premium $3.99 13:10 $18.39
16:26:12 Premium $3.99 1:46 $2.46
16:27:20 Premium $3.99 1:07 $1.56
16:27:47 Premium $3.99 3:28 $4.84
16:28:07 Premium $3.99 1:29 $2.07
16:29:23 Premium $3.99 2:27 $3.42
16:38:46 Premium $3.99 13:58 $19.50
16:40:16 Premium $3.99 4:27 $6.21
17:00:24 Exclusive Block $4.99 15:42 $26.05
17:04:52 Premium $3.99 2:16 $3.16
17:06:18 Premium $3.99 3:02 $4.24
17:06:33 Premium $3.99 2:50 $3.96
17:12:58 Premium $3.99 2:27 $3.42
17:13:43 Premium $3.99 1:34 $2.19
17:14:00 Premium $3.99 0:54 $1.40
17:24:38 Exclusive $4.99 7:44 $13.50
17:30:53 Premium $3.99 2:02 $2.84
17:31:24 Premium $3.99 0:40 $1.40
17:32:44 Premium $3.99 4:05 $5.70
17:33:52 Premium $3.99 3:01 $4.21
17:34:51 Premium $3.99 3:36 $5.03
17:42:23 Premium $3.99 3:19 $4.63
17:43:33 Premium $3.99 2:26 $3.40
17:43:49 Premium $3.99 0:31 $1.40
17:45:36 Premium $3.99 6:57 $9.71
17:48:07 Premium $3.99 2:41 $3.75
17:50:00 Premium $3.99 2:12 $3.07
17:57:17 Premium $3.99 1:22 $1.91
17:58:01 Premium $3.99 1:43 $2.39
17:58:22 Premium $3.99 2:14 $3.12
18:01:23 Premium $3.99 5:22 $7.49
18:04:23 Premium $3.99 8:03 $11.24
18:19:13 GOLD $1.00 n/a $0.35
18:20:30 GOLD $1.00 n/a $0.35
18:23:08 Premium $3.99 0:54 $1.40
18:24:14 Premium $3.99 2:13 $3.09
18:26:55 Premium $3.99 0:55 $1.40
18:28:09 Premium $3.99 3:19 $4.63
18:30:36 Premium $3.99 3:14 $4.51
18:31:03 Premium $3.99 1:07 $1.56
18:32:23 Premium $3.99 1:22 $1.91
18:32:50 Premium $3.99 0:36 $1.40
18:33:38 GOLD $5.00 n/a $1.75
18:35:15 Premium $3.99 8:42 $12.15
18:35:21 Premium $3.99 2:37 $3.65
18:36:31 Premium Block $3.99 15:00 $19.90
18:40:24 Premium $3.99 0:32 $1.40
18:41:32 Premium $3.99 1:46 $2.46
18:42:42 Premium $3.99 0:37 $1.40
18:43:11 Premium $3.99 3:13 $4.49
18:48:13 Premium $3.99 2:29 $3.47
18:57:01 Premium $3.99 1:18 $1.81
18:58:46 Premium $3.99 0:34 $1.40
18:59:08 Premium $3.99 1:46 $2.46
19:08:51 Premium $3.99 5:00 $6.98
19:09:20 Premium $3.99 1:27 $2.02
19:13:52 Premium $3.99 0:45 $1.40
19:15:02 Premium $3.99 0:31 $1.40
19:15:23 Premium $3.99 1:55 $2.67
19:16:50 Premium $3.99 3:57 $5.52
19:28:21 Premium $3.99 1:08 $1.58
19:28:50 Premium $3.99 3:30 $4.89
19:29:21 Premium $3.99 1:18 $1.81
19:32:46 Premium $3.99 8:52 $12.38
19:33:18 Premium $3.99 1:40 $2.33
19:33:48 Premium $3.99 6:24 $8.94
19:35:52 Paysite $29.99 n/a $13.80
19:37:32 Premium $3.99 7:25 $10.36
19:43:21 Exclusive $4.99 4:16 $7.45
20:06:56 Exclusive $4.99 7:30 $13.10
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01:27:53 Exclusive $4.99 1:17 $2.24
01:34:06 Exclusive $4.99 4:54 $8.56
01:42:38 Premium $3.99 1:11 $1.65
01:43:38 Premium $3.99 1:51 $2.58
01:43:47 Premium $3.99 3:44 $5.21
01:44:11 Premium $3.99 1:04 $1.49
01:44:39 Premium $3.99 5:05 $7.10
14:48:36 Premium $3.99 1:17 $1.79
14:49:14 Premium $3.99 2:46 $3.86
14:49:15 Premium $3.99 1:18 $1.81
14:53:39 Premium $3.99 0:53 $1.40
14:55:11 Premium $3.99 0:44 $1.40
14:55:36 Premium $3.99 1:58 $2.74
14:55:51 Premium $3.99 0:59 $1.40
14:55:59 Premium $3.99 1:28 $2.05
15:01:38 Premium $3.99 9:03 $12.64
15:03:33 Premium $3.99 0:56 $1.40
15:03:34 Premium $3.99 3:50 $5.35
15:08:30 Premium $3.99 3:56 $5.49
15:15:49 Exclusive $4.99 6:18 $11.00
15:19:50 Premium $3.99 1:55 $2.67
15:20:13 Premium $3.99 0:42 $1.40
15:22:29 Premium $3.99 1:12 $1.67
15:23:58 GOLD $1.00 n/a $0.35
15:25:40 Premium $3.99 1:58 $2.74
15:26:34 GOLD $1.00 n/a $0.35
15:29:04 Premium $3.99 1:34 $2.19
15:31:32 Premium $3.99 5:32 $7.72
15:35:42 Premium $3.99 0:49 $1.40
15:38:51 Premium $3.99 6:49 $9.52
15:39:21 Premium $3.99 0:59 $1.40
15:40:10 Premium $3.99 5:19 $7.32
15:40:52 Premium $3.99 0:59 $1.40
15:42:16 Premium $3.99 0:59 $1.40
15:45:41 GOLD $10.00 n/a $3.50
15:50:43 Premium $3.99 1:04 $1.49
15:52:49 Premium $3.99 6:17 $8.77
15:57:09 Premium $3.99 1:39 $2.30
15:57:38 Premium $3.99 1:00 $1.40
16:03:59 Premium $3.99 0:57 $1.40
16:04:06 Premium $3.99 1:09 $1.60
16:05:19 Premium Block $3.99 15:00 $19.90
16:06:36 Premium $3.99 1:21 $1.88
16:06:48 Premium $3.99 1:28 $2.05
16:09:01 Premium $3.99 1:27 $2.02
16:12:06 Premium $3.99 4:40 $6.52
16:15:21 Premium $3.99 4:16 $5.96
16:20:40 Premium $3.99 0:41 $1.40
16:27:27 Exclusive $4.99 3:36 $6.29
16:31:08 Exclusive $4.99 2:27 $4.28
16:36:03 Premium $3.99 1:38 $2.28
16:42:29 Premium $3.99 1:24 $1.95
16:42:32 Premium $3.99 0:44 $1.40
16:42:41 Premium $3.99 1:01 $1.42
16:43:21 Premium $3.99 2:32 $3.54
16:43:59 Premium $3.99 2:01 $2.81
16:45:28 Premium $3.99 2:11 $3.05
16:45:58 Premium $3.99 1:07 $1.56
16:46:06 Premium $3.99 4:23 $6.12
16:47:36 Premium $3.99 1:32 $2.14
16:47:37 Premium $3.99 0:52 $1.40
16:48:07 Premium $3.99 1:56 $2.70
16:48:14 Premium $3.99 1:14 $1.72
17:02:56 Exclusive $4.99 2:41 $4.68
17:04:26 Premium $3.99 0:33 $1.40
17:06:15 Premium $3.99 1:44 $2.42
17:06:30 Premium $3.99 2:49 $3.93
17:07:24 Premium $3.99 1:06 $1.53
17:20:12 GOLD $1.00 n/a $0.35
17:26:54 Premium $3.99 2:04 $2.88
17:30:17 Premium $3.99 1:08 $1.58
17:30:55 Premium $3.99 4:53 $6.81
17:31:28 Premium $3.99 1:02 $1.44
17:32:30 Premium $3.99 1:51 $2.58
17:50:02 Exclusive $4.99 3:14 $5.65
17:54:23 Premium $3.99 1:18 $1.81
17:54:28 Premium $3.99 0:48 $1.40
17:54:33 Premium $3.99 2:00 $2.79
17:54:57 Premium $3.99 1:54 $2.65
17:54:58 Premium $3.99 2:01 $2.81
17:55:17 Premium $3.99 1:57 $2.72
17:55:36 Premium $3.99 2:06 $2.93
17:55:41 Premium $3.99 2:01 $2.81
17:55:43 Premium $3.99 3:03 $4.26
17:55:47 Premium $3.99 1:01 $1.42
17:55:55 Premium $3.99 1:09 $1.60
17:56:25 Premium $3.99 0:39 $1.40
17:56:33 Premium $3.99 3:47 $5.28
18:03:59 Premium $3.99 2:46 $3.86
18:04:53 Premium $3.99 1:53 $2.63
18:05:03 Premium $3.99 1:26 $2.00
18:13:31 Premium $3.99 0:40 $1.40
18:15:17 Premium $3.99 0:45 $1.40
18:17:13 Premium $3.99 2:57 $4.12
18:18:58 Premium $3.99 13:49 $19.29
18:19:10 Premium $3.99 1:37 $2.26

09/04/10 5.00 1 15 53:44 $87.01
Session Ended Type Price Chat Time Earned
08:48:11 Exclusive $4.99 4:06 $7.16
08:55:06 Exclusive $4.99 4:59 $8.70
09:00:34 Premium $3.99 2:12 $3.07
09:01:13 Premium $3.99 0:34 $1.40
09:02:57 Premium $3.99 0:33 $1.40
09:03:15 Premium $3.99 4:14 $5.91
09:07:05 Premium $3.99 3:09 $4.40
09:08:41 Premium $3.99 1:50 $2.56
09:09:18 Premium $3.99 0:59 $1.40
09:12:14 Premium $3.99 1:19 $1.84
09:14:27 Premium $3.99 2:25 $3.37
09:15:16 Premium $3.99 2:00 $2.79
09:18:56 Premium $3.99 3:50 $5.35
09:27:03 Exclusive $4.99 5:24 $9.43
09:44:42 Exclusive $4.99 16:10 $28.23

Total: 4.54 50 458 1352:31 $2003.16
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who the fuck you kidding, if you had just 8 people in private together for 30 mins that would be $3.99 x 240 minutes = $957.60 x.35% = $335 more then you said she makes in 3-4 hours.

You making yourself look more and more like an idiot to make it sound like she has 5-15 people on at one time often. First it was "USUALLY" now its any given "MOMENT" for a couple seconds... Probably more like once a twice a day for a couple minutes 5+ people pop on and then leave, apparently because if she had that many people on for even 10 or 20 mins simultaneously she would make more in those couple mins then what you claim she makes in 3-4 hours. Doesn't add up. wow even with the 30 second breaks??? lol

Even an amateur cam person can smell your self inflating ego bullshit bragging a mile away. There has been more than a few people who understand cams pointing out your bs shit and ignorance in this thread, but you right, you cracked it. Claudia is the hottest babe on the net, MFC doesn't work because her 2 hour test didn't make more than streamates, you were too stupid to factor in REGULARS you built up on streamates vs trying a new site out for the very first time with no regulars.

You could get a ton of helpfull advice in this thread that could make you more money, just like in another thread where you found out paying 35% credit card processing fees was over paying and you were able to save some money. You could make money if you fucking listened to people, but instead CM is great, everyone else is stupid. blah blah Do me a favor, you are truely an hardheaded idiot who is helpless....add me to your esteemed ignore list please.




The extra .40 i left off doesn't make much of a difference at all, she still only manages a little over 1 person paying in private at a time. And if she has 5-10 people at a time for a couple minutes then there is several minutes that she has no one on.


It's simple math you don't need to know shit about webcams...I'll do it to the penny with a calculator to be "exact" for everyone because OMG if I round it to a $1 because I was too lazy to break out the calculator then Robbie is shocked that I am so stupid because webcams is my field... fucking idiot.... calculator out, everyone taking notes???: 60 minutes in an hour. To make a profit of $100 an hour she needs to gross $285.75 an hour. (35% of 285.75 = $100.01) $285.75 / 60 mins = $4.76 a minute of gross sales, which if people are paying $3.99 a minute that is an average of a little more than 1 person at a time. If she has multiple people even just 2,3,4,5 people (much less 15 lol) on at the same time for even a short people of time then that means she would have to sit idle a decent amount of time as well. Or she would be making a lot more than $100 an hour her cut. Peddle that bullshit somewhere else. Simple fucking math. Even with the "30 seconds" breaks... LOL yes Robbie, those 30 seconds breaks, add up!!! let me tell you, if she did 20 individual sessions over the 4 hours that would add up to a whopping 10 mins of the 240 minutes.... staggering... i guess those couple missing 30 second breaks explained it all, like it was the answer to the Bermuda triangle or something. Silly me, I should have accounted for those 30 second breaks....
Having been a cam performer, it's weird how things add up.

Problem with a math formula is that people don't always stay in for exact minute amounts - it's never a solid 1 minute or 4 minutes or 20 minutes unless they buy a block of time. It's always some weird number and you'll have overlapping shows in premium which skews any formula.

Not taking either side, but there really isn't a way to say "If performer A works X number of hours at Y per hour, she will make Z"
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Having been a cam performer, it's weird how things add up.

Problem with a math formula is that people don't always stay in for exact minute amounts - it's never a solid 1 minute or 4 minutes or 20 minutes unless they buy a block of time. It's always some weird number and you'll have overlapping shows in premium which skews any formula.

Not taking either side, but there really isn't a way to say "If performer A works X number of hours at Y per hour, she will make Z"
the math is solid, but then again I am using Robbie's figures. If he says she makes $100 an hour her cut and she works 4 hours. Then you have 2 of the 3 variables to determine an "average per minute" . It just an average, she won't have exactly 1.3 people on at all times. But it just shows how much bullshit it is that he is trying to say "at any moment she USUALLY has 5 - 15 people in private" at $3.99 a minute, when you start doing that x 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 etc people it adds up really really fast. You going to reach your $100 per hour you claim you make in just a couple mins with that many people on at a time. Its just totally bullshit and talking out of his ass as usual.


Oh look 10 pages of stats from August/Sept... Always funny when someone posts stats from 3-4 months ago as an "example" why not last weeks stats? got to go back 4 months to hand pick the best ones ? lol. And no one was questioning if she profited $100 an hour, I was only calling your bullshit for the 5-15 people on at a time.... Simple fucking math disproved that bullshit....



claudia marie.


speaking of claudia-marie.... Robbie claims he never ever (ever) lost 1 person because of the hyphen in the domain. Ever. more wisdom from a dumb ass. For 1 how would he know, and 2 to say you never lost 1 person ever from that is just fucking retarded. Maybe you only lost a small percent but not 1 person...
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Webcam girls are doing LOTS OF MONEY... Some chicks there make 30K per month.. insane..

2010 was the year of RICH WEBCAM Girls and Broken Adult Webmasters trying to get a sale in cams.. but its impossible due to the MACH 3 in 99% of cam sponsors where you will get 0:30,000... trying to compete with illegal file sharing sites and illegal forums.....

I can't believe men are so dumb to pay so much money on a pixelated cam.. man.. you can get real girls for far less money.. and better looking ones...


would be cool to make a blog warning people to stop paying for AWE and livejasmin. If I cant prevent 1 guy to pay for livejasmin Im happy.. Awe really sucks.. they support illegal sites.. DAVE AWE go fuck yourself.. I would pay to meet you on the next convention and punch your face, ASSHOLE.


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I just browsed their Asian section.

Not very impressed but hey it's free.
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You've also got to take into consideration free time vs paid time. If he's talking about paid time, it's possible. If it's total stream time that's a totally different scenario.

I have definitely seen 15 people in a paid room at one time. I've also just seen 1-2.
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Webcam girls are doing LOTS OF MONEY... Some chicks there make 30K per month.. insane..

2010 was the year of RICH WEBCAM Girls and Broken Adult Webmasters trying to get a sale in cams.. but its impossible due to the MACH 3 in 99% of cam sponsors where you will get 0:30,000... trying to compete with illegal file sharing sites and illegal forums.....

I can't believe men are so dumb to pay so much money on a pixelated cam.. man.. you can get real girls for far less money.. and better looking ones...


would be cool to make a blog warning people to stop paying for AWE and livejasmin. If I cant prevent 1 guy to pay for livejasmin Im happy.. Awe really sucks.. they support illegal sites.. DAVE AWE go fuck yourself.. I would pay to meet you on the next convention and punch your face, ASSHOLE.


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There are way to many factors involved to determine what cam system is better than the rest.
Some cam systems you make instant Great money for a couple weeks because you are new.
Some cam systems you have to learn how to work, and explore all the ways to make money.
Keep in mind trying a new cam system will almost never be as good as one you have been on and have a customer base.
With all the percent's, price per minutes, amount of people in a private, cam shows with PayPal and yahoo, selling things, and memberships,
the best way to even get a close idea is the size of your check at the end of the week and amount of time worked to get that.

Robbie, I use to know of a cam site that was only for $5k deposits or more. This cam system was Very Private, thus no Credit cards were used, and
the company name was a consulting one. Lots of big business men wrote Company checks to this, as well as other means.

This MFC is a very interesting way to cam. I wish I was a young female, and could hustle! They are selling toy or fuck videos for 300+ tokens, just the cam girls cut of $.05 is almost the amount of a membership to a solo site.

We use to think dinner and a movie, then some drinks was to much to spend on a girl to get laid. Now you spend hundreds to look at a shitty webcam, only to jack your dick off.

Again, if I was an attractive female....

PS MFC is for the younger slim slender amateur girl next door to hot cheer leader type of site for the most part.
If you look like what I described and are either a complete air head or play the part, like to work, you have it made on mfc.
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You've also got to take into consideration free time vs paid time. If he's talking about paid time, it's possible. If it's total stream time that's a totally different scenario.

I have definitely seen 15 people in a paid room at one time. I've also just seen 1-2.
She is in paid almost the entire time. Every once in a GREAT while she might be out in public for 3 minutes max. But the majority of time she is in private. As are most of those girls in the porn star section And you're right. I never said there were 15 guys in there all the time. I gave a low to high figure of 5 to 15 on average at any given moment.

But some of the people on here have severe comprehension problems. That's why I put up that LOOOONNNNGGG stupid copy paste of a weeks worth of stats. If I hadn't put will on ignore... I suppose my next move would have been to break out crayons and cardboard paper and type slower.

I'll reiterate: CM usually works 3 to 4 hours a day total. Paid and free. Her only goal is to make $400 each day. And try to put in 5 days as time permits. Sometimes she is done in 21/2 hours. Sometimes 4 1/2 to 5 hours just depending on the crowd.

The charge is $3.99 for private. $4.99 for exclusive blocks. There is also "tipping". And there are also paysite sales to claudia-marie.com with a one click join right off her cam page.

We have many, many things and responsibilities we each do everyday and so therefore we made a $400 "goal" for each day culminating in a $2,000 week each week. It's nice extra money.

Why on God's earth will decided to call me a liar over pocket change...I have no idea. But he always seems to want to fight with me. So now he's on ignore and I hope he's happy. And remember will...that "ignore" is a two-way street. You can put me on it if it's so horrible for you to read about actual experience in this business as opposed to people theorizing.

Only on GFY could a guy tell what his experience from watching his wife's shows and stats are would be called "lies" while everybody else reading a wikipedia page put up by MFC themselves is quoted as gospel. Only here does that kind of bizarro shit hold water. lol
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You've also got to take into consideration free time vs paid time. If he's talking about paid time, it's possible. If it's total stream time that's a totally different scenario.

I have definitely seen 15 people in a paid room at one time. I've also just seen 1-2.
you still don't get it. I never said it was impossible to have that many people on at one time. He said private by the way paying $3.99 a minute. 15 people paying in private chat paying $3.99 a minute at the same time, very rare.

I said his numbers simply don't add up. According to Robbie, she makes $100 an hour, she charges $3.99 a minute and it is "not unusual for her to have 5 - 15 people in private at any moment".
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Keep in mind trying a new cam system will almost never be as good as one you have been on and have a customer base..

pointed out by a few people including myself and ignored several times by Robbie. If Claudia makes what he claims on Streamates she has a nice base of regulars. He goes and tries MFC for 2 hours and makes a little less and doesn't take into account that the longer she works there the more regulars she would get. He is a retarded. So he dicks around in a couple girls rooms for a couple hours, doesn't see any spending and that is proof to him that the site sucks, because ClaudiaMarie.com makes more money on streamates vs MFC.

Typical Robbie, knows it all... never wrong even when everyone else who knows more than him tries to explain it to him.
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She is in paid almost the entire time. Every once in a GREAT while she might be out in public for 3 minutes max. But the majority of time she is in private. As are most of those girls in the porn star section And you're right. I never said there were 15 guys in there all the time. I gave a low to high figure of 5 to 15 on average at any given moment.

But some of the people on here have severe comprehension problems. That's why I put up that LOOOONNNNGGG stupid copy paste of a weeks worth of stats. If I hadn't put will on ignore... I suppose my next move would have been to break out crayons and cardboard paper and type slower.

I'll reiterate: CM usually works 3 to 4 hours a day total. Paid and free. Her only goal is to make $400 each day. And try to put in 5 days as time permits. Sometimes she is done in 21/2 hours. Sometimes 4 1/2 to 5 hours just depending on the crowd.

The charge is $3.99 for private. $4.99 for exclusive blocks. There is also "tipping". And there are also paysite sales to claudia-marie.com with a one click join right off her cam page.

We have many, many things and responsibilities we each do everyday and so therefore we made a $400 "goal" for each day culminating in a $2,000 week each week. It's nice extra money.

Why on God's earth will decided to call me a liar over pocket change...I have no idea. But he always seems to want to fight with me. So now he's on ignore and I hope he's happy. And remember will...that "ignore" is a two-way street. You can put me on it if it's so horrible for you to read about actual experience in this business as opposed to people theorizing.

Only on GFY could a guy tell what his experience from watching his wife's shows and stats are would be called "lies" while everybody else reading a wikipedia page put up by MFC themselves is quoted as gospel. Only here does that kind of bizarro shit hold water. lol
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She is in paid almost the entire time. Every once in a GREAT while she might be out in public for 3 minutes max. But the majority of time she is in private. As are most of those girls in the porn star section And you're right. I never said there were 15 guys in there all the time. I gave a low to high figure of 5 to 15 on average at any given moment.

But some of the people on here have severe comprehension problems. That's why I put up that LOOOONNNNGGG stupid copy paste of a weeks worth of stats. If I hadn't put will on ignore... I suppose my next move would have been to break out crayons and cardboard paper and type slower.

I'll reiterate: CM usually works 3 to 4 hours a day total. Paid and free. Her only goal is to make $400 each day. And try to put in 5 days as time permits. Sometimes she is done in 21/2 hours. Sometimes 4 1/2 to 5 hours just depending on the crowd.

The charge is $3.99 for private. $4.99 for exclusive blocks. There is also "tipping". And there are also paysite sales to claudia-marie.com with a one click join right off her cam page.

We have many, many things and responsibilities we each do everyday and so therefore we made a $400 "goal" for each day culminating in a $2,000 week each week. It's nice extra money.

Why on God's earth will decided to call me a liar over pocket change...I have no idea. But he always seems to want to fight with me. So now he's on ignore and I hope he's happy. And remember will...that "ignore" is a two-way street. You can put me on it if it's so horrible for you to read about actual experience in this business as opposed to people theorizing.

Only on GFY could a guy tell what his experience from watching his wife's shows and stats are would be called "lies" while everybody else reading a wikipedia page put up by MFC themselves is quoted as gospel. Only here does that kind of bizarro shit hold water. lol
It's posts like that one that are why people are confused.

Please come back with a post that doesn't make perfect sense and try again.

You're totally right though. And it's SUPER hard for people to understand unless they're doing it themselves or have access to a studios logs including schedules.

No sense in arguing though, just keep doing what you're doing and just say "okay you're right" and keep collecting checks hah.
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you still don't get it. I never said it was impossible to have that many people on at one time. He said private by the way paying $3.99 a minute. 15 people paying in private chat paying $3.99 a minute at the same time, very rare.

I said his numbers simply don't add up. According to Robbie, she makes $100 an hour, she charges $3.99 a minute and it is "not unusual for her to have 5 - 15 people in private at any moment".
You don't have to take everything so literally.
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yeah may bad, he said 5-15 but meant 1-2, my bad silly me for taking everything so literally.
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yeah may bad, he said 5-15 but meant 1-2, my bad silly me for taking everything so literally.
I'll try to clarify what I'm saying:

You could have 20 people in your room at one time, with your earnings being 1 dollar and only make 2 dollars per minute.

Steamate doesn't charge you if you're in the room for less than a certain amount of time. I believe it's 30 seconds or thereabouts.

One of the last times I was on cam the girl and I were in paid chat for about 10 minutes with people constantly coming in and out of the room - when we checked our earnings after that first show - it was something like 3 dollars, and we were charging 4.99 a minute. We EASILY had 5 people in there at one time during that specific time-frame, but not all of them stayed long enough to be charged.

So like I said before, the math isn't perfect. Not everyone in a room (in a pay-per-minute situation) is being charged. Some people will pop into a room without seeing the person in free, and if they don't like what's going on (say they want to see the girl getting fucked and not sucking dick or something) they'll leave before they're charged.

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You think girls aren't making bank on MFC? Explain why there are so many hot girls on there... Certain girls that have fans and know how to work it... RAKE on MFC.

This chick I know Sammie Rhodes - isn't super hot to shoot.. but just KILLS it on MFC..go figure.
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This thread is still going on? I already said stuff pages ago about this.. Robbie i know CM is hot but remember that just cuz she CANT do it doesnt mean some cam girls on MFC dont make thousands in an hour.. just saying it happens

P/S yeah the guy who said Leo is rich is right.. he just bought a $2mil+ crib, and last i talked to him online he was happy and balling, so i guess something is working for him..

Also MFC has Alexa of 445, basically godlike traffic, and u dont think there are tons of people there spending their money?
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You think girls aren't making bank on MFC? Explain why there are so many hot girls on there... Certain girls that have fans and know how to work it... RAKE on MFC.

This chick I know Sammie Rhodes - isn't super hot to shoot.. but just KILLS it on MFC..go figure.
exactly, ive said this over and over.. heck i made a post in june about sitting there amazed at some girl who just made $1k in <1hr just by working the room..

She sold her vids, She said "tip if u wanna fuck my pussy", and that one line there netted her like 500 USD$+, etc

the good girls there make upwards over $1k/day easily
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Oh shit! I just went over there again and started watching the second girl on there "KellyHeart"
Still no tips. ZERO.
556 people in the room.

And here is her "Topic" post to everyone on there:
"Topic: beggars & assholes please effff off and have a nice day "

Wow. Very professional. These girls really know how to work it.
She got a 100k tip a few months ago I think, on her birthday, along with a number of other sizeable tips that day. If you're right in that CM makes $2,000 a week, then that 100k tip alone means you could see her dead otherwise for 17 days and she would have still made about as much as CM in that timespan. The Miss MFC award every month is based on how many tokens of tip the girls get, and considering that girl obviously got more in tips than just that one, she wasn't even in the top 10 if I recall. In fact, that had happened in the early part of the month, and she was #1 for maybe a few days before other girls caught up with her. I had been following the site somewhat for about a month or two before that and was shocked by that - I had assumed the top girls MAYBE averaged 5k tokens a day, but after that it was clear that it's more likely 20k-30k a day or possibly more.

The girls that make the most on MFC cultivate relationships with whales. A lot of these models get tips even when they're NOT online, and not just selling their videos n' shit. They are crafty and do things like hold raffles for prizes and double the amount of tix if it's an offline tip, play a game like Twister but have the guy pay to choose X hand X color, the whole countdown to show, highest tipper of the day award, etc. I saw KristyLive clear $1,500, probably even $2K in only a couple hours at the end of a month. 2 guys fighting to get the high tip ultimately got into the high X,XXX tip range if I recall correctly, beating out at least 5 or so other people who had already put in X,XXX tips as well. The funny thing was she was #7 in MFC voting at the beginning of that night, and stayed there despite that crazy take. I know in total she cleared over 30k tokens that night.

That girl Mila with the highest tip ever has some of the most rabid whales imaginable. That may be one tip, but she probably has at least a handful if not more of people who've dropped 500k+ total in tips on her. It's fucking insane! She rarely goes more than 10 mins in public without getting 500-5000 tips.

Yes though, it amazes me how many girls seemingly sit there for hours lucky to make a could hundred tokens an hour, though usually just about any girl there gets SOME private time now and then. I have no idea how many people end up doing the "spying" on private shows for the top models but if a model with 1500 in her room goes private, I wouldn't be surprised if a good lot of them goes to look, especially if they're devoted fans.

It's really a strip club atmosphere there...there's the ballers and the likely sick-in-the-head devotees there who are hopeless and blow paychecks on these girls. It's one of the most intriguing sites I've ever seen.
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Yeah now PornMD posted i just remembered watching this girl do this card game... where if she picks a red faced card she wins, if she picks black then you win and she says ur name and blows a kiss to you and says she loves u.. 2000 tokens to play.. and guys were lined up. lmao

Now i remember it was also lovelykittie doing that.. funny as hell watching these dudes
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clue number one - the guys tip to get the attention of girls and hopefully their cell number...happens all the time - first some nice tips, then you're buying your girl (or yourself) a plane ticket...

this is the difference between MFC and Streammate and the others - customers are fucking the models...

Of course most guys fail in their fruitless attempts to pursue the girls, but many succeed and this isn't speculation.
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Yeah now PornMD posted i just remembered watching this girl do this card game... where if she picks a red faced card she wins, if she picks black then you win and she says ur name and blows a kiss to you and says she loves u.. 2000 tokens to play.. and guys were lined up. lmao

Now i remember it was also lovelykittie doing that.. funny as hell watching these dudes
$200 or so for that...lol, just insane. That's why that site intrigues me. One of the girls I always see high in MFC standings is that Shyteenn girl (who changed her name recently). I was shocked...every single time I went to her room, she was sitting there pretty much typing in the room. Clothes on, barely even spoke if at all. She practically looked bored the whole time. Guys would just tip her. I don't know why...not even sure most of them have even seen her naked other than whatever's on her profile. It's like if this site and these girls can get dudes to spray money for pretty much nothing, what the fuck is porn doing wrong?!
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Old 12-07-2010, 03:23 AM   #194
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its a virtual strip club..

same reason some strippers come on stage and guys throw $$$ for nothing.lol

ego stuff
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Old 12-07-2010, 03:39 AM   #195
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I'll try to clarify what I'm saying:

You could have 20 people in your room at one time, with your earnings being 1 dollar and only make 2 dollars per minute.

Steamate doesn't charge you if you're in the room for less than a certain amount of time. I believe it's 30 seconds or thereabouts.

One of the last times I was on cam the girl and I were in paid chat for about 10 minutes with people constantly coming in and out of the room - when we checked our earnings after that first show - it was something like 3 dollars, and we were charging 4.99 a minute. We EASILY had 5 people in there at one time during that specific time-frame, but not all of them stayed long enough to be charged.

So like I said before, the math isn't perfect. Not everyone in a room (in a pay-per-minute situation) is being charged. Some people will pop into a room without seeing the person in free, and if they don't like what's going on (say they want to see the girl getting fucked and not sucking dick or something) they'll leave before they're charged.

I would dispute that based on Robbie's copy and paste. It looks as though there is a minimum charge of 1 minute regardless of whether they are in and out in less than a minute.

No sensible cam site would operate as you suggest with a 30 second free preview where you are not billed !!

If there is something more potentially abusable than that, I don't know what it is.
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Old 12-07-2010, 04:24 AM   #196
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I would dispute that based on Robbie's copy and paste. It looks as though there is a minimum charge of 1 minute regardless of whether they are in and out in less than a minute.

No sensible cam site would operate as you suggest with a 30 second free preview where you are not billed !!

If there is something more potentially abusable than that, I don't know what it is.
I didn't go through every single one of the sessions but I didn't see one that was under 0:30 ... go on there yourself and try it out.

I'm not spewing shit as a potential affiliate or someone going on the site and looking... I have been on the performer side and am a studio owner so my word may or may not have more credibility than the next guy because I have seen my own earnings and can see the earnings of my models.

I did have one girl try out MFC and she did okay, her first time on any cam ever and she made about $60 an hour all said and done over her first week. She went on streamate and everything was MUCH easier, from earning money to knowing how much she's earned without busting out a calculator.

As said above, MFC works just like a strip club does -

You'll get people come in occasionally and throw a bunch of money on stage, which is cool.

Then you'll get the "whales" or the regulars at clubs that will come in and take a girl to the VIP the whole night for 2k or so, either getting dances or buying allotted time with them.

I have run strip clubs for the last 3 years if that's any consolation.
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Old 12-07-2010, 05:40 AM   #197
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just track this girl when she comes online

http://profiles.myfreecams.com/LovelyKittie

watch her for 2-3hrs, and see how she rolls

the good girls have few guys who LOVE THEM and drop 1000 tips like its nothing
Owww, my eyes. That's like a bad myspace page, I had to highlight the some of the text just to read it... and it took me a while to figure out where that stupid autostart music was coming from!

She is damn hot though. Check what she can do.



Haven't seen her online yet.
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Old 12-07-2010, 05:52 AM   #198
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Talk about an almost useless argument...
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Old 12-07-2010, 06:03 AM   #199
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Can't believe Robbie has let all this cloud his thinking.

Robbie Teens are the biggest niche in porn by far and away. Maybe not for some individuals but it's still the biggest niche. Far bigger than Big Tit MILF.

Just because you and CM can't make MFC work doesn't mean others can't.

Just because you and CM can make more money else where doesn't mean other models can.

You're showing up your basic knowledge of how business works and your understanding of it.
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Old 12-07-2010, 06:05 AM   #200
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When the Adult Net was in it's infancy, many were learning their way and speeds were crap.

And no competition from free porn.

So who has tried it today?
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