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Old 12-13-2010, 04:23 PM   #101
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Social Security, Medicare, Veteran Help, and UnEmploy Ins should be optional, yes.

Paved roads should be paid for by taxes.

Schools, police, and fire departments should be privatized.

"THE FUCKING MILITARY" should be paid for from taxes as it's in the fucking founding documents of this country.

And no that's not called anarchy... not from a definition point, not from a "modern meaning" point, not from anything... You are essentially calling the United States pre-1950 "anarchy" LOL
By the sounds of it he wants to move backwards into time. This taking of wealth and giving it to others have been around since the dawn of time. Freedom is a new idea that many are scared of.
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Old 12-13-2010, 04:25 PM   #102
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The government runs Medicare at 3% overhead while private health insurance runs collectively at 30% overhead. It?s painfully obvious for anyone with a brain to see which system is broken. Get rid of private insurance and you have eliminated roughly 1/3 of the cost in the entire medical system.
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Not if it was a government "regulated into not functioning properly" system like we have now, no...

But the government has already realized that they can introduce small amounts of regulation over a period of time in order to completely destroy what works about a free market. Once they've done that, they can get the majority on board for the government to step in and run things.
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Old 12-13-2010, 04:29 PM   #103
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why bother reading..

your posts are all the same..
If my posts were all the same, then you would learn how to read by now. Since you're still not getting it, I'll assume you don't.

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i think you might be retarded because you continue to think i am sticking up for obama when i have stated hundreds of times that he is just more status quo..
Man, you really DO make random shit up and pass it off as fact. Apparently not only was I trying to blame Obama, but I insulted you because I think you're sticking up for Obama, not because you're an idiot who can't read!!!
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Old 12-13-2010, 04:32 PM   #104
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The government runs Medicare at 3% overhead while private health insurance runs collectively at 30% overhead. It?s painfully obvious for anyone with a brain to see which system is broken. Get rid of private insurance and you have eliminated roughly 1/3 of the cost in the entire medical system.
You DO realize that to make that post even remotely logical, you'd have to be using the same numbers for both types of healthcare, otherwise you just look biased and ignorant...


And for those that don't know BFT3K yet, he basically concedes an argument that's above his pay grade when he tells you that you're regurgitating (insert right wing source here).
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Old 12-13-2010, 04:35 PM   #105
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If your taxes go to help your neighbor's kid get educated, and one day they are the doctor you rely on, then you DID benefit - you were not a "slave" at all.

If your unemployment taxes go towards other people's unemployment you can feel like the victim, but when YOU lose YOUR job, then it all comes back around, doesn't it?

Healthcare should be a portion of your paycheck. You have to pay for it anyway, so why is this such a crazy idea? That way everyone pays into it, and everyone benefits from it.

The only people who do not like that idea, are the thieving (and unnecessary) for-profit insurance companies in the middle.

And,by the way, slavery, as defined by Webster, is actually "submission to a dominating influence". By that definition, you are already a slave - a slave to the corporations that control you,on every fucking level, right down to your healthcare.
Your first point doesn't make any sense at all. You don't get a medical doctorate from public education... public education is a whole different topic that I'd be happy to get into a later date, hahaha. BTW I come from a family of teachers... just throwing that out there...

It's not like unemployment would suddenly just go away LOL. It would just be optional for the employer... think 401k... it's a benefit.

Not everyone pays for and/or wants health care coverage. Some people prefer to pay for their doctors visits because WHOA IT COSTS LESS! I personally carry a private insurance that only covers me in emergency situations. It's far less expensive and I've saved tens of thousands over the years. I'm generally pretty healthy. Regardless you can't justify forcing someone to do something because, "everyone else is doing it".

I fall into none of those categories...

I am a slave to no corporation and neither are you. Please name a single instance where a private company in the United States is enslaving someone. You voluntarily choose to do business with whomever you are doing business with. Although you could say you are forced to use a specific telephone and cable provider but that's only because the government has declared them natural monopolies and additional companies are forbidden from providing service in your area ;) Again, the more legislation the more shitty the service becomes; look at Amtrac, LOL. It's illegal to create a passenger train service in the United States because you'd be competing with the government owned Amtrac. We can all see how awesome the passenger train system is in the United States ;)
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Old 12-13-2010, 04:35 PM   #106
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what's interesting is, if it's illegal to force people to buy health insurance or face fines, etc... then it should also be illegal to force people to buy auto insurance, or face fines, etc.
The states impose this, not the federal government. A state may impose a mandate, but not the federal government.
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Old 12-13-2010, 04:36 PM   #107
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The government runs Medicare at 3% overhead
where did you get those facts?

medicare has more fraud going on then in nigeria....

its the fact that medicare and medicaid are going broke as to why this whole healthcare shit started in the first place..




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Old 12-13-2010, 04:37 PM   #108
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The states impose this, not the federal government. A state may impose a mandate, but not the federal government.
Thank you You beat me to it

More people should understand that the federal government's power is supposed to be very Very VERY limited. All other powers are granted to the state! Most people don't even know that let alone comprehend the why...
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If my posts were all the same, then you would learn how to read by now. Since you're still not getting it, I'll assume you don't.


Man, you really DO make random shit up and pass it off as fact. Apparently not only was I trying to blame Obama, but I insulted you because I think you're sticking up for Obama, not because you're an idiot who can't read!!!
i accept your apology and yes, if i am ever in the downtown cleavland area i would love to have lunch with you...




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Old 12-13-2010, 04:38 PM   #110
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The government runs Medicare at 3% overhead while private health insurance runs collectively at 30% overhead. It?s painfully obvious for anyone with a brain to see which system is broken. Get rid of private insurance and you have eliminated roughly 1/3 of the cost in the entire medical system.
You can't use the current system as an example... it's already been completely corrupted by the government via massive amounts of regulation.
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Old 12-13-2010, 04:39 PM   #111
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i accept your apology and yes, if i am ever in the downtown cleavland area i would love to have lunch with you...




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I accept your concession. I'm sorry for continously making you look unintelligent. I'll try being nicer if you try being smarter.
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Old 12-13-2010, 06:35 PM   #112
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I accept your concession. I'm sorry for continously making you look unintelligent. I'll try being nicer if you try being smarter.
you can't fix stupid....

i will tell you that i plan on attending 4 tea party rallies and at least one republican fundraiser this year, so that ought to raise my iq by at least 3 points...




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Old 12-13-2010, 07:36 PM   #113
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I agree, but that just isn't how it goes.... what WC said ...

livin off the grid ain't so easy.
Very true, Sometimes we all have to take a bite of the ol shit sandwich...LOL
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Old 12-13-2010, 07:56 PM   #114
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it is the same thing. It is the government forcing you to buy into the insurance system. Period.
You have the OPTION not to drive a car. You dont have the option of not to live.
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you can't fix stupid....

i will tell you that i plan on attending 4 tea party rallies and at least one republican fundraiser this year, so that ought to raise my iq by at least 3 points...




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That would be nice, it can't possibly get any lower at this point. Oh wait, turn on MSNBC.
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