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Old 02-03-2011, 11:23 AM   #51
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I have no idea what the fuck someone is doing that could possibly take up 200GB of data.

I upload/download massive video files to clients, watch streaming Netflix, listen to internet radio all day -- and I still could never even come close to a quarter of that each month. If you use more, pay more. It's simple business. What the fuck?
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Old 02-03-2011, 11:23 AM   #52
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The petition is at over 350,000 now and it is Ontario ONLY.
That is a lot of people in one Province that will vote elsewhere.
So they're petitioning to not pay for what they use....makes sense.
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Old 02-03-2011, 11:25 AM   #53
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internet usage limits = terrorism.

good to see the terrorists didn't win today.
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Old 02-03-2011, 11:26 AM   #54
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time to rally folks, not over yet

here is some info of stuff needed:

http://openmedia.ca/blog/help-us-res...-ubb-push-back

rebuttal info compile:

http://curp.primarypad.com/CURP?

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Old 02-03-2011, 11:27 AM   #55
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I have no idea what the fuck someone is doing that could possibly take up 200GB of data.

I upload/download massive video files to clients, watch streaming Netflix, listen to internet radio all day -- and I still could never even come close to a quarter of that each month. If you use more, pay more. It's simple business. What the fuck?
ever download a video game via steam? potentially want to use netflix?

with the 'growth of bandwidth usage', how important do you think this is going to be 5-10 years from now?
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Old 02-03-2011, 11:35 AM   #56
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I knew this wouldn't fly.

If they were going ahead with it anyway I'd hazard a guess that that e-petition thing would go Canada-wide and be in the millions of signatures faster than Harper could say "Shit, let's rethink this one".

I'm with Shaw Cable and have been with them since day 1 of my online business ventures. Bell or whomever it is pushing for this can go suck an egg.
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Old 02-03-2011, 11:39 AM   #57
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ever download a video game via steam? potentially want to use netflix?

with the 'growth of bandwidth usage', how important do you think this is going to be 5-10 years from now?
It's going to be really important. Problem is, the infrastructure isn't in a place at the moment where we can have a set price. It's finite, and if they have to charge more to support the need of some people to download everything on the internet every fucking second of the day, then so be it. I'm not worried about it, because I don't use that much. Why should I worry about someone who uses 10 times more bandwidth than me? Let them pay for it.

I don't pay a high set-price electric bill because the Walmart uses 1000 times more electricity than me -- they pay what they use, and I pay what I use. This concept is escaping all of the folks that think everything should be low-cost/free, regardless of how much they consume. I don't know where this mindset has come from actually, its a new thing that's come up with the current generation of kids that think they're entitled to everything for nothing.

Sounds like a "get off my lawn" speech, but it's true. Tell people they can't download music for free, then they're oppressed by the man. Tell people they have to pay more for the internet they use, then they're oppressed.

I don't want to be on the side of a big corporation, but as a businessman myself, I would be pissed if someone was sucking up more of my services and paying the same price as low-level consumers.
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Old 02-03-2011, 11:55 AM   #58
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So they're petitioning to not pay for what they use....makes sense.
You have it all wrong.

I get 65gb a month for downloading, and I pay for that. If I use more, they will warn me and either A: Allow me to increase and pay an extra $10 a month or whatever, or B: make me pay per GB overage.

They are now proposing that everyone gets a 25gb cap regardless of what you pay, they won't make you pay less, just more if you go over your 25gb. Pretty retarded, especially because the difference in price will now be only for how fast you want your internet speeds to be. Think owning a Bugatti but only ever driving it in a 30MPH zone all your life.

All that speed but capped at 25gb for downloads. Then any overage is $2.25 per GB.

It won't happen tho, in less than a week there has been over 350,000 signatures to the petition in Ontario only. If this was to roll out Canada wide it would be millions of signatures.
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Old 02-03-2011, 12:04 PM   #59
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It's going to be really important. Problem is, the infrastructure isn't in a place at the moment where we can have a set price. It's finite, and if they have to charge more to support the need of some people to download everything on the internet every fucking second of the day, then so be it. I'm not worried about it, because I don't use that much. Why should I worry about someone who uses 10 times more bandwidth than me? Let them pay for it.

I don't pay a high set-price electric bill because the Walmart uses 1000 times more electricity than me -- they pay what they use, and I pay what I use. This concept is escaping all of the folks that think everything should be low-cost/free, regardless of how much they consume. I don't know where this mindset has come from actually, its a new thing that's come up with the current generation of kids that think they're entitled to everything for nothing.

Sounds like a "get off my lawn" speech, but it's true. Tell people they can't download music for free, then they're oppressed by the man. Tell people they have to pay more for the internet they use, then they're oppressed.

I don't want to be on the side of a big corporation, but as a businessman myself, I would be pissed if someone was sucking up more of my services and paying the same price as low-level consumers.
I don't know what it's like in Canada, but I have a problem in general with utility companies raising prices. Not because I'm antibusiness or anticorporate, I'm not. But because those same utility companies get tax subsidies to pay for expansion, they already charge internal taxes for expansion, and yet they still want more and more money for more expansion when they already have expansion money flowing. Where are they using the expansion money they already have? Besides padding their pockets.

You run a business to make money. No doubt. You also have the responsibility to continuously improve your business with the money you are generating. With competition, this usually isn't an issue. When a company has a monopoly, suddenly it becomes an issue because that business is not fighting with other businesses. Utility companies remind me of the government... always wanting more and more money to improve, which they rarely seem to do, instead of cutting back on waste and using the money they already have.
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Old 02-03-2011, 02:23 PM   #60
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Canada's just being upfront about it. Here in the philippines it has been an old complaint that the telcos have caps in place, they just don't tell anyone.
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Canadians should listen to the track below and pour out to the street and TOPPLE THE MAN! (wink)

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