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Old 01-20-2011, 09:05 PM   #1
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:2cents Who the fuck gives a shit about what Gervis Thinks?

seriously ....we got bigger problems..
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Old 01-20-2011, 09:06 PM   #2
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what's a gervis? that thing they found up richard gere's asshole?
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Old 01-20-2011, 09:09 PM   #3
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I thought he did a great job.
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Old 01-20-2011, 09:45 PM   #5
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Apparently that neo-nerd society knows as Redditors worship him.

First it was John Stewart. Then Stephen Colbert. Now this fucking moron Rick Gervais.
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As a general rule, I am not into awards shows, so I did not see Ricky Gervais on the Golden Globe awards, however from what I have seen/heard of him, he seems funny and quite clever.



Gervais on God:

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Why don?t you believe in God?

I get that question all the time. I always try to give a sensitive, reasoned answer. This is usually awkward, time consuming and pointless.

People who believe in God don?t need proof of his existence, and they certainly don?t want evidence to the contrary. They are happy with their belief. They even say things like ?it?s true to me? and ?it?s faith.?

I still give my logical answer because I feel that not being honest would be patronizing and impolite. It is ironic therefore that ?I don?t believe in God because there is absolutely no scientific evidence for his existence and from what I?ve heard the very definition is a logical impossibility in this known universe,? comes across as both patronizing and impolite.

[UPDATE: For more from Gervais, go to Does God Exist? Ricky Gervais Takes Your Questions]

Arrogance is another accusation. Which seems particularly unfair. Science seeks the truth. And it does not discriminate. For better or worse it finds things out. Science is humble. It knows what it knows and it knows what it doesn?t know. It bases its conclusions and beliefs on hard evidence - - evidence that is constantly updated and upgraded.

It doesn?t get offended when new facts come along. It embraces the body of knowledge. It doesn?t hold on to medieval practices because they are tradition. If it did, you wouldn?t get a shot of penicillin, you?d pop a leach down your trousers and pray. Whatever you ?believe,? this is not as effective as medicine.

Again you can say, ?It works for me,? but so do placebos. My point being, I?m saying God doesn?t exist. I?m not saying faith doesn?t exist. I know faith exists. I see it all the time. But believing in something doesn?t make it true. Hoping that something is true doesn?t make it true. The existence of God is not subjective. He either exists or he doesn?t. It?s not a matter of opinion. You can have your own opinions. But you can?t have your own facts.

Why don?t I believe in God? No, no no, why do YOU believe in God? Surely the burden of proof is on the believer. You started all this. If I came up to you and said, ?Why don?t you believe I can fly?? You?d say, ?Why would I?? I?d reply, ?Because it?s a matter of faith.? If I then said, ?Prove I can?t fly. Prove I can?t fly see, see, you can?t prove it can you?? You?d probably either walk away, call security or throw me out of the window and shout, ??F?ing fly then you lunatic.?

This, is of course a spirituality issue, religion is a different matter. As an atheist, I see nothing ?wrong? in believing in a god. I don?t think there is a god, but belief in him does no harm. If it helps you in any way, then that?s fine with me.

It?s when belief starts infringing on other people?s rights when it worries me. I would never deny your right to believe in a god. I would just rather you didn?t kill people who believe in a different god, say. Or stone someone to death because your rulebook says their sexuality is immoral.

It?s strange that anyone who believes that an all-powerful all-knowing, omniscient power responsible for everything that happens, would also want to judge and punish people for what they are.

From what I can gather, pretty much the worst type of person you can be is an atheist. The first four commandments hammer this point home. There is a god, I?m him, no one else is, you?re not as good and don?t forget it. (Don?t murder anyone, doesn?t get a mention till number 6.)

When confronted with anyone who holds my lack of religious faith in such contempt, I say, ?It?s the way God made me.?

But what are atheists really being accused of?

The dictionary definition of God is ?a supernatural creator and overseer of the universe.? Included in this definition are all deities, goddesses and supernatural beings. Since the beginning of recorded history, which is defined by the invention of writing by the Sumerians around 6,000 years ago, historians have cataloged over 3700 supernatural beings, of which 2870 can be considered deities.

So next time someone tells me they believe in God, I?ll say ?Oh which one? Zeus? Hades? Jupiter? Mars? Odin? Thor? Krishna? Vishnu? Ra??? If they say ?Just God. I only believe in the one God,? I?ll point out that they are nearly as atheistic as me. I don?t believe in 2,870 gods, and they don?t believe in 2,869.

I used to believe in God. The Christian one that is.

I loved Jesus. He was my hero. More than pop stars. More than footballers. More than God. God was by definition omnipotent and perfect. Jesus was a man. He had to work at it. He had temptation but defeated sin. He had integrity and courage. But He was my hero because He was kind. And He was kind to everyone. He didn?t bow to peer pressure or tyranny or cruelty. He didn?t care who you were. He loved you. What a guy. I wanted to be just like Him.

One day when I was about 8 years old, I was drawing the crucifixion as part of my Bible studies homework. I loved art too. And nature. I loved how God made all the animals. They were also perfect. Unconditionally beautiful. It was an amazing world.

I lived in a very poor, working-class estate in an urban sprawl called Reading, about 40 miles west of London. My father was a laborer and my mother was a housewife. I was never ashamed of poverty. It was almost noble. Also, everyone I knew was in the same situation, and I had everything I needed. School was free. My clothes were cheap and always clean and ironed. And mum was always cooking. She was cooking the day I was drawing on the cross.

I was sitting at the kitchen table when my brother came home. He was 11 years older than me, so he would have been 19. He was as smart as anyone I knew, but he was too cheeky. He would answer back and get into trouble. I was a good boy. I went to church and believed in God -? what a relief for a working-class mother.

You see, growing up where I did, mums didn?t hope as high as their kids growing up to be doctors; they just hoped their kids didn?t go to jail. So bring them up believing in God and they?ll be good and law abiding. It?s a perfect system. Well, nearly.

75 percent of Americans are God-fearing Christians; 75 percent of prisoners are God-fearing Christians. 10 percent of Americans are atheists; 0.2 percent of prisoners are atheists.

But anyway, there I was happily drawing my hero when my big brother Bob asked, ?Why do you believe in God?? Just a simple question. But my mum panicked. ?Bob,? she said in a tone that I knew meant, ?Shut up.? Why was that a bad thing to ask? If there was a God and my faith was strong it didn?t matter what people said.

Oh?hang on. There is no God. He knows it, and she knows it deep down. It was as simple as that. I started thinking about it and asking more questions, and within an hour, I was an atheist.

Wow. No God. If mum had lied to me about God, had she also lied to me about Santa? Yes, of course, but who cares? The gifts kept coming. And so did the gifts of my new found atheism. The gifts of truth, science, nature. The real beauty of this world.

I learned of evolution -? a theory so simple that only England?s greatest genius could have come up with it. Evolution of plants, animals and us ?- with imagination, free will, love, humor. I no longer needed a reason for my existence, just a reason to live. And imagination, free will, love, humor, fun, music, sports, beer and pizza are all good enough reasons for living.

But living an honest life -? for that you need the truth. That?s the other thing I learned that day, that the truth, however shocking or uncomfortable, in the end leads to liberation and dignity.

So what does the question ?Why don?t you believe in God?? really mean.

I think when someone asks that they are really questioning their own belief. In a way they are asking ?what makes you so special? ?How come you weren?t brainwashed with the rest of us?? ?How dare you say I?m a fool and I?m not going to heaven, f? you!?

Let?s be honest, if one person believed in God he would be considered pretty strange. But because it?s a very popular view it?s accepted. And why is it such a popular view? That?s obvious. It?s an attractive proposition. Believe in me and live forever. Again if it was just a case of spirituality this would be fine.

?Do unto others?? is a good rule of thumb. I live by that. Forgiveness is probably the greatest virtue there is. But that?s exactly what it is - ‐ a virtue. Not just a Christian virtue. No one owns being good.

I?m good. I just don?t believe I?ll be rewarded for it in heaven. My reward is here and now. It?s knowing that I try to do the right thing. That I lived a good life. And that?s where spirituality really lost its way. When it became a stick to beat people with. ?Do this or you?ll burn in hell.?

You won?t burn in hell. But be nice anyway.
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Old 01-21-2011, 05:24 AM   #8
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Old 01-21-2011, 06:28 AM   #9
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Didn't he do the awards show?
Didn't he say true things about "celebrities"?
Didn't they get mad when the truth was spoken?
Why are they so special they can do anything they want and we are just suppose to forget it happened and say "oh they are a celebrity"?

Fuck them, they are no better than you or me, If they did it they need to live with it, not be mad when it is mentioned . . .
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there are alot funnier people around than that "bloke"
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i laughed my ass off - fuck political correctness
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Old 01-21-2011, 07:41 AM   #12
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there are alot funnier people around than that "bloke"
like who? remember its a censored show for tv.. you think Seinfeld would be interested? I doubt it... Having to censor yourself makes comedy pretty difficult in my opinion. Think of how many clean comics you know and you'll start to figure out how rare it is these days.
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i laughed my ass off - fuck political correctness
Same here, he was on Pies Morgan last night and he was great!
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Faking rudeness it's the same as faking politeness so...
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Classic!

I've got all his live show on dvd they get better every time. Science was a bit more dark than the previous one's but still fucking funny.
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i have no idea why this is still an issue, ratings are up for whatever the hell the golden globes are supposed to be, he made an international 'intervention' of sorts

all good here
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People who think too highly of themselves or take themselves a little too seriously.

You know, if they banned him from hosting they're idiots. I didnt watch a moment of the show, but the very next day when all the controversy hit, I wished that I had seen the portions of comedy.
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