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Kiopa_Matt · 02-17-2011, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Yeah, we wasted time, lives and treasure for their asses, no doubt.

You still seem to be under the delusional notion that the US did the Iraqis a favor by invading their country. That's about as ridiculous as saying China would do the US a favor by invading, and ridding you guys of your ridiculous 2 (well, one) party system who can't get anything meaningful done.

Notice places like Tunisia and Egypt? That's how democracy comes to be. Not by cruise missiles, "shock & awe" campaigns, and 100,000 soldiers.

Vendzilla · 02-17-2011, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt

You still seem to be under the delusional notion that the US did the Iraqis a favor by invading their country. That's about as ridiculous as saying China would do the US a favor by invading, and ridding you guys of your ridiculous 2 (well, one) party system who can't get anything meaningful done.

Notice places like Tunisia and Egypt? That's how democracy comes to be. Not by cruise missiles, "shock & awe" campaigns, and 100,000 soldiers.

How else are we going to develop meaningful video games?

Vick! · 02-17-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangermoore

Fuck them & their country..

Am sure they feel same about you and your country.

Barry-xlovecam · 02-17-2011, 03:52 PM

Quite to the contrary, in my opinion we should have contained Saddam's Iraqi government within the terms of the UN Ceasefire. Continued the no fly zone enforcement and the embargo.

As long as Saddam stayed in power we should have contained that government regardless of human cost.

Instead, the US conducted an illegal invasion based on false evidence. Iraq had little if nothing to do with the events of 9/11 and our (the US) incursion resulted in large amounts of death on all sides ? apparently for little. More Americans died in Iraq than in the 9/11 attacks. What possible explanation is there to offer to the families of all that died on all sides? There is none but rhetoric and excuses.

Dead is dead.

It was not the place of a US led invasion to overturn a sovereign government ? even one of a harsh dictator. If the Iraqi people lacked the necessary fortitude to overturn their taskmaster ? they deserved what they got...

2012 · 02-17-2011, 03:53 PM

they hate us for our freedom

blackmonsters · 02-17-2011, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 2012

they hate us for our freedom

They are jealous of our full body scanners too.
Those Iraqi chicks are probably dying for a TSA pat down.

MaDalton · 02-17-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

Ok deal, but they got to pay us back for the couple trillion we spent liberating their asses.

not so sure all of them wanted to be liberated...

and also not so sure if they feel much better now

maybe you should forward that invoice to Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld - they made surely enough off of it to take care of it

just a punk · 02-17-2011, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangermoore

Baghdad wants U.S. to pay $1 billion for damage to city

Sounds very reasonable

JFK · 02-17-2011, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

Colin Powel told George Bush its like Pottery Barn , you break it you bought it. They didnt ask us to come in.

mineistaken · 02-17-2011, 08:18 PM

Who cares, they will just print that 1 billion dollars as they do so nonstop anyway

ColBigBalls · 02-17-2011, 10:31 PM

Its cool once they find the WMD's it will all get smoothed out... Right?

BFT3K · 02-17-2011, 10:40 PM

Make these retards pay for it...

Zyber · 02-18-2011, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Yeah, we wasted time, lives and treasure for their asses, no doubt.

You mean for their oil, right?

Oil supplied to the US for prices below market value? There is a reason why gas is so damn cheap in the US. It was bought in bulk at gunpoint.

Another aim of the war has been to secure valuable contracts for the reconstruction of the damaged infrastructure. Coincidence that these contracts went to American companies and their allies?

If this had anything to do with "liberating the Iraqi people", the Iraqis would not be seen as the enemy, but as fellow humans. Of course the Iraqis are "enemies" when they have the rights to the natural resources that our Western bubble economies depend on.

Big business in bloodshed.

This post was not pointed directly at you Barry.

Emil · 02-18-2011, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 2012

they hate us for our freedom

ajrocks · 02-18-2011, 07:07 AM

Why shouldn't the US pay for the damage? Did they ask the US to come blow them in to the dark ages? The US decided they needed to go in there for weapons of mass destruction that were sold to them by the US. Pay up bitches!

Barry-xlovecam · 02-18-2011, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Zyber

You mean for their oil, right? ...There is a reason why gas is so damn cheap in the US. It was bought in bulk at gunpoint...

Just paid the gas bill;
$10.02 cu foot
$83.87 cu meter

That is cheap?

SmokeyTheBear · 02-18-2011, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Just paid the gas bill;
$10.02 cu foot
$83.87 cu meter

That is cheap?

gasoline is cheaper than water.... that is pretty cheap.. water is just pulled from the ground and put in a bottle, done. Gas is extracted using costly chemicals and processed using other costly methods. pretty cheap when you think about it.

Barry-xlovecam · 02-18-2011, 08:30 AM

I pump my own water.

electric + amortization of the well. Cheaper than city water and no chlorine.
City Sewer is $92/Quarter that's a dollar a day just to flush ...

But that is not the real point. A great part of oil costs are the government taxes assessed ... Hence, the perception of "cheap" US energy. The taxs on fuel are lower in the US than in the EU ? this is the primary reason.

blackout · 02-18-2011, 01:49 PM

Good to see that people still like to talk out of their fucking asses.

"delusional notion that we did them a favor"... Maybe you should talk to the non-insurgent Iraqi's and find out what life was like when Saddam had his men come through their towns and beat the shit out of their families, or kill a few... Just to keep things "running smoothly".

"the 100s or 1000s of innocents that were murdered" - That's the biggest slap in the face if I ever heard one. Do you think about things you say, or do you just spew this diarrhea regularly?

I don't hate Iraqi's... I have met some real good guys over here. But after seeing how much money has gone out to the Iraqi's in Microgrants (I personally have paid out over $100,000 to Civilians to start businesses), and also going in to their infrastructure, I don't agree that they should be making any demands.

Why don't some of you Arm-Chair Generals get off your ass and do something about it if you think you can do this shit better. 90% of you are just retards with a google button.

RangerMoore, I say keep your check book in your pocket.

WarChild · 02-18-2011, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Zyber

You mean for their oil, right?

Oil supplied to the US for prices below market value? There is a reason why gas is so damn cheap in the US. It was bought in bulk at gunpoint.

Oh that makes complete sense to me now! Thanks a ton for clearing that all up. Here I was thinking that the largest supplier of Oil to the US was Canada. Silly me.

_Richard_ · 02-18-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Oh that makes complete sense to me now! Thanks a ton for clearing that all up. Here I was thinking that the largest supplier of Oil to the US was Canada. Silly me.

in light of current events, we'd appreciate if that wasn't as advertised

seeandsee · 02-18-2011, 01:57 PM

pay them 1 billion and take form oil 10 billions every yr

Rochard · 02-18-2011, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Quite to the contrary, in my opinion we should have contained Saddam's Iraqi government within the terms of the UN Ceasefire. Continued the no fly zone enforcement and the embargo.

As long as Saddam stayed in power we should have contained that government regardless of human cost.

Instead, the US conducted an illegal invasion based on false evidence. Iraq had little if nothing to do with the events of 9/11 and our (the US) incursion resulted in large amounts of death on all sides ? apparently for little. More Americans died in Iraq than in the 9/11 attacks. What possible explanation is there to offer to the families of all that died on all sides? There is none but rhetoric and excuses.

Dead is dead.

It was not the place of a US led invasion to overturn a sovereign government ? even one of a harsh dictator. If the Iraqi people lacked the necessary fortitude to overturn their taskmaster ? they deserved what they got...

We "contained" Iraq for how long? We call Clinton a damn pussy for his failure to act but the truth is during the entire Clinton term we were bombing Iraq?

Illegal invasion? Let me spell it out to you. You fire on a US warplane, it's an act of war. Period. We patrolled a UN enforce no fly zone, agreed upon by Iraq, and they fired on us. Daily. No illegal invasion. They fired at us, daily, for years, we invaded. That's how wars fucking work.

huey · 02-18-2011, 02:36 PM

WMD tax = 1 billion

Zyber · 02-18-2011, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Illegal invasion? Let me spell it out to you. You fire on a US warplane, it's an act of war. Period. We patrolled a UN enforce no fly zone, agreed upon by Iraq, and they fired on us. Daily. No illegal invasion. They fired at us, daily, for years, we invaded. That's how wars fucking work.

Yeah, sure you were just attacked, and had to retaliate.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle387374.ece
From the Downing Street Memo: 23 July 2002
(8-9 months before the Iraq war begun)

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The Defence Secretary said that the US had already begun "spikes of activity" to put pressure on the regime. No decisions had been taken, but he thought the most likely timing in US minds for military action to begin was January, with the timeline beginning 30 days before the US Congressional elections.

The Foreign Secretary said he would discuss this with Colin Powell this week. It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided. But the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbours, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran. We should work up a plan for an ultimatum to Saddam to allow back in the UN weapons inspectors. This would also help with the legal justification for the use of force.

The Attorney-General said that the desire for regime change was not a legal base for military action. There were three possible legal bases: self-defence, humanitarian intervention, or UNSC authorisation. The first and second could not be the base in this case. Relying on UNSCR 1205 of three years ago would be difficult. The situation might of course change.

Now, who attacked first?

Zyber · 02-18-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Oh that makes complete sense to me now! Thanks a ton for clearing that all up. Here I was thinking that the largest supplier of Oil to the US was Canada. Silly me.

I never claimed that Iraq was the largest oil supplier.

Robbie · 02-18-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

I can see their point.

BTW, $1 billion is pocket lint. It's actually kind of funny they asked for so little.

Yeah, that wouldn't buy the lobby of the Venetian here in Vegas.

Barry-xlovecam · 02-18-2011, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

We "contained" Iraq for how long? We call Clinton a damn pussy for his failure to act but the truth is during the entire Clinton term we were bombing Iraq?

Illegal invasion? Let me spell it out to you. You fire on a US warplane, it's an act of war. Period. We patrolled a UN enforce no fly zone, agreed upon by Iraq, and they fired on us. Daily. No illegal invasion. They fired at us, daily, for years, we invaded. That's how wars fucking work.

It cost 12 billion a year to contain Saddam's Iraq. How much did it cost to invade and "conquer?"

BTW, if a foreign air force was flying over your head denying you use of your sovereign airspace ? just what the hell would you do?

"That's how wars fucking work" ? that's been true for 5,000 years and men are still making war and trying to justify it ... God told me to ... My country is stronger so we can fuck you guys up. ...

Actually, Saddam never did squat to me personally, I think he was a shitbag but I don't try to kill everyone I think a shitbag. Most are inconsequential shitbags ...

directfiesta · 02-18-2011, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Illegal invasion? Let me spell it out to you. You fire on a US warplane, it's an act of war. Period. We patrolled a UN enforce no fly zone, agreed upon by Iraq, and they fired on us. Daily. No illegal invasion. They fired at us, daily, for years, we invaded. That's how wars fucking work.

I proved you over and over again that the so-called no-fly zones were NOT UN sanctioned, but put in place by the US-UK-FR ( later which pulled out after seeing the result ) without any other reasons then creating a climate favorable to a rupture of the country.

Do I really need those link to all the threads were I proved you uneducated ?

Zyber · 02-19-2011, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

But that is not the real point. A great part of oil costs are the government taxes assessed ... Hence, the perception of "cheap" US energy. The taxs on fuel are lower in the US than in the EU — this is the primary reason.

Good point.

I have to agree that this factor should also be considered.

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

The current estimate for how much oil Iraq has is 112 billion barrels of oil - the world's second largest proven reserves (much more undiscovered). When we formed their government part of the condition was they sign away 25% of the their total reserves to the US. In short, 28 billion (discovered reserves) barrels of oil. Average price for a barrel of oil this year is $85.

Anyone want to do the math? 28 billion x $85. Also, for every barrel of oil sold 37% of the revenue is taxed by the Feds and State governments.

2380 billion worth of oil? That's a big chunk of US public debt. In 2002 it equalled roughly 50% of the gross US public debt. You do the conclusions.

http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/downc...or=c&l ocal=s

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Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	Quite to the contrary, in my opinion we should have contained Saddam's Iraqi government within the terms of the UN Ceasefire. Continued the no fly zone enforcement and the embargo. As long as Saddam stayed in power we should have contained that government regardless of human cost. Instead, the US conducted an illegal invasion based on false evidence. Iraq had little if nothing to do with the events of 9/11 and our (the US) incursion resulted in large amounts of death on all sides ? apparently for little. More Americans died in Iraq than in the 9/11 attacks. What possible explanation is there to offer to the families of all that died on all sides? There is none but rhetoric and excuses. Dead is dead. It was not the place of a US led invasion to overturn a sovereign government ? even one of a harsh dictator. If the Iraqi people lacked the necessary fortitude to overturn their taskmaster ? they deserved what they got...

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Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	I pump my own water. electric + amortization of the well. Cheaper than city water and no chlorine. City Sewer is $92/Quarter that's a dollar a day just to flush ... But that is not the real point. A great part of oil costs are the government taxes assessed ... Hence, the perception of "cheap" US energy. The taxs on fuel are lower in the US than in the EU ? this is the primary reason.

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blackout Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: From Orlando, Stationed in Hawaii Posts: 615	Good to see that people still like to talk out of their fucking asses. "delusional notion that we did them a favor"... Maybe you should talk to the non-insurgent Iraqi's and find out what life was like when Saddam had his men come through their towns and beat the shit out of their families, or kill a few... Just to keep things "running smoothly". "the 100s or 1000s of innocents that were murdered" - That's the biggest slap in the face if I ever heard one. Do you think about things you say, or do you just spew this diarrhea regularly? I don't hate Iraqi's... I have met some real good guys over here. But after seeing how much money has gone out to the Iraqi's in Microgrants (I personally have paid out over $100,000 to Civilians to start businesses), and also going in to their infrastructure, I don't agree that they should be making any demands. Why don't some of you Arm-Chair Generals get off your ass and do something about it if you think you can do this shit better. 90% of you are just retards with a google button. RangerMoore, I say keep your check book in your pocket. __________________ ICQ: 42777193 Last edited by blackout; 02-18-2011 at 01:56 PM..

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