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Old 09-16-2010, 05:09 AM   #1
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So talked to a friend at subway about paying for porn....

So he says hes going to buy this huge harddrive to store all his full length porn scenes on, he loves porn, his favorite is Bangbros, the bangbus specifically, and flower tucci. He has so much porn accumulated over the years its slowing down his computer. He hasnt paid for porn in 5 years. So i ask him if bangbros or realitykings released a hot new episode would he signup just to download the full copy. (i specifically mentioned a recent BB update with pinkyxxx and cherokee d' ass) His exact words: "Why? I can go to Ovguide.com and from there i can watch or download anything I want for free. Some site just have alot of ads but i close those". I LOLed. BTW, he is BLACK, 38, married with 3 kids works at subway part - time and works at a local grocery full time. Wife has nice job. They live in the suburbs. He has no clue what i do.


Just funny how you guys have no clue who your customers where. if it wasnt for the nifty guides out there teaching him how to get free porn or tgp sites explaining to him exactly what a tgp is ect, some bangbros or nastydollars affiliate would be getting paid off this guy for years. congrats to the winners.

*edit i thought it was funny he is still willing to pay for porn just not going to buy from you lol
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Not very funny. I'm just glad there are people that are willing to pay.
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thats a sad story. all you need to do is talk to an avg Joe about online porn and you realize why the biz is hurting. if you get it for free, why pay. adapt or die, hard to do when product is available for free.
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So he says hes going to buy this huge harddrive to store all his full length porn scenes on, he loves porn, his favorite is Bangbros, the bangbus specifically, and flower tucci. He has so much porn accumulated over the years its slowing down his computer. He hasnt paid for porn in 5 years. So i ask him if bangbros or realitykings released a hot new episode would he signup just to download the full copy. (i specifically mentioned a recent BB update with pinkyxxx and cherokee d' ass) His exact words: "Why? I can go to Ovguide.com and from there i can watch or download anything I want for free. Some site just have alot of ads but i close those". I LOLed. BTW, he is BLACK, 38, married with 3 kids works at subway part - time and works at a local grocery full time. Wife has nice job. They live in the suburbs. He has no clue what i do.


Just funny how you guys have no clue who your customers where. if it wasnt for the nifty guides out there teaching him how to get free porn or tgp sites explaining to him exactly what a tgp is ect, some bangbros or nastydollars affiliate would be getting paid off this guy for years. congrats to the winners.

*edit i thought it was funny he is still willing to pay for porn just not going to buy from you lol
your argument is flawed.
this poorass was never the target of porn sites, he has three kids to feed no one expects him to buy porn, not even webmasters.
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Not very funny. I'm just glad there are people that are willing to pay.
whats funny is he is still willing to fork over $30 or $40 bucks for his favorite type of porn, only problem is no one gets paid off that, not even the tube site owner he got it from. BTW forgot to mention he doesnt know what a torrent is.
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Old 09-16-2010, 05:39 AM   #7
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your argument is flawed.
this poorass was never the target of porn sites, he has three kids to feed no one expects him to buy porn, not even webmasters.
Your thinking is flawed. thats is why your pool of customers will continue to shrink. he continues to consume porn, and is willing to pay for it i.e.: bigger harddrives, faster net service, disk to copy on, etc. But he sees no value in signing up to a paysite. Like i said he lives in a suburb thats middle to upper class. His children are 17, 15, and 13 so no babies. They cut his hours some at his main job so he got a job at subway because its in walking distance. This IS your porn consumer.

*edit: This really wasnt a argument to begin with, i just lol at the irony.
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Well it seems pretty simple to me.

I heard a story of one webmaster, who said he put up like 50 picture gallerys and started making 60,000$ per month - this is in the days when internet porn first started.

So when there was no porn around - people paid for it.

Now there is 1000 tube sites, millions of tgps, porn is everywhere.

What did you think was going to happen?
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His children are 17, 15, and 13 so no babies.
Right, and they all got a job of their own, right ? His father doesn't need to feed them buy them clothes, ipods and whatever the fuck teenagers consume this days.

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His monetary situation forced him to learn how to procure some of his needs for free.
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whats funny is he is still willing to fork over $30 or $40 bucks for his favorite type of porn
I guess you're talking about the hard drive? Well, he would also steal that if he could.
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Right, and they all got a job of their own, right ? His father doesn't need to feed them buy them clothes, ipods and whatever the fuck teenagers consume this days.



His monetary situation forced him to learn how to procure some of his needs for free.
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Still dont get it. You are very intelligent and i respect what you say, but he doesnt know he is stealing. He assumes that porn sites must have another way of making money, why else are they giving me all this for free? from what i can gather he was just searching for his favorite porn (flower tucci scenes) and stumbled on ovguide, since you know like tubes dominate most adult related searches. And the 17 yr old works and has his own car. I doubt if he was a millionaire he would go back to paying for porn.
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I guess you're talking about the hard drive? Well, he would also steal that if he could.
If walmart all of sudden opened its doors tomorrow and said:
"Everything is free! Dont worry about paying for anything! It would be nice if you pay attention to the banners on the wall and possibly check out one of the nice ads we have on the wall or we put in your shopping cart, but you dont have too!! By the way all of this stuff is really free, but you cant ask us where we got it!!!"

So im guessing you wouldnt take anything?
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Still dont get it. You are very intelligent and i respect what you say, but he doesnt know he is stealing. He assumes that porn sites must have another way of making money, why else are they giving me all this for free? from what i can gather he was just searching for his favorite porn (flower tucci scenes) and stumbled on ovguide, since you know like tubes dominate most adult related searches. And the 17 yr old works and has his own car. I doubt if he was a millionaire he would go back to paying for porn.
I don't really eat that accidental stumble over ovguide. I thought flower tucci is one of
his favorites, he has a pretty big ass collection, for sure he knows by now her site (with
5 years experience as you say) and doesn't accidentally stumble on unrelated sites.

Or maybe he was, it doesn't really matter. Fact is he puts some work into getting his fix
instead of paying for it.
If I wanted, I could put some work and make my food but I'm lazy and prefer to eat in town and pay extra for it.
The business man lonely in a hotel room after failing to get an escort he will push that
PPV button and won't open his notebook and search hundreds of pages to get something
he needs right there right now.
Its all about convenience. If you want to pay for it you can get it now and how you like it.
Otherwise put some work into it and you'll get everything for free, yes even your
handmade car or rocket if you want.
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i love it when people here say its the kids that provide the most traffic for the tubes..

even if that is true, you think they are going to start paying for it as soon as they get a credit card?...





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the guy will never pay for 3dtv, he dont need it for his life. he is happy with ads on porn sites, he will waste his time with closing that shit and enjoying spam in his mailbox. it is his life. but there is and always will be people who will buy 3dtv, as they know that life isnt about wasting time with closing ads and searching where is something more free
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If walmart all of sudden opened its doors tomorrow and said:
"Everything is free! Dont worry about paying for anything! It would be nice if you pay attention to the banners on the wall and possibly check out one of the nice ads we have on the wall or we put in your shopping cart, but you dont have too!! By the way all of this stuff is really free, but you cant ask us where we got it!!!"

So im guessing you wouldnt take anything?
Sure, I would take something.

But to make that analogy, you are assuming the products walmart was giving away for free were all stolen. You are also comparing tangible goods with digital goods, big difference between those two.

If a store decides to give away products for free, which they often do with "get two for the price of one" promos, it's their problem. You're not breaking the law if you take a free product home. However, you are breaking the law if you illegally download copyrighted material.

If that makes any sense.
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So he says hes going to buy this huge harddrive to store all his full length porn scenes on, he loves porn, his favorite is Bangbros, the bangbus specifically, and flower tucci. He has so much porn accumulated over the years its slowing down his computer. He hasnt paid for porn in 5 years. So i ask him if bangbros or realitykings released a hot new episode would he signup just to download the full copy. (i specifically mentioned a recent BB update with pinkyxxx and cherokee d' ass) His exact words: "Why? I can go to Ovguide.com and from there i can watch or download anything I want for free. Some site just have alot of ads but i close those". I LOLed. BTW, he is BLACK, 38, married with 3 kids works at subway part - time and works at a local grocery full time. Wife has nice job. They live in the suburbs. He has no clue what i do.


Just funny how you guys have no clue who your customers where. if it wasnt for the nifty guides out there teaching him how to get free porn or tgp sites explaining to him exactly what a tgp is ect, some bangbros or nastydollars affiliate would be getting paid off this guy for years. congrats to the winners.

*edit i thought it was funny he is still willing to pay for porn just not going to buy from you lol
your co-worker at subway is just like any other married man. no shit he is not going to pay for it because his wife will see the credit card statement.

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Sure, I would take something.

But to make that analogy, you are assuming the products walmart was giving away for free were all stolen. You are also comparing tangible goods with digital goods, big difference between those two.

If a store decides to give away products for free, which they often do with "get two for the price of one" promos, it's their problem. You're not breaking the law if you take a free product home. However, you are breaking the law if you illegally download copyrighted material.

If that makes any sense.
People search for "porn", Google tells them to go to Pornhub and it's all very convenient. They don't know they're breaking the law. People would pay for porn, but it's EASIER to get it for free.

The illegal sites are often more modern and professional looking than the pay sites, why would the surfer think they're doing anything wrong?
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It is so ingrained in the culture worldwide that porn is free---I don't know why you guys toss around words like "thieves" still. I mean, I know why you do, but nothing is being done about it. It's been like this for 3-4 years now. People don't know it is wrong. If all you're ever looking for is to spend a quick 5 minutes to rub one out, why would you ever pay? One click for 35 min streaming porn vs. getting out your wallet, entering all your personal info and CC #? Come on now.
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I imagine if a sure-fire way of embedding porn surfaces, or courts start to close down tubes, or if downloaders become concerned that their sources of so-called (to them, at least) "free" porn" will soon end, that they will spend money on hard-drives and storage devices so they can scurry around and download as much as they possibility can to store up for their future masturbatory needs when porn might "stop being free".

Perhaps it will take a LOT of time for our sales to recover because of the aforementioned possibility of "hoarding" and storing up "free porn". I would hope that the thirst for new/young/fresh porn starlets would alleviate somewhat the downloaders boycotting of new porn.

I wonder!
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I imagine if a sure-fire way of embedding porn surfaces, or courts start to close down tubes, or if downloaders become concerned that their sources of so-called (to them, at least) "free" porn" will soon end, that they will spend money on hard-drives and storage devices so they can scurry around and download as much as they possibility can to store up for their future masturbatory needs when porn might "stop being free".

Perhaps it will take a LOT of time for our sales to recover because of the aforementioned possibility of "hoarding" and storing up "free porn". I would hope that the thirst for new/young/fresh porn starlets would alleviate somewhat the downloaders boycotting of new porn.

I wonder!
No. People want new porn all the time. I'm sure they dread going back to the days of dead members areas and credit-card trickery, but they will do it.
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So he says hes going to buy this huge harddrive to store all his full length porn scenes on, he loves porn, his favorite is Bangbros, the bangbus specifically, and flower tucci. He has so much porn accumulated over the years its slowing down his computer. He hasnt paid for porn in 5 years. So i ask him if bangbros or realitykings released a hot new episode would he signup just to download the full copy. (i specifically mentioned a recent BB update with pinkyxxx and cherokee d' ass) His exact words: "Why? I can go to Ovguide.com and from there i can watch or download anything I want for free. Some site just have alot of ads but i close those". I LOLed. BTW, he is BLACK, 38, married with 3 kids works at subway part - time and works at a local grocery full time. Wife has nice job. They live in the suburbs. He has no clue what i do.


Just funny how you guys have no clue who your customers where. if it wasnt for the nifty guides out there teaching him how to get free porn or tgp sites explaining to him exactly what a tgp is ect, some bangbros or nastydollars affiliate would be getting paid off this guy for years. congrats to the winners.

*edit i thought it was funny he is still willing to pay for porn just not going to buy from you lol
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I imagine if a sure-fire way of embedding porn surfaces, or courts start to close down tubes, or if downloaders become concerned that their sources of so-called (to them, at least) "free" porn" will soon end, that they will spend money on hard-drives and storage devices so they can scurry around and download as much as they possibility can to store up for their future masturbatory needs when porn might "stop being free".

Perhaps it will take a LOT of time for our sales to recover because of the aforementioned possibility of "hoarding" and storing up "free porn". I would hope that the thirst for new/young/fresh porn starlets would alleviate somewhat the downloaders boycotting of new porn.
None of the above will happen.
BTW, the same sharing/stealing/useyourword issue is true for all digital content, not only for porn.
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thats why years ago internet porn ran on the keyword *FREE*. CLick here for *FREE*. the surfer was chasing after a carrot on a stick til he finally got pissed off and bought.

only difference now is its not a lie anymore :D
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The illegal sites are often more modern and professional looking than the pay sites, why would the surfer think they're doing anything wrong?
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Old 01-06-2011, 05:54 PM   #34
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this is the reality now... free porn , free music, free movies free everything on net...
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Old 01-06-2011, 05:59 PM   #35
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How's porn.com doing with their $9.95 pricing?
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Old 01-06-2011, 06:22 PM   #36
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this is the reality now... free porn , free music, free movies free everything on net...
Not so much with the free music any more. A lot of people I talk to won't download for free because they're worried about being sued by the record companies. Plus the lawyers have shut down most of the convenient ways of getting free music. Sure there will always be hardcore geeks who will get it free.

If the porn industry could fund a similar legal effort, things would be better. Could you imagine a "MP3hub" surviving for more than a week? If the site's clear purpose is to violate copywrite, the laywers can shut them down.

Could you imagine if people started getting sued for downloading free porn? Attitudes would change very quickly, as no one wants that kind of imbarrassment in their lives.

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Old 01-06-2011, 06:23 PM   #37
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Old 01-06-2011, 06:24 PM   #38
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It is so ingrained in the culture worldwide that porn is free---I don't know why you guys toss around words like "thieves" still. I mean, I know why you do, but nothing is being done about it. It's been like this for 3-4 years now. People don't know it is wrong. If all you're ever looking for is to spend a quick 5 minutes to rub one out, why would you ever pay? One click for 35 min streaming porn vs. getting out your wallet, entering all your personal info and CC #? Come on now.
hit the nail on the head mon! I understand the copyright argument but since major content owners and producers seem to b ok w it....all i hafta say is......fuck it!
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Old 01-06-2011, 06:52 PM   #41
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Not very funny. I'm just glad there are people that are willing to pay.
agreed...
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Old 01-06-2011, 06:56 PM   #42
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The only thing I find funny is that you morons need to go talk to people to figure out what their opinion of online porn is. Nobody pays for porn anymore, period. All you got paying right now is the stragglers or people with zero comprehension of internet use....
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