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JFK · 12-14-2010, 11:37 AM

Fitty .............History lessons

Ethersync · 12-14-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Maybe he has a personal blog we can link

No blog, but it's surprisingly easy to find his home address on a property valuation website that includes a map to his door, including street view. Looks like a nice place. Certainly appears to be worth more than the $2.5 million it's appraised at, but these days who knows...

Pipecrew · 12-14-2010, 11:49 AM

As they say, Your reputation is always written in sand and your wrongdoings written in stone.

12clicks · 12-14-2010, 12:02 PM

Shap, I just want to know one thing.........who's fat albert?

arock10 · 12-14-2010, 12:33 PM

cant they just sell their program to themselves?

Shap · 12-14-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Shap, I just want to know one thing.........who's fat albert?

Adult Star Profits

pornguy · 12-14-2010, 01:02 PM

Most of the people in this industry done even bother running this like a business. They get a check and they spend it. To Hell with having money for new content, servers, employees, tools etc. they live rich and show it off. then one day,they NEED it and dont have it.

Nubiles · 12-14-2010, 01:41 PM

Challenges don't build character they reveal them. Its easy to be the top notch guy when times are good. Take a second look around.

Sarah_Jayne · 12-14-2010, 02:01 PM

I understand that companies close. I don't particularly like being told accounts are closed due to abuse when you know you have never done any such thing and in fact have been rather vocal supporters.

jonnydoe · 12-14-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

In most cases when people leave this biz they always do it with a scam. They leave people high and dry. I don't know why, that is just really dumb imo. I've done very well. I've saved a lot of money. I've enjoyed a life that I never dreamed possible. All thanks to this industry and the people in it. If anything I'd go out with a bang in a good way and throw the biggest promo ever or something like that. Maybe that's just me. I know I'm generalizing. There are plenty of people that went out the right way. Fantasyman, Mike AI, Marc De etc. I just think with 2011 around the corner I'm not expecting to see many people go out like that. I'm expecting to see a continued increase in how many people leave us high and dry.

Last night's CyberAge Dave threads really got me thinking. The more I think about it I think Will's approach is the better approach for a lot of us (especially those with an influential voice) to have. You can not rely on someone's history. If someone stops paying today they erase 10 years of history and no matter how good they WERE they are now amongst those that do not pay and until they prove otherwise they can't be trusted. Not only that the word has to be spread. We've seen it all too many times when it comes down to it the people that leave us all high and dry have no friends in this business. They burn their reputation and every relationship for their last score in this biz.

It's important to be responsible when doing this. You have to exhaust the proper channels (email, icq, phone) first before coming to GFY. Once you've done that and sufficient time has passed (ie check isn't lost in the mail) it's important to see if others are experiencing the same thing.

I have a bad feeling that the disappearing act is going to be very trendy in 2011

Shap, we have only chatted or emailed a couple times. I have always seen you as very much a professional. I didn't read any of the responses but you are right here. Where I hope you are wrong is that this BS is going to continue more through 2011. Let's hope most of the shit is weeded out now.

jonnydoe · 12-14-2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

For most people that's true. One example to the contrary is WEGCash. Their last payments, albeit late, came through at their expense. They were not paid and made a large loss to take care of their affiliates when they knew they would be closing up shop. Something like that will resonate with someone like me a lot more than someone who closed up and left. And if they ever do release a new affiliate progam, I'd be more than happy to promote them.
WG

good point there

lagcam · 12-14-2010, 04:58 PM

I think one of the problems (especially in the adult industry) is the lack of easy exit options for people when they realise their business has got away from them either from declining sales or growing too quick.

I have seen many good businesses die (especialy offline) when they shouldn't have done simply because they didn't have enough working capital behind them and were always struggling to get money in quick enough to meet their outgoing commitments...

ladida · 12-14-2010, 05:34 PM

http://www.gfy.com/17536931-post8.html

He had a lot of such posts. I figured him being an honest person. Read the last few threads, its as if
a) someone stole his account
b) he's fucked out of the company so he's mad
c) his life is falling apart and he's taking no hostages.

will76 · 12-14-2010, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Drunkspringbreakgirls

Challenges don't build character they reveal them. Its easy to be the top notch guy when times are good. Take a second look around.

funny i just said the same thing in an email:

" I look at it as you either have integrity or you don't. It's not a luxury
that you can have when things are going great and its convenient for you.
It shows when things get tough. "

Agent 488 · 12-14-2010, 05:40 PM

deeds not words.

Ethersync · 12-14-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ladida

http://www.gfy.com/17536931-post8.html

He had a lot of such posts. I figured him being an honest person. Read the last few threads, its as if
a) someone stole his account
b) he's fucked out of the company so he's mad
c) his life is falling apart and he's taking no hostages.

...or his "good guy" board persona was a total fabrication this whole time and only now is everyone seeing his true colors

ladida · 12-14-2010, 07:06 PM

I dunno. Have not seen anything bad about them ever, and they've been online for a long time. I don't just take into account someone's posts, but his actions. But i've been "dissapointed" by so many honest guys in last 2 years that yea, you can't really know anyone online.

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12-14-2010, 02:01 PM	#59
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12-14-2010, 04:58 PM	#62
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12-14-2010, 05:34 PM	#63
ladida Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,167	http://www.gfy.com/17536931-post8.html He had a lot of such posts. I figured him being an honest person. Read the last few threads, its as if a) someone stole his account b) he's fucked out of the company so he's mad c) his life is falling apart and he's taking no hostages. __________________ agentGFY at gmail.com

12-14-2010, 05:40 PM	#65
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	deeds not words.

12-14-2010, 07:06 PM	#67
ladida Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,167	I dunno. Have not seen anything bad about them ever, and they've been online for a long time. I don't just take into account someone's posts, but his actions. But i've been "dissapointed" by so many honest guys in last 2 years that yea, you can't really know anyone online. __________________ agentGFY at gmail.com