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czarina · 12-07-2010, 12:50 PM

the truth is I am very disappointed in him

Holly Lez! · 12-07-2010, 12:52 PM

I am disappointed in him as well! All promises (broken) and no action! But honestly I don't see how Palin and the Grampa McCain would have been better..

12clicks · 12-07-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by czarina

the truth is I am very disappointed in him

you think soaking the rich simply because they have it is a good thing?

explain.

fatfoo · 12-07-2010, 01:10 PM

What he thought isn't what he thought it was. That sucks for him.

marketsmart · 12-07-2010, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

As with all rabble guesses at how their betters live, the "good accountant" myth only sound smart to the lower brackets

wow, i guess you are really broke...

as a business owner (albeit a tiny one), you should know many of the ways you can lower your personal tax liability..

your comment tells me that you probably do your taxes yourself using quickbooks...

play on playa.... play on.....

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12clicks · 12-07-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

wow, i guess you are really broke...

as a business owner (albeit a tiny one), you should know many of the ways you can lower your personal tax liability..

your comment tells me that you probably do your taxes yourself using quickbooks...

play on playa.... play on.....

come on little fella, only the unaccomplished like yourself fall for the good accountant myth.

run along and wow the rabble. your $30k a year vocabulary exposes you without you even realizing it.

Tom_PM · 12-07-2010, 02:16 PM

I'm dissappointed in Obama as well. He should have let this go on until the only voices left speaking were those holding things up.

Want people to pay attention? Let all the tax cuts expire and they're paying attention.

The GOP better hope that unemployment drops like a stone now because they went in to the hilt with this thing. Their political lives could very well depend on employment results that they can actually tie to extending the top 2% tax cut bonus for 2 years longer.

The Demon · 12-07-2010, 02:26 PM

You do realize that it takes months or years for unemployment to drop regardless of policy? Or are you just rationalizing?

marketsmart · 12-07-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

come on little fella, only the unaccomplished like yourself fall for the good accountant myth.

run along and wow the rabble. your $30k a year vocabulary exposes you without you even realizing it.

thats the best you can come back with...

and wow... i must be really putting in the over time at McDonalds to make 30k a year...

now, instead of posting your rabble about how tax increases are going to hurt your business, dont you think you should focus on your dwindling revenues?

i guess you could always go back to mainstream...

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12clicks · 12-07-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I'm dissappointed in Obama as well. He should have let this go on until the only voices left speaking were those holding things up.

Want people to pay attention? Let all the tax cuts expire and they're paying attention.

The GOP better hope that unemployment drops like a stone now because they went in to the hilt with this thing. Their political lives could very well depend on employment results that they can actually tie to extending the top 2% tax cut bonus for 2 years longer.

here in America, the intelligent part of the population isn't interested in stealing from the rich. They understand that the real problem with America is the government wasting our money.

the dems moved away from class warfare because they realized it was only seen as a good thing by the stupid.

12clicks · 12-07-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

thats the best you can come back with...

and wow... i must be really putting in the over time at McDonalds to make 30k a year...

now, instead of posting your rabble about how tax increases are going to hurt your business, dont you think you should focus on your dwindling revenues?

i guess you could always go back to mainstream...

ouch. a chat board troll has me all figured out.

Tom_PM · 12-07-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

You do realize that it takes months or years for unemployment to drop regardless of policy? Or are you just rationalizing?

Coming up on year 10 for this plan to work.. plus 2 more coming right up. Surely in years 11 and 12 there could be an expectation of tangible results?

pOrRiDgE · 12-07-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

nice comeback. I'm sure you saved face with it in troll world.

Enjoy hell asshole

BlackCrayon · 12-07-2010, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

here in America, the intelligent part of the population isn't interested in stealing from the rich. They understand that the real problem with America is the government wasting our money.

the dems moved away from class warfare because they realized it was only seen as a good thing by the stupid.

you're a fool if you think anyone (left/right/up/down) in government wants to spend less. its a business for them! its just a game to play morons off each other like whats happening in this thread.

12clicks · 12-07-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pOrRiDgE

Enjoy hell asshole

oh! look who's home from their day job and wants to pretend to be an adult webmaster!

12clicks · 12-07-2010, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

you're a fool if you think anyone (left/right/up/down) in government wants to spend less.

please blow away. you're out of your depth. I KNOW government doesn't want to spend less.
do canadians just roll over meekly when their government wants to tax and spend more than they should?
most likely.
Americans are a different breed.

The Demon · 12-07-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Coming up on year 10 for this plan to work.. plus 2 more coming right up. Surely in years 11 and 12 there could be an expectation of tangible results?

For the plan to work effectively, all of the other economic factors have to be in place. This just helps.

_Richard_ · 12-07-2010, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

please blow away. you're out of your depth. I KNOW government doesn't want to spend less.
do canadians just roll over meekly when their government wants to tax and spend more than they should?
most likely.
Americans are a different breed.

http://www.governmentcontractswon.co...4251.asp?yr=00

show me how you guys are a different breed lol

BlackCrayon · 12-07-2010, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

please blow away. you're out of your depth. I KNOW government doesn't want to spend less.
do canadians just roll over meekly when their government wants to tax and spend more than they should?
most likely.
Americans are a different breed.

politics are a game and you're nothing but a pawn buddy. you can use your vote to try and change things but you should be old enough by now to see that nothing ever really changes no matter who you vote in. the two party system is a joke. decisions are bought and sold, votes mean nothing. you are out of your depth (and very naive) if you believe any politician has your best interest in mind.

uno · 12-07-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

here in America, the intelligent part of the population isn't interested in stealing from the rich. They understand that the real problem with America is the government wasting our money.

the dems moved away from class warfare because they realized it was only seen as a good thing by the stupid.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n7111670.shtml

Less than 50%(46%) of even repubs say they should continue the tax cuts for those over 250K. Only 26% of people polled said they should continue.

The Demon · 12-07-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n7111670.shtml

Less than 50%(46%) of even repubs say they should continue the tax cuts for those over 250K. Only 26% of people polled said they should continue.

The bolded text is the problem with your entire post.

PR_Glen · 12-07-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

politics are a game and you're nothing but a pawn buddy. you can use your vote to try and change things but you should be old enough by now to see that nothing ever really changes no matter who you vote in. the two party system is a joke. decisions are bought and sold, votes mean nothing. you are out of your depth (and very naive) if you believe any politician has your best interest in mind.

so what is your solution then? have no government? If it's naive to think that your vote is worth something then what is living in a system in which you think you are oppressed in exactly?

he's right in a sense about us canadians rolling over with taxes... they fought wars over keeping theirs down. We just pay more and more and try to vote our way into lower taxes, which is pretty ineffective to say the least...

uno · 12-07-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

The bolded text is the problem with your entire post.

My point was that it had been argued in this thread that the majority of people want tax cuts for the rich. This is simply not the case.

BlackCrayon · 12-07-2010, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

so what is your solution then? have no government? If it's naive to think that your vote is worth something then what is living in a system in which you think you are oppressed in exactly?

he's right in a sense about us canadians rolling over with taxes... they fought wars over keeping theirs down. We just pay more and more and try to vote our way into lower taxes, which is pretty ineffective to say the least...

I'm more for a flat tax or higher sales tax and get rid of income taxes. americans fought one war over taxes so long ago it has nothing to do with who is living today. what are they going to do if they don't like tax increases? vote them out, ok well chances are the next people you vote in are going to do the same thing anyways. i don't have the solutions to curbing how corrupt politics is but i have to chuckle at those who think voting a certain party in will fix anything.

The Demon · 12-07-2010, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by uno

My point was that it had been argued in this thread that the majority of people want tax cuts for the rich. This is simply not the case.

Yet again, you claim to have read what I wrote and then proceeded to completely disregard that. Saying "this is simply not the case" begs for proof that you don't have, other than a meaningless, unrepresentative poll. It could be the case or it may not be, you don't know.

uno · 12-07-2010, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Yet again, you claim to have read what I wrote and then proceeded to completely disregard that. Saying "this is simply not the case" begs for proof that you don't have, other than a meaningless, unrepresentative poll. It could be the case or it may not be, you don't know.

I'm not sure who had originally claimed that a majority of people want the tax cuts for all to continue as I was just casually browsing the thread while doing other things. My original post came as a reply to and quoted 12clicks, not you, although I can see how you would get you 2 confused.

If you want to argue over their methodology, fine. Whether you want to believe the polls is not my problem. They may not be "proof" that you are begging for, but they are supporting evidence to substantiate what I said.

pOrRiDgE · 12-07-2010, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

oh! look who's home from their day job and wants to pretend to be an adult webmaster!

Why are you responding to this? Cant you hear the big boys are talking?

marketsmart · 12-07-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

the real problem with America is the government wasting our money.

thats the only intelligent thing you have said here in months and yet the republicans love to spend money just as much as the dems..

until people do more than just complain, nothing is going to change..

since when did becoming a congressmen mean you would become a millionaire...

"show me a poor politician and i will show you an honest politician".... marketsmart 2010

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GatorB · 12-07-2010, 08:37 PM

Is that all you are going to 12dicks is post anti-Obam stuff? Are you here to do business or be a GOP troll?

The Demon · 12-07-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Is that all you are going to 12dicks is post anti-Obam stuff? Are you here to do business or be a GOP troll?

You're a liberal troll who says dumber things than any "GOP troll" could ever dream of.

directfiesta · 12-07-2010, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

You do realize that it takes months or years for unemployment to drop regardless of policy? Or are you just rationalizing?

didn`t a week ago ..lol

The Demon · 12-07-2010, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

didn`t a week ago ..lol

Anybody else catch that? lol

12clicks · 12-07-2010, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

politics are a game and you're nothing but a pawn buddy. you can use your vote to try and change things but you should be old enough by now to see that nothing ever really changes no matter who you vote in. the two party system is a joke. decisions are bought and sold, votes mean nothing. you are out of your depth (and very naive) if you believe any politician has your best interest in mind.

Yeah, you've got it all figured out.
Run along and take your pretend intellectualism with you.

12clicks · 12-07-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

thats the only intelligent thing you have said here in months and yet the republicans love to spend money just as much as the dems..

until people do more than just complain, nothing is going to change..

since when did becoming a congressmen mean you would become a millionaire...

"show me a poor politician and i will show you an honest politician".... marketsmart 2010

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Please, son. You're not smart enough to be the arbiter of the color red let alone what constitutes intelligence.

12clicks · 12-07-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

http://www.governmentcontractswon.co...4251.asp?yr=00

show me how you guys are a different breed lol

Most of us don't top out as "affiliate manager" at such a young age and call it success.

howardzinn · 12-07-2010, 11:45 PM

Silly douchebag, keep following the repugs until every fucking cent of public money is in the hands of corporations. Blackwater and Haliburton are only interested in drinking from the public wealth.

At least with Obama he isn't sucking corporate dick every day like Cheney and Bush, (only every 2nd day). With numbskulls like you willingly giving corporations and free market zealots so much power it's no wonder the middle class is dying. It's not wonder wages for the middle and lower classes have barely increased for 20 years while walmart profits skyrocket selling their Chinese crap.

If you had any understanding of the flaws in free market zealotry and corporatism you would realise the republicans are a dead end for the USA. If you own a few million in stock they are great, but build a BIG FUCKING WALL around your house because society as you know it will be destroyed.

12clicks · 12-08-2010, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by howardzinn

Silly douchebag, keep following the repugs until every fucking cent of public money is in the hands of corporations. Blackwater and Haliburton are only interested in drinking from the public wealth.

At least with Obama he isn't sucking corporate dick every day like Cheney and Bush, (only every 2nd day). With numbskulls like you willingly giving corporations and free market zealots so much power it's no wonder the middle class is dying. It's not wonder wages for the middle and lower classes have barely increased for 20 years while walmart profits skyrocket selling their Chinese crap.

If you had any understanding of the flaws in free market zealotry and corporatism you would realise the republicans are a dead end for the USA. If you own a few million in stock they are great, but build a BIG FUCKING WALL around your house because society as you know it will be destroyed.

run into the other room and tell it to your mom. No one else is interested in the delusions of a failure.

BlackCrayon · 12-08-2010, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Yeah, you've got it all figured out.
Run along and take your pretend intellectualism with you.

Perhaps you should take your own advice. I don't have it figured out, nor do you.

charlie g · 12-08-2010, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Is that all you are going to 12dicks is post anti-Obam stuff? Are you here to do business or be a GOP troll?

Still trying to figure out what you do in adult gatah????? should you be posting here?

marketsmart · 12-08-2010, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Please, son. You're not smart enough to be the arbiter of the color red let alone what constitutes intelligence.

that's hilarious coming from a guy like you...

i equally hate the left and the right...

its idiots like you that get fixated on which side is right instead of the issues at hand..

please continue, i need some material for the afternoon shift at mcdonalds...

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The Demon · 12-08-2010, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by howardzinn

Silly douchebag, keep following the repugs until every fucking cent of public money is in the hands of corporations. Blackwater and Haliburton are only interested in drinking from the public wealth.

At least with Obama he isn't sucking corporate dick every day like Cheney and Bush, (only every 2nd day). With numbskulls like you willingly giving corporations and free market zealots so much power it's no wonder the middle class is dying. It's not wonder wages for the middle and lower classes have barely increased for 20 years while walmart profits skyrocket selling their Chinese crap.

Actually, Obama IS sucking corporate dick. You need to stop deluding yourself.

Quote:

If you had any understanding of the flaws in free market zealotry and corporatism you would realise the republicans are a dead end for the USA. If you own a few million in stock they are great, but build a BIG FUCKING WALL around your house because society as you know it will be destroyed.

If you understood the flaws of anything government run or an expansion in government, you'd realize the Democrats are a dead end for the USA. Now keep your retarded views to yourself.

_Richard_ · 12-08-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Most of us don't top out as "affiliate manager" at such a young age and call it success.

i don't care what your opinion of what i achieved is, i care about what you're going to do about the stone cold proof i just provided you of wasteful government spending

here is the link again: http://www.governmentcontractswon.co...4251.asp?yr=00

44k, one person, sex club. go

12clicks · 12-08-2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

i don't care what your opinion of what i achieved is, i care about what you're going to do about the stone cold proof i just provided you of wasteful government spending

here is the link again: http://www.governmentcontractswon.co...4251.asp?yr=00

44k, one person, sex club. go

I understand you want to talk with the adults but how exactly is your link relevant to this thread?

there should be no wasteful government spending. your example is an insignificant drop in the bucket.
does your link somehow justify raising taxes on the rich? go.

_Richard_ · 12-08-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

I understand you want to talk with the adults but how exactly is your link relevant to this thread?

there should be no wasteful government spending. your example is an insignificant drop in the bucket.
does your link somehow justify raising taxes on the rich? go.

so are you or are you not rolling over meekly over this obvious wasteful government spending?

12clicks · 12-08-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

so are you or are you not rolling over meekly over this obvious wasteful government spending?

are you going to try to stick around in this business after you lose this latest job?

_Richard_ · 12-08-2010, 12:05 PM

nice i got options eh?

arock10 · 12-08-2010, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by minicivan

Stop for a second and explore the reasoning behind your general view. We understand that the US is roughly divided into two political views of roughly equal size.

You believe that everyone who does not stand on your side of the line is only on the other side because they are greedy and selfish.

It can't possibly be because they have some core principles with regards to taxes and tax increases and that a large segment of the population agrees with and supports those views?

poor conservatives are religious, retarded, or both

Coup · 12-08-2010, 12:32 PM

Who are you idiots going to sell porn to when the middle class is gone?

12clicks · 12-08-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

nice i got options eh?

a two year old has opinions too but they're generally more on topic than you.

12clicks · 12-08-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup

Who are you idiots going to sell porn to when the middle class is gone?

man, no wonder this biz is so easy.
look at the competition.

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