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Old 12-06-2010, 02:49 PM   #1
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Monitor help, which one should I Get? Dell U2211H or Asus VE228H?

Dell U2211H

Panel Size:
54.61cm (21.5?)
Aspect Ratio
Widescreen (16:9)
Panel Type, Surface:
IPS (In-Plane Switching), anti glare with hard coat 3H
Optimal Resolution:
1920 x 1080 at 60 Hz
Contrast Ratio:
1000 to 1 (typical), 10,000:1 (dynamic)
Brightness:
250 cd/m2 (typical)
Response Time:
8ms (gray to gray)
Viewing Angle
(178° vertical / 178° horizontal)
Color Gamut:
82%4 (100% sRGB coverage)
Color Depth:
16.7 million colors
Pixel Pitch:
0.247 mm
Display Type
Flat Panel Display
1 Digital Visual Interface connectors (DVI-D) with HDCP
DisplayPort (DP)
Video Graphics Array (VGA)
1 USB 2.0 upstream port
4 USB 2.0 downstream ports
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Asus VE228H

http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-VE228H-21.../dp/B00413PHDM
# Panel: TFT LCD (LED-Backlit)
# Panel Size: 21.5-inch Widescreen
# True Resolution: 1920 x 1080
# Pixel Pitch: 0.248mm
# Brightness(Max): 250 cd/m2
# Contrast Ratio (Max): 10,000,000:1 (ASCR)
# Display Color: 16.7M
# Viewing Angle (CR>=10): 170°(H)/160°(V)
# Response Time: 5 ms
# Video Features:
SPLENDID Video Intelligence Technology
SPLENDID Video Preset Modes (5 modes)
Skin-Tone Selection (3 mode)
HDCP support
Color Temperature Selection (5 modes)
# Audio Features: Stereo speakers 1W x 2 stereo RMS
# Convenient Hotkey:
SPLENDID Video Preset Mode Selection
Auto Adjustment
Brightness Adjustment
Volume Adjustment
# PC Video Input: DVI-D/ D-Sub / HDMI 1.3
# PC Audio Input: 3.5 mm mini-jack
# Analog Signal Frequency: 30 ~ 83kHz(H)/ 56 ~ 76 Hz(V)
# Digital Signal Frequency: 30 ~ 83KHz(H)/56 ~ 76 Hz(V)
# Power Consumption: Normal < 30 W; Power Saving Mode < 1 W
# Chassis Colors: Black
# Tilt: +20°~ 5°
# VESA Wall Mounting: 100mm x 100mm
# Security: Kensington lock


Please help, I'm down to those two choices.... I'll be buying two for dual monitor setup and they will be replacing two old Smasungs 931bw's.
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Old 12-06-2010, 03:24 PM   #2
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Also considering the Benq G2222HDL
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Definitely the Asus, Viewsonic and Acer are also excellent brands.
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Asus for sure. Hands down one of the best
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Although the Dell monitor might be better, from my current and past experience with Asus, I decided to order 2 Asus monitors today, should be getting them tomorrow.
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The dell which has one of the best types of panels (IPS) vs the asus with a TN panel which is the worst type out there. Hmmmm.

http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides...anel-types.php
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Take the anus.
Ooo err
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The dell which has one of the best types of panels (IPS) vs the asus with a TN panel which is the worst type out there. Hmmmm.

http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides...anel-types.php
only thing is it's a LED vs an LCD
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The dell which has one of the best types of panels (IPS) vs the asus with a TN panel which is the worst type out there. Hmmmm.

http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides...anel-types.php
actually, after reading that and seeing what are the other monitors using IPS panel, I decided to change my order to the dell one. A bit more expensive but I feel it will be worth it since I'm not playing games on it.
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actually, after reading that and seeing what are the other monitors using IPS panel, I decided to change my order to the dell one. A bit more expensive but I feel it will be worth it since I'm not playing games on it.
You'll be much better off, there's lots more info out there about panel types that page is just the basics. Personally I can't stand TN panels because viewing angles suck on almost all of them. Even if you do play games I'd rather use anything but a TN, most new panels can keep up with TNs when it comes to gaming or close enough anyway.

Here's some more info off anandtech...


* TN
o Good response time
o Very good dynamic range (400:1 with older generation, 700 - 1000:1 with newer gen TNs)
o Poor vertical viewing angle (especially from below)
o Poor screen uniformity and stability (white can look "dirty"), which can reduce perceived contrast
o Lateral viewing angle is not great (darker/lighter details can appear and disappear depending on the angle)
o 8-bit gradient (16.7M colors) through dithering and FRC
o Lack of true 8-bit DAC causes color tinting, fringing, and burning in gradients and poor reproduction of darker tones
o Very unlikely to get image persistence
o Low input lag (lower latency in screen update)
o Economical, but more prone to backlight bleeding and QC (quality control) problems than other panel types, too

Target Audience:
+ Gamers, general use (Word/Excel) who don't mind a poorer viewing angle. Less suitable for movies and poor for photo editing.

* VA
o Decent response time (varies)
o Great dynamic range (1000:1 - 1500:1)
o Horizontal color shift (certain gray tones rapidly shift at just a few degrees, worse than TNs in many cases)
o Image details absent at perpendicular angle
o Good vertical viewing angle
o Good screen uniformity (white is uniform and does not shift at angles, contrast is decent)
o 8-bit gradient (16.7M colors) through true 8-bit DAC (although dithering is possible with certain models)
o True 8-bit DAC allows better reproduction of gradients and sometimes better dark tones than TN panels
o Unlikely to get image persistence
o High input lag (high latency in screen update)
o Good value, and the least QC problems of all panels

Target Audience:
+ Gamers, general use (Word/Excel) who want a more stable viewing angle. OK for photo editing, although beware of color shifting. Not bad for movies, but not always great due to color shift.

* IPS
o Decent response time
o Medium dynamic range (400:1) or higher for AS-IPS/H-IPS/A-TW-IPS (700:1)
o Minimal color shift at any viewing angle (only slight brightness reduction, and very little gamma/tint shift)
o Image details present across entire screen
o Good screen uniformity (white is uniform and does not shift at angles, contrast is amazing)
o 8-bit gradient (16.7M colors) through true 8-bit DAC (although dithering is possible with certain models)
o True 8-bit DAC allows better reproduction of gradients and sometimes better dark tones than TN panels
o More neutral grayscale reproduction and warmer, less harsh image (most like a CRT) than S-PVA panels
o Medium input lag (low or high depending on model)
o More susceptible to image persistence
o Tends to be very expensive although benefits can be visible to normal users
o Prone to quality control problems: read reviews

Target Audience:
+ Photo editors will crave this type of panel. IPS-type panels are suitable and generally better for anything else too, including gaming and general use. Some people may prefer an S-PVA for higher dynamic range but an IPS panel, due to its viewing angle characteristics, probably has a higher contrast (ability of the LCD to reliably reproduce tones and nuances).
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only thing is it's a LED vs an LCD
They're both LCD, LED is just the bulbs used in the asus. It is better to buy an LED-LCD if the panel types are the same. But the most important part of an LCD monitor is the panel inside not the bulbs used.
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I got the Dell's and I'm super satisfied Thanks CESS you saved my life =] If it wasn't you I'd be stuck with the cheap asus, only $50 difference in price between them around here
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