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12-02-2010, 05:51 AM
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Consensual sex in Sweden without a condom is Rape
This is a very interesting article about what happened to Julian Assange in Sweden....
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/12/02/...they-go-along/ |
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12-02-2010, 05:59 AM
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Story gets more and more ridiculous.
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by Melbourne barrister James D. Catlin Apparently having consensual s-x in Sweden without a condom is punishable by a term of imprisonment of a minimum of two years for r-pe. That is the basis for a reinstitution of r-pe charges against WikiLeaks figurehead Julian Assange that is destined to make Sweden and its justice system the laughing stock of the world and dramatically damage its reputation as a model of modernity. Sweden’s Public Prosecutor’s Office was embarrassed in August this year when it leaked to the media that it was seeking to arrest Assange for r-pe, then on the same day withdrew the arrest warrant because in its own words there was “no evidence”. The damage to Assange’s reputation is incalculable. More than three quarters of internet references to his name refer to r-pe. Now, three months on and three prosecutors later, the Swedes seem to be clear on their basis to proceed. Consensual s-x that started out with a condom ended up without one, ergo, the s-x was not consensual. For three months Assange had been waiting in vain to hear whether media statements by and for the two female “victims” that there was no fear or violence were going to be embellished so the charges might be carried forward due to greater seriousness. Such statements would stop a r-pe charge in any Western country dead in its tracks. R-pe is a crime of violence, duress or deception. You can r-pe someone by deluding them into thinking you are someone else or by drugging them or by reason of their young age but essentially it’s a crime of violence. The women here are near to and over 30 and have international experience, some of it working in Swedish government embassies. There is no suggestion of drugs nor identity concealment. Far from it. Both women boasted of their celebrity connection to Assange after the events that they would now see him destroyed for. That further evidence hasn’t been confected to make the charges less absurd does Sweden no credit because it has no choice in the matter. The phenomena of social networking through the internet and mobile phones constrains Swedish authorities from augmenting the evidence against Assange because it would look even less credible in the face of tweets by Anna Ardin and SMS texts by Sofia Wilén boasting of their respective conquests after the “crimes”. In the case of Ardin it is clear that she has thrown a party in Assange’s honour at her flat after the “crime” and tweeted to her followers that she is with the “the world’s coolest smartest people, it’s amazing!”. Go on the internet and see for yourself. That Ardin has sought unsuccessfully to delete these exculpatory tweets from the public record should be a matter of grave concern. That she has published on the internet a guide on how to get revenge on cheating boyfriends ever graver. The exact content of Wilén’s mobile phone texts is not yet known but their bragging and exculpatory character has been confirmed by Swedish prosecutors. Niether Wilén’s nor Ardin’s texts complain of r-pe. But then neither Arden nor Wilén complained to the police but rather “sought advice”, a technique in Sweden enabling citizens to avoid just punishment for making false complaints. They sought advice together, having collaborated and irrevocably tainted each other’s evidence beforehand. Their SMS texts to each other show a plan to contact the Swedish newspaper Expressen beforehand in order to maximise the damage to Assange. They belong to the same political group and attended a public lecture given by Assange and organised by them. You can see Wilén on the YouTube video of the event even now. Of course, their celebrity lawyer Claes Borgström was questioned as to how the women themselves could be essentially contradicting the legal characterisation of Swedish prosecutors; a crime of non-consent by consent. Borgström’s answer is emblematic of how divorced from reality this matter is. “They (the women) are not jurists”. You need a law degree to know whether you have been r-ped or not in Sweden. In the context of such double think, the question of how the Swedish authorities propose to deal with victims who neither saw themselves as such nor acted as such is easily answered: You’re not a Swedish lawyer so you wouldn’t understand anyway. The consent of both women to s-x with Assange has been confirmed by prosecutors. Proposed reforms of Swedish r-pe laws would introduce a test of whether the unequal power relations between the parties might void the sincerely expressed consent of one party. In this case, presumably, the politically active Ardin, with experience fielding gender equity complaints as a gender equity officer at Uppsala University, had her will suborned by Assange’s celebrity. The prosecutor coming as she does from a prosecution “Development Unit” could achieve this broadening of the law during Assange’s trial so he can be convicted of a crime that didn’t exist at the time he allegedly committed it. She would need to. There is no precedent for it. The Swedes are making it up as they go along. A great deal more damning evidence is yet to be revealed about what passes for legal process in Sweden, such as Assange’s lawyers having not received a single official document until November 18, 2010 (and then in Swedish language contrary to European Law) and having to learn about the status of investigations through prosecution media announcements but make no mistake: it is not Julian Assange that is on trial here but Sweden and its reputation as a modern and model country with rules of law. |
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yes read that women who made claims in super-feminist from a weird christian cult and yes the main complaint was that he didn't not want to use a condom.
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Most women feel raped when I just take a glance at them...
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12-02-2010, 07:43 AM
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They better get busy taking down all that rape porn on the net then...
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12-02-2010, 07:54 AM
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Common... I've watched a few interviews with Assange. This is not the face and words of man that would rape anyone. This is all bullshit and fake. Assange is a righteous man.
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12-02-2010, 07:58 AM
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12-02-2010, 08:07 AM
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You guys do realize that this has nothing to do with the legal system in Sweden and everything to do with the US putting major press on the Swedish government about Assange to continue be wanted. If The Swedish court let's him off the suspected "rape" he is no longer wanted by interpool. It's the Swedish government that is corrupted and is folding to the "big boys".
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12-02-2010, 08:18 AM
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i agree. Julian Assange is the first real journalist since Roger Casement a hundred years ago. He had a smear campaign against him too. Most of the wikileaks stuff was nothing anyone couldn't figure out for themselves anyway.
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12-02-2010, 09:20 AM
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an international warrant for a quirk in a law? how did they prove there was no condom? video? he said-she said?
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12-02-2010, 09:25 AM
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Thats what happens now days when you play the game he is playing.
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Can the girls prove he declined to use a condom. Or did they decline to use one? Who raped who then?
Why didn't the girls say no, if he wouldn't use a condom. Did them say yes show agreement to the action? Good luck getting a conviction in front of an unbiased jury. |
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Noooooooo! Really? We all thought that this guy was one bad ass serial rapist.. |
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Can't we just shoot him and get it over with and move on to bigger problems like making flavored rolling papers legal again?
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12-02-2010, 12:46 PM
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sounds logical? lol
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Barebackistan will soon wage war against Sweden.
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There is another article in todays paper that gives some more detail. It seems that in the case of woman A, the condom broke during sex. So it seems that if your having a root in Sweden and and condom breaks your going to jail for rape. What a stupid fucking joke of a country....
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/s...ithout-condom/ |
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LOL @ s-x and r-pe. Why censor six and rope?
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I think this is one of the girls:
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the charge is usually only pressed to coincide with you releasing classified US documents.
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I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time .... |
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I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time .... |
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anal creampie is rape there too according to wikipedia.
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1) A rape begins with the act, which then results in an accuser who alleges the crime occurred and a perpetrator who typically denies the allegation. Essentially, that is "he said, she said" as baddog suggested. 2) Posting someone else's documents online does not make one a journalist. |
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Interesting article in todays Australian newspaper that provides a more indepth look at the case....http://www.smh.com.au/technology/tec...203-18jv3.html
It is also interesting to note how the Australian media in the last two days seem to be shifting sides to getting being wikileaks and assange a bit. Previous to that they seemed to be doing a hatchet job on the guy. Even the Government seems now to be backtracking after initially attacking him. I think it finally dawned on the media the long term consequences of what would happen if Governments get away with persecuting assange and wikileaks. Anyone from Sweden here with what is being said in Sweden about this case? |
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