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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-25-2010, 05:19 PM

An interesting recent bog entry by Ricky Gervais regarding the true meaning of Atheism:

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Why don?t you believe in God? I get that question all the time. I always try to give a sensitive, reasoned answer. This is usually awkward, time consuming and pointless. People who believe in God don?t need proof of his existence, and they certainly don?t want evidence to the contrary. They are happy with their belief. They even say things like ?it?s true to me? and ?it?s faith.?

I still give my logical answer because I feel that not being honest would be patronizing and impolite. It is ironic therefore that ?I don?t believe in God because there is absolutely no scientific evidence for his existence and from what I?ve heard the very definition is a logical impossibility in this known universe,? comes across as both patronizing and impolite.

Arrogance is another accusation. Which seems particularly unfair. Science seeks the truth. And it does not discriminate. For better or worse it finds things out. Science is humble. It knows what it knows and it knows what it doesn?t know. It bases its conclusions and beliefs on hard evidence - - evidence that is constantly updated and upgraded. It doesn?t get offended when new facts come along. It embraces the body of knowledge. It doesn?t hold on to medieval practices because they are tradition.

If it did, you wouldn?t get a shot of penicillin, you?d pop a leach down your trousers and pray. Whatever you ?believe,? this is not as effective as medicine. Again you can say, ?It works for me,? but so do placebos. My point being, I?m saying God doesn?t exist. I?m not saying faith doesn?t exist. I know faith exists. I see it all the time. But believing in something doesn?t make it true. Hoping that something is true doesn?t make it true.

The existence of God is not subjective. He either exists or he doesn?t. It?s not a matter of opinion. You can have your own opinions. But you can?t have your own facts.

Why don?t I believe in God? No, no no, why do YOU believe in God? Surely the burden of proof is on the believer. You started all this. If I came up to you and said, ?Why don?t you believe I can fly?? You?d say, ?Why would I?? I?d reply, ?Because it?s a matter of faith.?

If I then said, ?Prove I can?t fly. Prove I can?t fly see, see, you can?t prove it can you?? You?d probably either walk away, call security or throw me out of the window and shout, ??F?ing fly then you lunatic.?

This, is of course a spirituality issue, religion is a different matter. As an atheist, I see nothing ?wrong? in believing in a god. I don?t think there is a god, but belief in him does no harm. If it helps you in any way, then that?s fine with me. It?s when belief starts infringing on other people?s rights when it worries me. I would never deny your right to believe in a god. I would just rather you didn?t kill people who believe in a different god, say. Or stone someone to death because your rulebook says their sexuality is immoral.

It?s strange that anyone who believes that an all-powerful all-knowing, omniscient power responsible for everything that happens, would also want to judge and punish people for what they are. From what I can gather, pretty much the worst type of person you can be is an atheist. The first four commandments hammer this point home. There is a god, I?m him, no one else is, you?re not as good and don?t forget it. (Don?t murder anyone, doesn?t get a mention till number 6.)

When confronted with anyone who holds my lack of religious faith in such contempt, I say, ?It?s the way God made me.?

But what are atheists really being accused of?

The dictionary definition of God is ?a supernatural creator and overseer of the universe.? Included in this definition are all deities, goddesses and supernatural beings. Since the beginning of recorded history, which is defined by the invention of writing by the Sumerians around 6,000 years ago, historians have cataloged over 3700 supernatural beings, of which 2870 can be considered deities.

So next time someone tells me they believe in God, I?ll say ?Oh which one? Zeus? Hades? Jupiter? Mars? Odin? Thor? Krishna? Vishnu? Ra??? If they say ?Just God. I only believe in the one God,? I?ll point out that they are nearly as atheistic as me. I don?t believe in 2,870 gods, and they don?t believe in 2,869.

I used to believe in God. The Christian one that is.

I loved Jesus. He was my hero. More than pop stars. More than footballers. More than God. God was by definition omnipotent and perfect. Jesus was a man. He had to work at it. He had temptation but defeated sin. He had integrity and courage. But He was my hero because He was kind. And He was kind to everyone. He didn?t bow to peer pressure or tyranny or cruelty. He didn?t care who you were. He loved you. What a guy. I wanted to be just like Him.

One day when I was about 8 years old, I was drawing the crucifixion as part of my Bible studies homework. I loved art too. And nature. I loved how God made all the animals. They were also perfect. Unconditionally beautiful. It was an amazing world.

I lived in a very poor, working-class estate in an urban sprawl called Reading, about 40 miles west of London. My father was a laborer and my mother was a housewife. I was never ashamed of poverty. It was almost noble. Also, everyone I knew was in the same situation, and I had everything I needed. School was free. My clothes were cheap and always clean and ironed. And mum was always cooking. She was cooking the day I was drawing on the cross.

I was sitting at the kitchen table when my brother came home. He was 11 years older than me, so he would have been 19. He was as smart as anyone I knew, but he was too cheeky. He would answer back and get into trouble. I was a good boy. I went to church and believed in God -? what a relief for a working-class mother. You see, growing up where I did, mums didn?t hope as high as their kids growing up to be doctors; they just hoped their kids didn?t go to jail. So bring them up believing in God and they?ll be good and law abiding. It?s a perfect system. Well, nearly. 75 percent of Americans are God- ‐fearing Christians; 75 percent of prisoners are God- ‐fearing Christians. 10 percent of Americans are atheists; 0.2 percent of prisoners are atheists.

But anyway, there I was happily drawing my hero when my big brother Bob asked, ?Why do you believe in God?? Just a simple question. But my mum panicked. ?Bob,? she said in a tone that I knew meant, ?Shut up.? Why was that a bad thing to ask? If there was a God and my faith was strong it didn?t matter what people said.

Oh?hang on. There is no God. He knows it, and she knows it deep down. It was as simple as that. I started thinking about it and asking more questions, and within an hour, I was an atheist.

Wow. No God. If mum had lied to me about God, had she also lied to me about Santa? Yes, of course, but who cares? The gifts kept coming. And so did the gifts of my new found atheism. The gifts of truth, science, nature. The real beauty of this world. I learned of evolution -? a theory so simple that only England?s greatest genius could have come up with it.

Evolution of plants, animals and us ?- with imagination, free will, love, humor. I no longer needed a reason for my existence, just a reason to live. And imagination, free will, love, humor, fun, music, sports, beer and pizza are all good enough reasons for living.

But living an honest life -? for that you need the truth. That?s the other thing I learned that day, that the truth, however shocking or uncomfortable, in the end leads to liberation and dignity.

So what does the question ?Why don?t you believe in God?? really mean. I think when someone asks that they are really questioning their own belief. In a way they are asking ?what makes you so special? ?How come you weren?t brainwashed with the rest of us?? ?How dare you say I?m a fool and I?m not going to heaven, f? you!?

Let?s be honest, if one person believed in God he would be considered pretty strange. But because it?s a very popular view it?s accepted. And why is it such a popular view? That?s obvious. It?s an attractive proposition. Believe in me and live forever. Again if it was just a case of spirituality this would be fine.

?Do unto others?? is a good rule of thumb. I live by that. Forgiveness is probably the greatest virtue there is. But that?s exactly what it is - ‐ a virtue. Not just a Christian virtue. No one owns being good. I?m good. I just don?t believe I?ll be rewarded for it in heaven.

My reward is here and now. It?s knowing that I try to do the right thing. That I lived a good life. And that?s where spirituality really lost its way. When it became a stick to beat people with. ?Do this or you?ll burn in hell.?

You won?t burn in hell. But be nice anyway.

Happy Holidays GFY!

ADG

MetaMan · 12-25-2010, 05:20 PM

For people who dont believe in God atheists sure like the mention it a lot, more so then the people i know who believe in God. funny how that works.

AzteK · 12-25-2010, 05:25 PM

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-25-2010, 06:19 PM

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Amputate Your Head · 12-25-2010, 06:37 PM

nice read.

davecummings · 12-25-2010, 06:40 PM

I attended Catholic grade school, and was an altar boy; I graduated from a Catholic college (Siena), and "raised" my kids/wife (she was a Christian, but not a Catholic) as Catholics. Church every Sunday, etc.

After the kids were 18 and my wife took off with a guy with lots of hair, I stopped "pushing" the kids down the road to/in Catholicism, and told them that if there was/is a God, he/she would probably appreciate it if we were nice individuals. It was about that time that I realized that I was actually an Agnostic. Thank Gawd!

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-25-2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by davecummings

I attended Catholic grade school, and was an altar boy; I graduated from a Catholic college (Siena), and "raised" my kids/wife (she was a Christian, but not a Catholic) as Catholics. Church every Sunday, etc.

After the kids were 18 and my wife took off with a guy with lots of hair, I stopped "pushing" the kids down the road to/in Catholicism, and told them that if there was/is a God, he/she would probably appreciate it if we were nice individuals. It was about that time that I realized that I was actually an Agnostic. Thank Gawd!

I was mostly a Methodist as a kid (Protestant light), and for awhile Episcopalian (Catholic light), but I had my religious epiphany at around age 12 when I read a treatise (written in 1927 by Bertrand Russell), titled "Why I Am Not A Christian"

It started me to thinking, and so I began looking at other religions, philosophies, and different ways of thinking.

It's a never ending journey really, although I find myself somewhat settled in my thoughts now, and not less inquisitive, but rather more interested in making the most of my remaining years.

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cherrylula · 12-25-2010, 07:58 PM

great explanation! logic is awesome. lol

zormaks · 12-25-2010, 08:12 PM

For me more important question is who created god. If god was created out of nothing, why can`t I believe that universe (which is my god) is created the same way? So there is no need for a god and no need for questions "who created who". We just are. Out of nothing.

NETbilling · 12-25-2010, 08:18 PM

Very good read. Merry Christmas!

Grapesoda · 12-25-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

An interesting recent bog entry by Ricky Gervais regarding the true meaning of Atheism:

Happy Holidays GFY!

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cliff notes?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-25-2010, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

great explanation! logic is awesome. lol

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Originally Posted by zormaks

For me more important question is who created god. If god was created out of nothing, why can`t I believe that universe (which is my god) is created the same way? So there is no need for a god and no need for questions "who created who". We just are. Out of nothing.

I just believe in me...

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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-25-2010, 08:32 PM

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Very good read. Merry Christmas!

Thank God you liked it...

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cliff notes?

This is ONLY FOR YOU - absolutely no one else must view this (for obvious reasons):

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mekent · 12-25-2010, 08:45 PM

So long, and thanks for all the fish...

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-25-2010, 08:53 PM

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So long, and thanks for all the fish...

Thoughts like yours are dangerous and support heresy...

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Hank_Heartland · 12-25-2010, 08:54 PM

Nice post...but Dave as you know better than anyone...there are no Atheist in a foxhole. Faith is all you got. For the record...He's wrong, science is very subjective...At one time science said the world was flat (hello). Science is a good guess at best. Yesterday's facts are tomorrow's fables (word)...

The only thing today that you can count as fact is that which is fact today will be tomorrow's fiction. I never met an Atheist that didn't have his head up his ass!!!

Merry Christmas...

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-25-2010, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank_Heartland

Nice post...but Dave as you know better than anyone...there are no Atheist in a foxhole. Faith is all you got. For the record...He's wrong, science is very subjective...At one time science said the world was flat (hello). Science is a good guess at best. Yesterday's facts are tomorrow's fables (word)...

The only thing today that you can count as fact is that which is fact today will be tomorrow's fiction. I never met an Atheist that didn't have his head up his ass!!!

Merry Christmas...

Actually, there have been, and are, many atheists in foxholes, defending both you and those against you/your side (many people such as myself wore/wear dog tags which read "No Pref" since we are not permitted to list Atheist).

Good science beats bad religion almost every time - I said, "almost every time":

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zormaks · 12-25-2010, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank_Heartland

Nice post...but Dave as you know better than anyone...there are no Atheist in a foxhole. Faith is all you got.

What is wrong with being atheist as someone who doesn`t want to be a part of organised religion? Faith is not the same thing as religion. There is no need for religion to have a faith.

Hank_Heartland · 12-25-2010, 09:21 PM

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Actually, there have been, and are, many atheists in foxholes, defending both you and those against you/your side (many people such as myself wore/wear dog tags which read "No Pref" since we are not permitted to list Atheist).

Good science beats bad religion almost every time - I said, "almost every time":

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When as the last time you saw good unbiased science...I'm still looking for it

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-25-2010, 09:28 PM

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What is wrong with being atheist as someone who doesn`t want to be a part of organised religion? Faith is not the same thing as religion. There is no need for religion to have a faith.

I have no scientific proof that the sun will rise, or that I will awaken tomorrow, but I have faith, based upon my actual experience, that the sun will rise and I will be awake when the sun rises - if neither happens, questions about my existence are fairly moot, unless I am wrong...and still I continue to strive to understand the world as I perceive and understand it each and every day of my life...

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JBlack · 12-25-2010, 10:39 PM

I thoroughly enjoyed that article. Good stuff!

BTW
Christian Pornographers FTW!!

Agent 488 · 12-25-2010, 10:57 PM

atheism is a phase you go through. if you don't you are more or less stillborn in this incarnation.

woj · 12-25-2010, 11:09 PM

"Well, nearly. 75 percent of Americans are God- ‐fearing Christians; 75 percent of prisoners are God- ‐fearing Christians. 10 percent of Americans are atheists; 0.2 percent of prisoners are atheists."

interesting stats

Agent 488 · 12-25-2010, 11:24 PM

funny how in these scenarios the atheist is always has a debate with the most stupid backwards country bumpkin, never a krisnamurti, rajneesh or teilhard de chardin.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-25-2010, 11:31 PM

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funny how in these scenarios the atheist is always has a debate with the most stupid backwards country bumpkin, never a krisnamurti, rajneesh or teilhard de chardin.

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NewbieNudes · 12-25-2010, 11:49 PM

Fucking awesome blog post that dude wrote A+ !

Chosen · 12-26-2010, 12:49 AM

Too many letters...

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 12-26-2010, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by zormaks

What is wrong with being atheist as someone who doesn`t want to be a part of organised religion? Faith is not the same thing as religion. There is no need for religion to have a faith.

Depends what you're having faith in I suppose. The thing with the westernized world is that whether we like it or not, our daily lives and everything we follow as "right" and "wrong" is based on Christian values. Many have passed up on the God bandwagon, yet they still walk around touting the following's beliefs without even realizing it. If you're ready to drop faith in God and Christianity, you should also spend some time considering how the religion has shaped your personal morals and the way we conduct day to day life altogether. If God is nonexistent and the entire religion is a sham, how can you justifiably accept the moral structure the church has put in place too without question? You shouldn't, and you should be non-apologetic in doing so. In the end, whether you believe in God or not, you're still the product of Christianity. So it's something to consider if you really want to break down the entire God deception....

DWB · 12-26-2010, 02:11 AM

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So next time someone tells me they believe in God, I?ll say ?Oh which one? Zeus? Hades? Jupiter? Mars? Odin? Thor? Krishna? Vishnu? Ra??? If they say ?Just God. I only believe in the one God,? I?ll point out that they are nearly as atheistic as me. I don?t believe in 2,870 gods, and they don?t believe in 2,869.

Living in a predominately Buddhist nation, I rarely come across bible bangers. Thank God. ;-)

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-26-2010, 02:24 AM

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Living in a predominately Buddhist nation, I rarely come across bible bangers. Thank God. ;-)

Bliss...

Two of the men I would most like to sit down and speak with for an hour - DWB and The Thin White Duke...

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HerPimp · 12-26-2010, 02:28 AM

What makes sense? This all started from something or nothing.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-26-2010, 02:45 AM

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What makes sense? This all started from something or nothing.

This makes sense, and it explains nothingness and eternity at the same time:

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alf6300 · 12-26-2010, 03:48 AM

If religion disappeared, we would lose all the collective sexual frustration that makes people buy porn - a nightmare.

Memo to self: Send an annual check to the Catholic Association for Permanent Virginity.

(On a serious note, that was a really good reading and I thank you for that. If you are interested in such themes, my most recommended reading is Richard Dawkins' "The God Delusion". The definitive and most needed book about atheism and religion, with a scientific perspective)

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 12-26-2010, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by alf6300

If religion disappeared, we would lose all the collective sexual frustration that makes people buy porn - a nightmare.

Memo to self: Send an annual check to the Catholic Association for Permanent Virginity.

(On a serious note, that was a really good reading and I thank you for that. If you are interested in such themes, my most recommended reading is Richard Dawkins' "The God Delusion". The definitive and most needed book about atheism and religion, with a scientific perspective)

Meh, the shiny cover was too distracting. Read Twilight of the Idols & The Antichrist instead...

Cherry7 · 12-26-2010, 04:56 AM

Science flies you to the Moon.

Religion flies you into buildings.

CurrentlySober · 12-26-2010, 05:28 AM

Although sussesfull, Ricky Gervais is underrated...

CaptainHowdy · 12-26-2010, 05:31 AM

His "explanation" (more like a rant) makes me want to believe in God...

12clicks · 12-26-2010, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

Depends what you're having faith in I suppose. The thing with the westernized world is that whether we like it or not, our daily lives and everything we follow as "right" and "wrong" is based on Christian values. Many have passed up on the God bandwagon, yet they still walk around touting the following's beliefs without even realizing it. If you're ready to drop faith in God and Christianity, you should also spend some time considering how the religion has shaped your personal morals and the way we conduct day to day life altogether. If God is nonexistent and the entire religion is a sham, how can you justifiably accept the moral structure the church has put in place too without question? You shouldn't, and you should be non-apologetic in doing so. In the end, whether you believe in God or not, you're still the product of Christianity. So it's something to consider if you really want to break down the entire God deception....

Well said.
I'd also add that if it weren't for the judeo-Christian society you live in, you wouldn't be able to espouse your atheism without being killed.
Much like the protection afforded to liberals and peace nics from conservative warmongers.

Chris · 12-26-2010, 07:27 AM

I believe in what I believe and I don't push it onto anyone else or even attempt to get into a conversation about it where it would come up

brassmonkey · 12-26-2010, 08:56 AM

Merry Christmas!

zormaks · 12-26-2010, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

Depends what you're having faith in I suppose. The thing with the westernized world is that whether we like it or not, our daily lives and everything we follow as "right" and "wrong" is based on Christian values. Many have passed up on the God bandwagon, yet they still walk around touting the following's beliefs without even realizing it. If you're ready to drop faith in God and Christianity, you should also spend some time considering how the religion has shaped your personal morals and the way we conduct day to day life altogether. If God is nonexistent and the entire religion is a sham, how can you justifiably accept the moral structure the church has put in place too without question? You shouldn't, and you should be non-apologetic in doing so. In the end, whether you believe in God or not, you're still the product of Christianity. So it's something to consider if you really want to break down the entire God deception....

There is no such thing as christian values. There is only a thing called common sense. Christianity has abducted common sense and sold it as its trademark after spreading among people with fire and sword. When christian zealots felt that there is no need any more for force and that people has "the right religion", they changed their conquest behaviour.

But, anyway, let us think what christian values mean in practice. Maybe inquisition, burning stakes for witches, gays and other so called heterics, genocide on Indians, spanish conquistadors...I don`t know. If you speak of that, so called christian values, you can`t forget the history. I am ashamed of that values.

The most important values of western culture came from people that were fed up with chains made by christianity. They threw it off and started with renaissanse, humanism and other philosophies that put a human being in its centre instead of god.

More christianity in our society means less common sense, less development, less human rights. History has proven that. Some Islam countries are great proof what can surplus of religion make in society. And christianity is not any different. It has the same logic, it is the same shit. Give total power to it and you will see that I am right. We would find ourselves in a Middle age again.

marcop · 12-26-2010, 10:38 AM

Jesus is one cool motherfucker . . . .

tiger · 12-26-2010, 11:14 AM

Great read. There really isn't any way to sum it up any better than that.

12clicks · 12-26-2010, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by zormaks

There is no such thing as christian values. There is only a thing called common sense. Christianity has abducted common sense and sold it as its trademark after spreading among people with fire and sword. When christian zealots felt that there is no need any more for force and that people has "the right religion", they changed their conquest behaviour.

But, anyway, let us think what christian values mean in practice. Maybe inquisition, burning stakes for witches, gays and other so called heterics, genocide on Indians, spanish conquistadors...I don`t know. If you speak of that, so called christian values, you can`t forget the history. I am ashamed of that values.

The most important values of western culture came from people that were fed up with chains made by christianity. They threw it off and started with renaissanse, humanism and other philosophies that put a human being in its centre instead of god.

More christianity in our society means less common sense, less development, less human rights. History has proven that. Some Islam countries are great proof what can surplus of religion make in society. And christianity is not any different. It has the same logic, it is the same shit. Give total power to it and you will see that I am right. We would find ourselves in a Middle age again.

And the idiots continue to sign up and post nonsense

baddog · 12-26-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank_Heartland

Nice post...but Dave as you know better than anyone...there are no Atheist in a foxhole. Faith is all you got. For the record...He's wrong, science is very subjective...At one time science said the world was flat (hello). Science is a good guess at best. Yesterday's facts are tomorrow's fables (word)...

The only thing today that you can count as fact is that which is fact today will be tomorrow's fiction. I never met an Atheist that didn't have his head up his ass!!!

Merry Christmas...

A couple of inaccuracies I could point out in his post, and one might point out the difference between god and God, but arguing with someone on either side is pointless, no one is going to convert the other.

I pretty much came in just to say hello to you, Hank. I hope you and your family had a great Christmas and have an enjoyable 2011.

baddog · 12-26-2010, 03:04 PM

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Living in a predominately Buddhist nation, I rarely come across bible bangers. Thank God. ;-)

Funny, I rarely come across them here either.

Have a safe 2011, DWB

JustDaveXxx · 12-26-2010, 04:57 PM

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Jesus is one cool motherfucker . . . .

Those are the best pics of this thread

Great find

ADG Great post and a very well written blog post.

And thank you for this book.

Vendzilla · 12-26-2010, 05:04 PM

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So long, and thanks for all the fish...

Just watched that recently again, loved the book and the movie

marcop · 12-26-2010, 06:29 PM

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Those are the best pics of this thread

Great find

Thanks, but I didn't find them, I shot them.

JustDaveXxx · 12-26-2010, 06:38 PM

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Thanks, but I didn't find them, I shot them.

WoW!! Thats even better. Great pics, good subject material too.

I lived around the corner from where those were shot. Lived in Hollywood for 7 years.

Detroit st./Sunset Blvd

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12-25-2010, 07:58 PM	#8
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	great explanation! logic is awesome. lol

12-25-2010, 08:12 PM	#9
zormaks So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 32	For me more important question is who created god. If god was created out of nothing, why can`t I believe that universe (which is my god) is created the same way? So there is no need for a god and no need for questions "who created who". We just are. Out of nothing.

12-25-2010, 08:45 PM	#14
mekent Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55	So long, and thanks for all the fish...

12-25-2010, 10:39 PM	#21
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12-25-2010, 10:57 PM	#22
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	atheism is a phase you go through. if you don't you are more or less stillborn in this incarnation.

12-25-2010, 11:09 PM	#23
woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	"Well, nearly. 75 percent of Americans are God- ‐fearing Christians; 75 percent of prisoners are God- ‐fearing Christians. 10 percent of Americans are atheists; 0.2 percent of prisoners are atheists." interesting stats __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager

12-25-2010, 11:24 PM	#24
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	funny how in these scenarios the atheist is always has a debate with the most stupid backwards country bumpkin, never a krisnamurti, rajneesh or teilhard de chardin.

12-25-2010, 11:49 PM	#26
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12-26-2010, 12:49 AM	#27
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12-26-2010, 02:28 AM	#31
HerPimp Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 1,197	What makes sense? This all started from something or nothing. __________________

12-26-2010, 03:48 AM	#33
alf6300 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 766	If religion disappeared, we would lose all the collective sexual frustration that makes people buy porn - a nightmare. Memo to self: Send an annual check to the Catholic Association for Permanent Virginity. (On a serious note, that was a really good reading and I thank you for that. If you are interested in such themes, my most recommended reading is Richard Dawkins' "The God Delusion". The definitive and most needed book about atheism and religion, with a scientific perspective) __________________ --

12-26-2010, 04:56 AM	#35
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12-26-2010, 05:28 AM	#36
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12-26-2010, 05:31 AM	#37
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12-26-2010, 07:27 AM	#39
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12-26-2010, 08:56 AM	#40
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12-26-2010, 10:38 AM	#42
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12-26-2010, 11:14 AM	#43
tiger Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,986	Great read. There really isn't any way to sum it up any better than that. __________________