Mainstream Marketing Misconseptions - GoFuckYourself.com

lauralace · 02-07-2011, 06:25 PM

Have you ever wondered how something that is legitimately earning you money every week can be called a scam by someone else?

Here?s one of the main reasons:

People who haven't tried mainstream marketing yet and they just assume that the same 'every man for himself' attitude so prevalent in adult is the same in mainstream. While that may be true in most cases, when it comes to things like fear of competition and keeping trade secrets it just doesn't matter.

There are millions of available niches in mainstream with less than a hundred of those being over-saturated. Once you learn how to change your way of searching for niches from adult methods to mainstream methods the opportunities are near limitless!

There are also no real 'trade secrets'. Everything you need to know to be successful in mainstream is available on the net, for free.

If you're prepared to hunker down and spend the 20 or 30 hours researching and tracking down these 'secrets' then you'll do just fine. You might have to do some extensive testing to separate the good 'secrets' from the crap but once you do, you'll be set. The true methods, unlike the overnight fads that only work for awhile, have been working for years and will continue to work for years to come because they don't rely on 'tricks' or bullshit but rather on quality and fact.

One of the other main reasons people call mainstream marketing a scam is how many people are simply looking for a get rich quick scheme.

They try some new fad, fail miserably, then they quit, call it a scam, and jump to another opportunity where they fail again. This causes them to start to have a negative view about all opportunities in the Internet marketing industry as a scam. It?s a shame!!!

The problem is that spending money in an attempt to get rich fast with little to no effort is an illusion. If you want to have a better income, then you need to become a better you with better skills and learn the methods that work rather than the fads that fade away. You need to put in some effort. Robert Kiyosaki said it best in his book Rich Dad, Poor Dad: ?Don?t do anything for the money you will make, but instead for the skills you will learn.?

So, this is a scam alert and I do want you to avoid it. Avoid trying to make A quick few bucks and instead learn the skills you need to build yourself an ongoing fortune over time. Once you do, you'll understand why I feel compelled to share what I've learned to keep my good karma flowing! I also donate a few thousand to charity every year

Does that make me a bad person?

My method has long since changed my life and is the reason I have the ability to outsource most of my work and spend a big chunk of my time playing video games and surfing the net.

Note: If you already make more than a few thousand a month in mainstream, my method is NOT for you. You've already learned what you need to know to succeed and odds are, all my book will do is repeat what you already know.

Don?t jump around from method to method. Stay Focused, persistent and consistent and keep being a success.

If you're not a success yet, are prepared to commit some effort, and would rather have all the info you need all in one place so you don't have to spend the time tracking it all down for yourself, than this method is for you.

Visit Mainstream Marketing Basics and learn the methods that will sustain your business for years to come.

Here is an example: "Lose Weight" is highly saturated and has such a high amount of competition that you would be insane to try and target that phrase. But it's such a high demand niche that you really want to get a piece of that billion dollar pie.

SO think outside the box. Use long tails. Use what people are searching for to know what they need.

swimming to lose weight
lose thigh fat
weight loss motivation tips
drinking water to lose weight
best foods to burn fat
lose 20 pounds
fastest way to burn fat
weight training
best exercise to burn calories
tracking calorie intake
weight loss tips and tricks

are all niches that people search for within the weight loss niche. There are literally thousands of ways to get into to this incredibly lucrative market. You just have to know what you're looking for.

Remember! YOU are not your target market. Joe public is. Just because YOU hate popups and cookie cutter sales pages doesn't make them work on the average consumer any less.

Good Luck and Great Success!

pristine · 02-07-2011, 06:26 PM

itto · 02-07-2011, 06:30 PM

running gag..

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Kiopa_Matt · 02-07-2011, 06:33 PM

Have you ever wondered why people who have figured out the "secret" of making money online, spend so much time trying to sell their secret to others, instead of just implementing it themselves and becoming rich?

If you have the methodology figured out, you're going to be much better off just implementing it, then trying to sell some shitty $20 eBook on a porn webmaster board.

pristine · 02-07-2011, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt

Have you ever wondered why people who have figured out the "secret" of making money online, spend so much time trying to sell their secret to others, instead of just implementing it themselves and becoming rich?

If you have the methodology figured out, you're going to be much better off just implementing it, then trying to sell some shitty $20 eBook on a porn webmaster board.

It's because she has no fucking clue what she's talking about.

OP: Please show us some mainstream sites and terms you rank for

Kiopa_Matt · 02-07-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pristine

OP: Please show us some mainstream sites and terms you rank for

Exactly. Taking marketing advice from someone like this, is about the same as taking investment & financial advice from a homeless guy. Probably not going to bode well for you.

lauralace · 02-07-2011, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt

Have you ever wondered why people who have figured out the "secret" of making money online, spend so much time trying to sell their secret to others, instead of just implementing it themselves and becoming rich?

Because if they're anything like me, they've outsourced everything, and are bored with world of warcraft and some friends on a private adult forum convinced them that the method ought to be shared.

That's why instead of charging $297 like the scammers and bullshit 'gurus' all I ask is the cost of recovering my advertising costs from GFY ads and linkspun ads

As the article says. There IS no secret.

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Originally Posted by lauralace

There are also no real 'trade secrets'. Everything you need to know to be successful in mainstream is available on the net, for free.

You absolutely do NOT need this book. You can find everything you need with research and trial and error testing. This book merely saves you time having it all in one place and leaves out the garbage get rich quick bullshit.

Kiopa_Matt · 02-07-2011, 06:50 PM

I don't know, maybe we're just different breeds of people then. Because if I was making loads of cash without having to put in working hours, I'm pretty sure I could find someone better to do with my time than posting on GFY.

But hey, I'm weird like that.

CYF · 02-07-2011, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lauralace

Because if they're anything like me, they've outsourced everything, and are bored with world of warcraft and some friends on a private adult forum convinced them that the method ought to be shared.

so hanging out with a bunch of adult webmasters is fun for you?

lauralace · 02-07-2011, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt

I don't know, maybe we're just different breeds of people then. Because if I was making loads of cash without having to put in working hours, I'm pretty sure I could find someone better to do with my time than posting on GFY.

But hey, I'm weird like that.

So did I for many years. Then I read a self help/positive attitude book that talked about giving back once you 'make it'. So I posted the 'method' on a private forum I'm on and they really liked the help and on an educational adult forum I posted a bunch of tutorials that went over well, so I thought what the hell hehe.

Oh, and I do put in some work. I just don't do much writing or building anymore. I mostly just do the marketing on my mainstream stuff. Now my adult I still handle all the link trading and building, only outsource the writing and graphics. But that still doesn't take up whole days very often.

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Originally Posted by CYF

so hanging out with a bunch of adult webmasters is fun for you?

I do have adult sites I still work on, so yeah I read and stay up to date here and 3 other adult forums

itto · 02-07-2011, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lauralace

I do have adult sites I still work on, so yeah I read and stay up to date here and 3 other adult forums

what other forums?

harvey · 02-07-2011, 07:12 PM

You ruined my day, now I realize I wasted 5 years in university

damn, they should have had one of these miraculous e-books back then

pristine · 02-07-2011, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pristine

It's because she has no fucking clue what she's talking about.

OP: Please show us some mainstream sites and terms you rank for

I'll quote myself since she accidentally missed it.

alias · 02-07-2011, 07:56 PM

MMO 4L

CashOnClick · 02-07-2011, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lauralace

Then I read a self help/positive attitude book that talked about giving back once you 'make it'

Hold on that principle only works if you give something back for free or as a gift does it not ? so charging like 20 bucks or whatever means you just misunderstood the concept of the whole "giving" back thing ? and as for its to cover your advertising costs, why would you need to advertise the fact you were giving something back ? and besides even if you did then you already made more than enough money to be able to foot the bill on a few adverts yeah ?

With all due respect I am not having a go at you, I am only asking some questions that cropped up in my mind....

In my own experience I have found that "doing as you mainstream marketers do is the real key and take no notice of what the mainstream marketers say"

If you truly want to give something back then email me that E-Book to andy /at/ cashonclick.com and let me have a read of it and confirm if it is just a mash up of other duff info or if it really does contain anything of use without trying to get 10 upsales on other stuff that is not needed

Anyway you got a slightly different approach to the rest of them so 10 out of 10 for effort with that

marketsmart · 02-07-2011, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lauralace

Have you ever wondered how something that is legitimately earning you money every week can be called a scam by someone else?

Here?s one of the main reasons:

People who haven't tried mainstream marketing yet and they just assume that the same 'every man for himself' attitude so prevalent in adult is the same in mainstream. While that may be true in most cases, when it comes to things like fear of competition and keeping trade secrets it just doesn't matter.

There are millions of available niches in mainstream with less than a hundred of those being over-saturated. Once you learn how to change your way of searching for niches from adult methods to mainstream methods the opportunities are near limitless!

There are also no real 'trade secrets'. Everything you need to know to be successful in mainstream is available on the net, for free.

If you're prepared to hunker down and spend the 20 or 30 hours researching and tracking down these 'secrets' then you'll do just fine. You might have to do some extensive testing to separate the good 'secrets' from the crap but once you do, you'll be set. The true methods, unlike the overnight fads that only work for awhile, have been working for years and will continue to work for years to come because they don't rely on 'tricks' or bullshit but rather on quality and fact.

One of the other main reasons people call mainstream marketing a scam is how many people are simply looking for a get rich quick scheme.

They try some new fad, fail miserably, then they quit, call it a scam, and jump to another opportunity where they fail again. This causes them to start to have a negative view about all opportunities in the Internet marketing industry as a scam. It?s a shame!!!

The problem is that spending money in an attempt to get rich fast with little to no effort is an illusion. If you want to have a better income, then you need to become a better you with better skills and learn the methods that work rather than the fads that fade away. You need to put in some effort. Robert Kiyosaki said it best in his book Rich Dad, Poor Dad: ?Don?t do anything for the money you will make, but instead for the skills you will learn.?

So, this is a scam alert and I do want you to avoid it. Avoid trying to make A quick few bucks and instead learn the skills you need to build yourself an ongoing fortune over time. Once you do, you'll understand why I feel compelled to share what I've learned to keep my good karma flowing! I also donate a few thousand to charity every year

Does that make me a bad person?

My method has long since changed my life and is the reason I have the ability to outsource most of my work and spend a big chunk of my time playing video games and surfing the net.

Note: If you already make more than a few thousand a month in mainstream, my method is NOT for you. You've already learned what you need to know to succeed and odds are, all my book will do is repeat what you already know.

Don?t jump around from method to method. Stay Focused, persistent and consistent and keep being a success.

If you're not a success yet, are prepared to commit some effort, and would rather have all the info you need all in one place so you don't have to spend the time tracking it all down for yourself, than this method is for you.

Visit Mainstream Marketing Basics and learn the methods that will sustain your business for years to come.

Here is an example: "Lose Weight" is highly saturated and has such a high amount of competition that you would be insane to try and target that phrase. But it's such a high demand niche that you really want to get a piece of that billion dollar pie.

SO think outside the box. Use long tails. Use what people are searching for to know what they need.

swimming to lose weight
lose thigh fat
weight loss motivation tips
drinking water to lose weight
best foods to burn fat
lose 20 pounds
fastest way to burn fat
weight training
best exercise to burn calories
tracking calorie intake
weight loss tips and tricks

are all niches that people search for within the weight loss niche. There are literally thousands of ways to get into to this incredibly lucrative market. You just have to know what you're looking for.

Remember! YOU are not your target market. Joe public is. Just because YOU hate popups and cookie cutter sales pages doesn't make them work on the average consumer any less.

Good Luck and Great Success!

based on your post, you no fuck all about mainstream marketing....

i make more money on my golf niche than most people will ever dream about making in weight loss and i have weight loss sites..

with googles new algo that de values links and punishes sites with dupe content, the better tip would be find something that you are interested in and write a ton of unique content that other sites will scrape...

if the traffic is there, you can write about horse shit (if you are interested in that) and make money...

rinse and repeat....

.

pristine · 02-07-2011, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

based on your post, you no fuck all about mainstream marketing....

i make more money on my golf niche than most people will ever dream about making in weight loss and i have weight loss sites..

with googles new algo that de values links and punishes sites with dupe content, the better tip would be find something that you are interested in and write a ton of unique content that other sites will scrape...

if the traffic is there, you can write about horse shit (if you are interested in that) and make money...

rinse and repeat....

.

lol that was a lot to type for this retarded thread, hats off to you.

react · 02-07-2011, 09:05 PM

Post 1099's or gtfo.

lauralace · 02-07-2011, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by itto

what other forums?

I don't think I'm allowed to say?

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Originally Posted by harvey

You ruined my day, now I realize I wasted 5 years in university

damn, they should have had one of these miraculous e-books back then

Nothing miraculous here. Just years of hard work.

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Originally Posted by lauralace

As the article says. There IS no secret.

You absolutely do NOT need this book. You can find everything you need with research and trial and error testing. This book merely saves you time having it all in one place and leaves out the garbage get rich quick bullshit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pristine

I'll quote myself since she accidentally missed it.

You're certainly welcome to look me up. "Aphrodite Web Design" shows up on over half of my sites. As for terms I rank for, there are millions of available terms. You don't need mine

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Originally Posted by CashOnClick

Hold on that principle only works if you give something back for free or as a gift does it not ? so charging like 20 bucks or whatever means you just misunderstood the concept of the whole "giving" back thing ? and as for its to cover your advertising costs, why would you need to advertise the fact you were giving something back ? and besides even if you did then you already made more than enough money to be able to foot the bill on a few adverts yeah ?

I did give it for free on the only forum that didn't charge me to share it

I will be happy to give a review copy to someone who honestly wants to get into mainstream and is having trouble getting started. PM me with what you can't figure out so I know you're serious.

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

based on your post, you no fuck all about mainstream marketing....

i make more money on my golf niche than most people will ever dream about making in weight loss and i have weight loss sites..

.

Yeah I used weight loss as an example of course

I make much more with beer brewing, MMA, video games, and recipe sites than any weight loss sites. The book does cover that finding a niche you have a passion for is far more lucrative and in fact in many niches, like tech and video games for instance, your surfers can definitely tell if you're faking.

BJ · 02-07-2011, 09:17 PM

change your avatar, you remind me of a lady that has 25 cats.

pristine · 02-07-2011, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BJ

change your avatar, you remind me of a lady that has 25 cats.

Harmon · 02-07-2011, 09:25 PM

CYF · 02-07-2011, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lauralace

I did give it for free on the only forum that didn't charge me to share it

I will be happy to give a review copy to someone who honestly wants to get into mainstream and is having trouble getting started. PM me with what you can't figure out so I know you're serious.

there's no PM on this board.

lauralace · 02-07-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BJ

change your avatar, you remind me of a lady that has 25 cats.

lol I do actually have 3 cats

3 grown children too hehe.

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Originally Posted by lauralace

You're certainly welcome to look me up. "Aphrodite Web Design" shows up on over half of my sites. As for terms I rank for, there are millions of available terms. You don't need mine

I forgot to mention you're also welcome to trade with me on linkspun if you like

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Originally Posted by CYF

there's no PM on this board.

that sucks

well I am not willing to post my email here, but I still welcome anyone interested to post here or give me their email info and we can correspond that way.

Harmon · 02-07-2011, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lauralace

well I am not willing to post my email here, but I still welcome anyone interested to post here or give me their email info and we can correspond that way.

lol; Yahoo, Hotmail, Gmail... try them, they are free and anonymous. Something tells me this online thing is a little newer to you than you are letting on.

lauralace · 02-08-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

lol; Yahoo, Hotmail, Gmail... try them, they are free and anonymous. Something tells me this online thing is a little newer to you than you are letting on.

I do use yahoo and gmail, but I see no point in opening up a brand new account used to give something away for free. If your'e not willing to post your own contact information, than I'd hazard a guess you don't have the commitment it takes to succeed in mainstream anyway so even reading this thread was a waste of your time

For those serious however, my icq is 556465379 if that makes like easier.

pristine · 02-08-2011, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pristine

OP: Please show us some mainstream sites and terms you rank for

lauralace · 02-08-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pristine

scroll up

Sausage · 02-08-2011, 09:30 PM

No wonder people don't try to help here on GFY if they all get the reception Laura has.

Young · 02-09-2011, 12:00 AM

A common misconception is that misconception is spelled with an "s" like it is in the title of this thread.

Young · 02-09-2011, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lauralace

So did I for many years. Then I read a self help/positive attitude book that talked about giving back once you 'make it'. So I posted the 'method' on a private forum I'm on and they really liked the help and on an educational adult forum I posted a bunch of tutorials that went over well, so I thought what the hell hehe.

Are you really going through all of this trouble for a couple of sales?

Let me guess....rent is due?

02-07-2011, 06:25 PM	#1
lauralace Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 138	Mainstream Marketing Misconseptions Have you ever wondered how something that is legitimately earning you money every week can be called a scam by someone else? Here?s one of the main reasons: People who haven't tried mainstream marketing yet and they just assume that the same 'every man for himself' attitude so prevalent in adult is the same in mainstream. While that may be true in most cases, when it comes to things like fear of competition and keeping trade secrets it just doesn't matter. There are millions of available niches in mainstream with less than a hundred of those being over-saturated. Once you learn how to change your way of searching for niches from adult methods to mainstream methods the opportunities are near limitless! There are also no real 'trade secrets'. Everything you need to know to be successful in mainstream is available on the net, for free. If you're prepared to hunker down and spend the 20 or 30 hours researching and tracking down these 'secrets' then you'll do just fine. You might have to do some extensive testing to separate the good 'secrets' from the crap but once you do, you'll be set. The true methods, unlike the overnight fads that only work for awhile, have been working for years and will continue to work for years to come because they don't rely on 'tricks' or bullshit but rather on quality and fact. One of the other main reasons people call mainstream marketing a scam is how many people are simply looking for a get rich quick scheme. They try some new fad, fail miserably, then they quit, call it a scam, and jump to another opportunity where they fail again. This causes them to start to have a negative view about all opportunities in the Internet marketing industry as a scam. It?s a shame!!! The problem is that spending money in an attempt to get rich fast with little to no effort is an illusion. If you want to have a better income, then you need to become a better you with better skills and learn the methods that work rather than the fads that fade away. You need to put in some effort. Robert Kiyosaki said it best in his book Rich Dad, Poor Dad: ?Don?t do anything for the money you will make, but instead for the skills you will learn.? So, this is a scam alert and I do want you to avoid it. Avoid trying to make A quick few bucks and instead learn the skills you need to build yourself an ongoing fortune over time. Once you do, you'll understand why I feel compelled to share what I've learned to keep my good karma flowing! I also donate a few thousand to charity every year Does that make me a bad person? My method has long since changed my life and is the reason I have the ability to outsource most of my work and spend a big chunk of my time playing video games and surfing the net. Note: If you already make more than a few thousand a month in mainstream, my method is NOT for you. You've already learned what you need to know to succeed and odds are, all my book will do is repeat what you already know. Don?t jump around from method to method. Stay Focused, persistent and consistent and keep being a success. If you're not a success yet, are prepared to commit some effort, and would rather have all the info you need all in one place so you don't have to spend the time tracking it all down for yourself, than this method is for you. Visit Mainstream Marketing Basics and learn the methods that will sustain your business for years to come. Here is an example: "Lose Weight" is highly saturated and has such a high amount of competition that you would be insane to try and target that phrase. But it's such a high demand niche that you really want to get a piece of that billion dollar pie. SO think outside the box. Use long tails. Use what people are searching for to know what they need. swimming to lose weight lose thigh fat weight loss motivation tips drinking water to lose weight best foods to burn fat lose 20 pounds fastest way to burn fat weight training best exercise to burn calories tracking calorie intake weight loss tips and tricks are all niches that people search for within the weight loss niche. There are literally thousands of ways to get into to this incredibly lucrative market. You just have to know what you're looking for. Remember! YOU are not your target market. Joe public is. Just because YOU hate popups and cookie cutter sales pages doesn't make them work on the average consumer any less. Good Luck and Great Success! __________________ There are many differences between adult and mainstream. Learn how to make Mainstream Marketing work for you! FREE Marketing Course! Home Income

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