Sponsor owners.. all Epass fraud moved to Paxum now? - GoFuckYourself.com

gleem · 01-04-2011, 10:17 AM

Well for many years the affiliate fraud was exclusively on webmaster accounts being paid with Epassport, and after they went under there was an awesome month of barely any fraud, but now the webmaster seems to be kicking back in and about 95% of the fraud accounts are using Paxum.

Seems like Paxum is the new online processor of choice, for legit and fraudulent webmasters in my program. Guess they won the e-payment battle?

PR_Dave · 01-04-2011, 10:27 AM

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Klen · 01-04-2011, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave

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Cheezeeee,you are such a pussies

magicmike · 01-04-2011, 10:34 AM

Yup, many fraudulent webmasters used epassporte, we're looking into paxum now, but could use to not get another blast of russian, and etc fraudies.

It seems paxum etc, requires more for a new account, but we will see.

FiReC · 01-04-2011, 11:21 AM

definitely the same or more carders on paxum than there was on epass on a monthly basis for us.

I really hope they start doing some global warning list type stuff to flag these guys.

They are in the best position to do something about it, there is no service out there keeping track of these guys that sponsors can use.

It just makes sense for paxum to do it.

gleem · 01-04-2011, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/1001798-effect-pre-paid-card-wallet-option.html

yes, I theorized with another webmaster last year what would happen if we dropped Epass and came to the same conclusion.. but at the same time 50% of my sales come from legit people using online E-pay deals so I can't afford to drop em completely.

I think Paxum should stepup and make a special section if you are a verified sponsor to submit paxum usernames that are webmasters trying to cheat so we can kill these guys before it gets as bad as Epass fraud. Or at the very least make the list of paxum usernames that are fraudulent available to the other site owners.

PR_Glen · 01-04-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Cheezeeee,you are such a pussies

when 99% of fraud comes from one branch doesn't it make sense to cut it off? It should.

beerptrol · 01-04-2011, 11:35 AM

the wolves tend to follow the sheep

Profits of Doom · 01-04-2011, 11:35 AM

I think the big difference is Epass would let you open an account under any fake name and all you would need is a prepaid debit card that took direct deposit to link as your bank account. I just opened up my Paxum account and they do require ID scans and other identity documents, something Epass would only require after you received I believe over $5000. That alone should be a BIG difference...

gleem · 01-04-2011, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom

I think the big difference is Epass would let you open an account under any fake name and all you would need is a prepaid debit card that took direct deposit to link as your bank account. I just opened up my Paxum account and they do require ID scans and other identity documents, something Epass would only require after you received I believe over $5000. That alone should be a BIG difference...

Apparently not, I am banning Paxum guys now every week when I do a payout check, and I'm a small revshare program, they must be all over the bigger PPS guys with Paxum payout option.

Klen · 01-04-2011, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

when 99% of fraud comes from one branch doesn't it make sense to cut it off? It should.

It does,but that still doesn't change a fact how you are pussies

Klen · 01-04-2011, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem

Apparently not, I am banning Paxum guys now every week when I do a payout check, and I'm a small revshare program, they must be all over the bigger PPS guys with Paxum payout option.

One tip:try to offer paxum only to proven webmasters where you made atleast 10 valid payments already,and for first ones only other types of payment.

PR_Glen · 01-04-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

It does,but that still doesn't change a fact how you are pussies

I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were thirteen...

u-Bob · 01-04-2011, 12:19 PM

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Klen · 01-04-2011, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were thirteen...

I am just teasing you,dont be upset.I really dont care how pimproll running their business.

gleem · 01-05-2011, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

please post the scamming accounts...

I will from now on. here's a new thread for this:

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/1004709-sponsors-list-cheating-webmaster-accounts-post17821842.html

MaDalton · 01-05-2011, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom

I think the big difference is Epass would let you open an account under any fake name and all you would need is a prepaid debit card that took direct deposit to link as your bank account. I just opened up my Paxum account and they do require ID scans and other identity documents, something Epass would only require after you received I believe over $5000. That alone should be a BIG difference...

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