SEO HOSTING - is it a SCAM? - GoFuckYourself.com

EVERESS · 01-30-2011, 11:28 PM

Tell us what you think of SEO Hosting in this poll.

Fat Panda · 01-30-2011, 11:30 PM

wheres the poll ?

mgtarheels · 01-30-2011, 11:32 PM

The majority of SEO hosting? Yep. It goes a lot deeper than that.

Harmon · 01-30-2011, 11:32 PM

This poll sucks

Agent 488 · 01-30-2011, 11:32 PM

poll fail.

EVERESS · 01-30-2011, 11:34 PM

It must have posted the message immediately because I took a bit of time to adjust the options.

mgtarheels · 01-30-2011, 11:35 PM

SEO Hosting isn't so cut and die as your poll suggests.

EVERESS · 01-30-2011, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

SEO Hosting isn't so cut and die as your poll suggests.

Then enlighten us as your time permits.

Agent 488 · 01-30-2011, 11:37 PM

what's "Markenting"? don't understand your poll.

EVERESS · 01-30-2011, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

what's "Markenting"? don't understand your poll.

Aaaa.. Shit... cant adjust poll now... You Know what I'm Saying.

WiredGuy · 01-30-2011, 11:41 PM

Its not a scam but it doesn't offer much value, a lot of seo hosts will market it as a needed service but most of the time its not. Not to mention most (regular) hosts will give you different C-block IP's if you ask nicely for the same rate.

EVERESS · 01-31-2011, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Its not a scam but it doesn't offer much value

I'd say it had value in the past... but now has no value. Just like Google Progressed through keywords in the domain... at one point it was helpful... but now has been devalued.

nico-t · 01-31-2011, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Its not a scam but it doesn't offer much value, a lot of seo hosts will market it as a needed service but most of the time its not. Not to mention most (regular) hosts will give you different C-block IP's if you ask nicely for the same rate.

true........

Babaganoosh · 01-31-2011, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

SEO Hosting isn't so cut and die as your poll suggests.

"cut and dried"

Barefootsies · 01-31-2011, 05:34 AM

SEO hosting is like anything else. You have to know what you are doing.

I would hazard a guess that most do not know how to set it up right from the get go to maximize the value in the first place, and 90% claiming it doesn't work, have actually never bothered to do it.

I personally enjoy those who are/not webmasters citing some other complete stranger on the internet saying that it doesn't work. While those who actually have spent the time to do it, and set it up correctly, can cite from EXPERIENCE that it does in fact work.

Additionally, I would bet most hosts that are against it can't offer it. They also will go on a rant about how it's a waste of resources and na na na when web hosting in general is an endless waste of resources. Most people do not need high end boxes or bandwidth based on NEED. They buy on PRICE.

Relentless · 01-31-2011, 06:22 AM

There is no money in SEO. It's all a scam.
Please move along ;)

brassmonkey · 01-31-2011, 06:31 AM

if you don't know what your doing it has no value.

just like anything do your research before jumping in. if you don't you lose money.

DamianJ · 01-31-2011, 06:36 AM

Here's an idea.

Let's pretend for a sec that we work in Mainstream, not smut.

In mainstream, when a supplier claims something he then provides proof to back that up.

Rather than calling everyone who says it is a rip off idiots, they publish things called Case Studies. There are reports where a client and a supplier work together. They examine the problem (say SERPS). They then work out a solution (say SEO hosting). They then do *research* that proves that after the solution was implemented, the client saw the problem be removed, or helped. In this case, a higher ranking for chosen terms.

It's so easy to set up, to measure and to prove it works or not I wonder why suppliers do not offer the marketplace such 'proof' if it does actually provide an ROI.

Barefootsies · 01-31-2011, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

In mainstream, when a supplier claims something he then provides proof to back that up.

Or you can look at the fact that large web hosting companies, like Hostgator, offer it.

Hmmm... so a hosting company, which much bigger than most of those in adult space, is offering a product that is a "complete waste of time", snake oil, etc.. Got it.

Emil · 01-31-2011, 06:42 AM

SEO Hosting?

For me it would be a host with plenty of IPs that isn't closely related, what else could they provide that would have something to do with SEO?

EVERESS · 01-31-2011, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

Here's an idea.

Let's pretend for a sec that we work in Mainstream, not smut.

In mainstream, when a supplier claims something he then provides proof to back that up.

Rather than calling everyone who says it is a rip off idiots, they publish things called Case Studies. There are reports where a client and a supplier work together. They examine the problem (say SERPS). They then work out a solution (say SEO hosting). They then do *research* that proves that after the solution was implemented, the client saw the problem be removed, or helped. In this case, a higher ranking for chosen terms.

It's so easy to set up, to measure and to prove it works or not I wonder why suppliers do not offer the marketplace such 'proof' if it does actually provide an ROI.

I totally agree... But even if legit case studies were posted in an environment like here there would be constant debate... A lot of childish trash talking with no points... And Counter articles written by the so called "Trusted" board members here some of which are selling the involved products.

EVERESS · 01-31-2011, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

Rather than calling everyone who says it is a rip off idiots

This is exactly what some do here... They respond to there opponents with 1 sentence statements that have no point. They call them stupid morons etc... and the best one is "its good for those who know how to use it" ... without going into the slightest detail. That again just implies that people are ignorant... Stupid... Etc.

Barefootsies · 01-31-2011, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by EVERESS

I totally agree... But even if legit case studies were posted in an environment like here there would be constant debate... A lot of childish trash talking with no points... And Counter articles written by the so called "Trusted" board members here some of which are selling the involved products.

You can always go do it yourself. Just make sure you set it up properly.

u-Bob · 01-31-2011, 07:25 AM

I currently use 14 different hosting companies because of seo related reasons. However, I stay far away from most companies that offer so called 'seo hosting' because their services offer no advantage over the way I'm already doing things and because most of the time they have no clue what they are doing and in some cases the way they have things set up could actually help Google identify your network.

Agent 488 · 01-31-2011, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by EVERESS

I'd say it had value in the past... but now has no value. Just like Google Progressed through keywords in the domain... at one point it was helpful... but now has been devalued.

at what point was that?

HomerSimpson · 01-31-2011, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

I currently use 14 different hosting companies because of seo related reasons. However, I stay far away from most companies that offer so called 'seo hosting' because their services offer no advantage over the way I'm already doing things and because most of the time they have no clue what they are doing and in some cases the way they have things set up could actually help Google identify your network.

good point...

baddog · 01-31-2011, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ

Here's an idea.

Let's pretend for a sec that we work in Mainstream, not smut.

In mainstream, when a supplier claims something he then provides proof to back that up.

Rather than calling everyone who says it is a rip off idiots, they publish things called Case Studies. There are reports where a client and a supplier work together. They examine the problem (say SERPS). They then work out a solution (say SEO hosting). They then do *research* that proves that after the solution was implemented, the client saw the problem be removed, or helped. In this case, a higher ranking for chosen terms.

It's so easy to set up, to measure and to prove it works or not I wonder why suppliers do not offer the marketplace such 'proof' if it does actually provide an ROI.

They have been done.

EVERESS · 01-31-2011, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

at what point was that?

It had value in the past but not now. ( moving down to your 1 sentence replies here... Oops that's 2 )

View Poll Results: Does SEO Hosting Have Value or is it Old Hat with No Current Value
SEO Hosting - No - It Has No Value	10	32.26%
SEO Hosting - YES - It Has Value and I would use it	8	25.81%
SEO Hosting - is Currently a Markenting SCAM	13	41.94%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

01-30-2011, 11:28 PM	#1
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01-30-2011, 11:34 PM	#6
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01-30-2011, 11:41 PM	#11
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,451	Its not a scam but it doesn't offer much value, a lot of seo hosts will market it as a needed service but most of the time its not. Not to mention most (regular) hosts will give you different C-block IP's if you ask nicely for the same rate. __________________ I play with Google.

01-31-2011, 05:34 AM	#15
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	SEO hosting is like anything else. You have to know what you are doing. I would hazard a guess that most do not know how to set it up right from the get go to maximize the value in the first place, and 90% claiming it doesn't work, have actually never bothered to do it. I personally enjoy those who are/not webmasters citing some other complete stranger on the internet saying that it doesn't work. While those who actually have spent the time to do it, and set it up correctly, can cite from EXPERIENCE that it does in fact work. Additionally, I would bet most hosts that are against it can't offer it. They also will go on a rant about how it's a waste of resources and na na na when web hosting in general is an endless waste of resources. Most people do not need high end boxes or bandwidth based on NEED. They buy on PRICE. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

01-30-2011, 11:30 PM	#2
Fat Panda Porn is Dead. Move along. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,295	wheres the poll ?

01-30-2011, 11:32 PM	#3
mgtarheels Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Daytona Beach, FL Posts: 1,317	The majority of SEO hosting? Yep. It goes a lot deeper than that.

01-30-2011, 11:32 PM	#4
Harmon ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ) Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 20,000	This poll sucks

01-30-2011, 11:32 PM	#5
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	poll fail.

01-30-2011, 11:35 PM	#7
mgtarheels Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Daytona Beach, FL Posts: 1,317	SEO Hosting isn't so cut and die as your poll suggests.

01-30-2011, 11:37 PM	#9
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	what's "Markenting"? don't understand your poll.

01-31-2011, 06:22 AM	#16
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,698	There is no money in SEO. It's all a scam. Please move along ;) __________________ Website Secure \| Engine Food ICQ# 266-942-896

01-31-2011, 06:31 AM	#17
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01-31-2011, 06:36 AM	#18
DamianJ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land Posts: 15,808	Here's an idea. Let's pretend for a sec that we work in Mainstream, not smut. In mainstream, when a supplier claims something he then provides proof to back that up. Rather than calling everyone who says it is a rip off idiots, they publish things called Case Studies. There are reports where a client and a supplier work together. They examine the problem (say SERPS). They then work out a solution (say SEO hosting). They then do research that proves that after the solution was implemented, the client saw the problem be removed, or helped. In this case, a higher ranking for chosen terms. It's so easy to set up, to measure and to prove it works or not I wonder why suppliers do not offer the marketplace such 'proof' if it does actually provide an ROI.

01-31-2011, 06:42 AM	#20
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01-31-2011, 07:25 AM	#24
u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063	I currently use 14 different hosting companies because of seo related reasons. However, I stay far away from most companies that offer so called 'seo hosting' because their services offer no advantage over the way I'm already doing things and because most of the time they have no clue what they are doing and in some cases the way they have things set up could actually help Google identify your network.