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Old 12-15-2010, 08:01 PM   #51
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I am not going to defend the police.

But I will tell you this.

A friend of mine has been a cop for over 5 years. At first it was very exciting for him to serve and protect the people while getting paid to do it.

Within a year, his mind was changed a lot. He would call me once a day and tell me stories and situations that makes you question what is wrong with people's heads.

All cops are stressed out, depressed, under paid, and get treated like shit from the majority of the public. The exciting days for them are gone faster than a few paychecks.

The majority of the public that cops come in contact with daily are not just your average weed smoker or traffic speeder. These kind of people cops consider a vacation to deal with.

So why these things happen like shooting three dogs? As a cop working year after year dealing with 100 scumbags a day, you start to develop an instant accurate profile of most people you come in contact with. This profiling has common factors that all cops agree on. You need to have such skills or you will end up dead or mentally insane.

You have to take into account, there were more than one cop at the scene. Something happened that made the cops kill the puppies. What happened? No one knows for sure. But you can be confident if the cops did not have to shoot the puppies, they would not have done so. They were pushed to do it and there are at least a dozen scenarios I can think of which prompts cops to shoot a dog.

That puppy that was said "hiding under the table" could have been ready to attack the cops. Cops are not trained to combat animals, specially pit bulls.
You sound like a bigger dumbass than your prick over-wound cop friend.
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Waiting for that cunt baddog to come in here and defend this one.
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You have to take into account, there were more than one cop at the scene. Something happened that made the cops kill the puppies. What happened? No one knows for sure. But you can be confident if the cops did not have to shoot the puppies, they would not have done so. They were pushed to do it and there are at least a dozen scenarios I can think of which prompts cops to shoot a dog.

That puppy that was said "hiding under the table" could have been ready to attack the cops. Cops are not trained to combat animals, specially pit bulls.
I guess you did not get the memo. These days it is pretty much SOP for SWAT to shoot the dogs when they raid a house like this. Especially pit bulls. It's disgusting. I keep hoping someone brings a civil suit against these pieces of shit.
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Very sad, I want to hear of a fucking moron defending police forces now
Ok, I'm not sure how to go about this.


Let's see........

  • AMP copy/pastes a story from infowars, infowars mind you.
  • A story where anyone in their right mind would read it and say "Whaaaa?".
  • A story that is so completely and utter absurd.
  • And not only so absurd, but so absurd with ZERO proof or factual content.
  • The "facts" it tries to put forth are a youtube video of some dogs, and then a youtube video of a blood spot.

Then from all of this. Here we are two pages later. Herds of people blindly jumping on the bandwagon. And I'm the ONLY person to question the legitimacy of it? Did you people arrive to the internet yesterday or something?
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Old 12-15-2010, 09:43 PM   #55
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Ok, I'm not sure how to go about this.


Let's see........

  • AMP copy/pastes a story from infowars, infowars mind you.
  • A story where anyone in their right mind would read it and say "Whaaaa?".
  • A story that is so completely and utter absurd.
  • And not only so absurd, but so absurd with ZERO proof or factual content.
  • The "facts" it tries to put forth are a youtube video of some dogs, and then a youtube video of a blood spot.

Then from all of this. Here we are two pages later. Herds of people blindly jumping on the bandwagon. And I'm the ONLY person to question the legitimacy of it? Did you people arrive to the internet yesterday or something?
If you are questioning whether this occurred or not here is your proof:

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"The S.W.A.T. team was utilized to make entry because of the anticipated threat from animals and possible other threats," Huntington Police Sgt. Darrell Booth said. "As a result, a couple of animals had to be put down through the course of the entry. It's under investigation."
http://www.wsaz.com/news/headlines/D...111571679.html
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Still not enough information yet to make an informed decision. I like to think for myself. I don't jump to conclusions on things.
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I don't jump to conclusions on things.
From the infered tone of your post it seems you have jumped to the conclusion that the entire story is a work of fiction.
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Ok, I'm not sure how to go about this.


Let's see........

  • AMP copy/pastes a story from infowars, infowars mind you.
  • A story where anyone in their right mind would read it and say "Whaaaa?".
  • A story that is so completely and utter absurd.
  • And not only so absurd, but so absurd with ZERO proof or factual content.
  • The "facts" it tries to put forth are a youtube video of some dogs, and then a youtube video of a blood spot.

Then from all of this. Here we are two pages later. Herds of people blindly jumping on the bandwagon. And I'm the ONLY person to question the legitimacy of it? Did you people arrive to the internet yesterday or something?
you are not aware that the gfy answer to a few bad apples is to get rid of police entirely and let a society of a few 100 million do wtf ever they want?
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you are not aware that the gfy answer to a few bad apples is to get rid of police entirely and let a society of a few 100 million do wtf ever they want?
Has anyone here actually suggested that? If so, they are an idiot.
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From the infered tone of your post it seems you have jumped to the conclusion that the entire story is a work of fiction.
My comments were directed at everyone in the thread, not the story. My only comment to the story was that it is absurd (doesn't matter if it's true or fake, it's still an absurd story).

edit: Oh, I also said it lacked facts. But it does lack facts.
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the post potter was replying to.
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Old 12-15-2010, 10:51 PM   #62
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stfu idiot

how about if your mother had a pet dog she loved and some cunt blew its brains out all over her kitchen floor

think you'd be saying ' hey momma chill its just a fucking dog' !?

it's a fucking dog, get over yourself. THEY ARE PETS. NOT HUMANS...

I know most dogs are probably smarter than you are, but ...
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My comments were directed at everyone in the thread, not the story. My only comment to the story was that it is absurd (doesn't matter if it's true or fake, it's still an absurd story).

edit: Oh, I also said it lacked facts. But it does lack facts.
This has happened dozens of times, and if you were 1/4 as aware and intelligent as you believe yourself to be, you would already know that.

It is now SOP for cops to kill dogs on raids. And it's completely unnecessary and total bullshit.
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it's a fucking dog, get over yourself. THEY ARE PETS. NOT HUMANS...
Shoot a police dog and watch what happens.
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it's a fucking dog, get over yourself. THEY ARE PETS. NOT HUMANS...

I know most dogs are probably smarter than you are, but ...
Mute point I figure... there's more humans in the world than dogs, they're just humans.

Only difference really is that the average human makes more friends in a lifetime which means more peeps will miss it when it's gone.
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Something happened that made the cops kill the puppies.
Most likely their brutal aggrressions which may result of their working conditions

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But you can be confident if the cops did not have to shoot the puppies, they would not have done so.
Sorry, but I had to laugh out loud.

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there are at least a dozen scenarios I can think of which prompts cops to shoot a dog.
Most likely the cops were bored, just plain stupid or brutal fuckers.

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That puppy that was said "hiding under the table" could have been ready to attack the cops.
Oh yeah! He was lying on his back in fear. That´s the well known position of puppies being ready to attack.

I have always admired the US for freedom. But I can´t believe what is going on at the moment.
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This has happened dozens of times, and if you were 1/4 as aware and intelligent as you believe yourself to be, you would already know that.

It is now SOP for cops to kill dogs on raids. And it's completely unnecessary and total bullshit.
Again, think for yourself. Why do you think it is SOP. Because of a reasonable precedence that has been set forth over years and thousands upon thousands of other raids. Or because police like to shoot dogs?
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Again, think for yourself. Why do you think it is SOP. Because of a reasonable precedence that has been set forth over years and thousands upon thousands of other raids. Or because police like to shoot dogs?
Did you see this video from earlier this year?

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what makes y'all think this is sop? i've done some snooping around to verify it is and haven't found anything along those lines.
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what makes y'all think this is sop? i've done some snooping around to verify it is and haven't found anything along those lines.
Because I have been told by police officers I know personally that if SWAT raids a place and there are noisy dogs they are as good as dead.
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Did you see this video from earlier this year?
Yeah, that really sucks.

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Again, think for yourself. Why do you think it is SOP. Because of a reasonable precedence that has been set forth over years and thousands upon thousands of other raids. Or because police like to shoot dogs?
The point you were trying to make was..... ????? Police like to shoot dogs? There's only two points that could be made directly to my post. And that is, "yes, there has been precedence set in the past" or "yes, police like to shoot dogs".

Seriously this is so ridiculous. I say, "Why do you think it is SOP". And your response is another youtube video of a dog that got shot during a raid. I mean, WTF dude? Where the hell are you at?
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Again, think for yourself. Why do you think it is SOP. Because of a reasonable precedence that has been set forth over years and thousands upon thousands of other raids. Or because police like to shoot dogs?
most likely because the cops like to get their rocks off by shooting something they know they can easily get away with.

Fuck the police.
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Because I have been told by police officers I know personally that if SWAT raids a place and there are noisy dogs they are as good as dead.
right.

and that's not sop. that's you saying what an idiot with a gun might say.
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most likely because the cops like to get their rocks off by shooting something they know they can easily get away with.

Fuck the police.
And I have zero doubt that YOU truly and wholeheartedly believe this to be reality.
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Dont forget the Mayor who's house was used as a drug drop point and when he brought the package into his house, SWAT bashed in the door, killed their 2 dogs and made the Mayor lay there in his underpants surrounded by his dogs blood.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...073003299.html

There. I dug it up so no memory required.

It's a disgusting trend, like auto-tazering anyone you feel like (can I prove that? no)
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And it always fascinates me how on the internet people seem to be pushed to take such extreme polarized opinions on things. Everything always has to be an illogical battle to make it black and white. There's never any logical middle ground.

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Dont forget the Mayor who's house was used as a drug drop point and when he brought the package into his house, SWAT bashed in the door, killed their 2 dogs and made the Mayor lay there in his underpants surrounded by his dogs blood.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...073003299.html

There. I dug it up so no memory required.

It's a disgusting trend, like auto-tazering anyone you feel like (can I prove that? no)
there are several stories online like this. but i'm sure you know people have a tendency to go online to recant a shitty situation like this more often than those who go online to state their homes were invaded and the dogs were not shot by idiots with guns.
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Yes I know human nature is to share bad stories and keep good ones secret and safe. But this was not a BS story, it was on national news media when it happened. It goes to the point that regardless of someone saying it's not SOP, they certainly kill dogs that are running to hide from them as well as pit bulls being sent to attack. Every dog is a threat when swat breaks in is the default setting. I dont have a problem believing that or being convinced that it needs to be the approach to a raid. It still sucks pretty bad because although pets are legally simple property, everyone knows they are more like family.
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Dont forget the Mayor who's house was used as a drug drop point and when he brought the package into his house, SWAT bashed in the door, killed their 2 dogs and made the Mayor lay there in his underpants surrounded by his dogs blood.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...073003299.html

There. I dug it up so no memory required.

It's a disgusting trend, like auto-tazering anyone you feel like (can I prove that? no)
Wow! That is fucking unreal!

And completely in line with what cops do. I have a brother and two cousins that are cops and they LOVE to do stupid shit just like that.
They told me many times at family gatherings that they LIVE to break down doors and fire their weapons. It's exciting and fun for them. Total power trip.

Also one of my best friends for the last 15 years is a cop...again. He was a cop when I first met him. We became friends hanging out at the strip club that my ex-wife Melonee Mounds used to dance at.

Table full of cops that used to come in and get drunk as hell and fuck the girls after hours. We hit it off and he gave me a "get out of jail" sticker for my bumper that kept me from getting speeding tickets or getting pulled over at night, etc.

Anyway, those guys told stories nightly of the shit they did to people...mostly just for fun.

This particular guy quit the force in 2002 and became a coke dealer for the next 6 years! LOL! He supplied all the strip clubs in town.

Last year he re-joined the force and is back as a detective again.
And yeah, he can still hook you up with an eight ball if he knows you.

Those are my personal experiences. Cops are human. And just like all people do...they get a little over the top with their use of power. They all know just how far they can go, and so they go just as far as they can.
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so no one has any valid links/info showing this is sop?

just hearsay.
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This is why I support privatizing the police...

I'd rather have individual companies serving localized areas that are in competition to provide the best service. That way when this type of shit goes down, a) police officers would lose their badge instead of being placed on probation and b) the town or city could vote to change their services to a different police force.

When the government runs a monopoly on a service it's always shitty and there's no recourse for their fucked up actions. You can't take the government to court! Well you could but... good luck. If the police force were a private company however... you could sue their ass into next Sunday if they murdered your pets. As is, cops don't have to worry about the ramifications.
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This is why I support privatizing the police...

I'd rather have individual companies serving localized areas that are in competition to provide the best service. That way when this type of shit goes down, a) police officers would lose their badge instead of being placed on probation and b) the town or city could vote to change their services to a different police force.

When the government runs a monopoly on a service it's always shitty and there's no recourse for their fucked up actions. You can't take the government to court! Well you could but... good luck. If the police force were a private company however... you could sue their ass into next Sunday if they murdered your pets. As is, cops don't have to worry about the ramifications.
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As is, cops don't have to worry about the ramifications.
I don't know if privatizing is such a great idea...but one thing is for sure, cops don't even worry too much about the ramifications if they kill a person...much less your pet.
They do shit constantly that would land all of us in jail.

Try to "detain" somebody because you "suspect" them of something: Kidnapping
Try to shoot somebodies dog: You get arrested
Try arresting someone for "lying" to you.
Shoot and kill a human being who is unarmed and turns out to be innocent of doing anything: The cop will get suspended and MAYBE get fired. You go to the electric chair.

That's why they get a bit of a power trip. Hell, if I was a cop I'd be fucking every hot looking bitch I see and beating the hell out of every guy I see and dealing and pimping on the side. lol
Y'all don't want to give me any power. I'll turn into Barney Fife in a Mayberry minute!
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LOL cops are pieces of shit, they are not here to serve and protect they are here to establish AUTHORITY. there is big difference.
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LOL cops are pieces of shit, they are not here to serve and protect they are here to establish AUTHORITY. there is big difference.
a more appropriate motto would be, "To Punish & Enslave."
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all you people whining/bitching about the police will be dialing 911 next time your shit gets vandalized/stolen/whatever.
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all you people whining/bitching about the police will be dialing 911 next time your shit gets vandalized/stolen/whatever.
not all of us are dependent on the police to solve all of our problems. And that's a piss poor excuse / defense of the shit the police do. "Oh, well you need them so it's okay that they kill animals and people sometimes, because you might need them one day, so it's okay"

give me a fucking break.

you will NEVER find me calling the police for anything.
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not all of us are dependent on the police to solve all of our problems. And that's a piss poor excuse / defense of the shit the police do. "Oh, well you need them so it's okay that they kill animals and people sometimes, because you might need them one day, so it's okay"

give me a fucking break.

you will NEVER find me calling the police for anything.
right. when did i EVER defend the "shit" police do? not one fucking time.

and you mean to tell me that your daughter comes up missing and you aren't calling the cops.

please.
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right. when did i EVER defend the "shit" police do? not one fucking time.

and you mean to tell me that your daughter comes up missing and you aren't calling the cops.

please.
as i said, I will never call the police for anything... not one fucking thing.
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a more appropriate motto would be, "To Punish & Enslave."
Yep i will never be ok with any part of any society that tries to turn your average citizen that is interested in minding their own business into a criminal at any cost.

it is not hard really, the more laws, the more criminals, the more enforcement the more funding their "has to be" for that very same enforcement.

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as i said, I will never call the police for anything... not one fucking thing.
it's a free country, do as you choose.

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it's a free country, do as you choose.

it USED to be a free country. The police interfere in my life quite often, without my requesting it. There's nothing "free" about that. We live in a police state whether you recognize it or not.
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not a police state, feel FREE to educate yourself on that.

tons of public information available online re: that that you can FREELY peruse at any hour of the day from the computer at your local public library, which would not be available in a police state. weird how that works eh.
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