Pirate Economics 101: Who?s Making Money From Torrents? - GoFuckYourself.com

DVTimes · 02-23-2011, 10:52 AM

http://gigaom.com/video/pirate-econo...from-torrents/

Most of the content on major torrent sites comes from relatively few uploaders, and a significant portion of them are in it for the money, according to a recently released study entitled ?Is Content Publishing In BitTorrent Altruistic or Profit-Driven?? (PDF download)

But how much money are we actually talking about? According to the study, plugging your web site via BitTorrent can get you around $200 per day on average.

Scientists from Madrid; Darmstadt, Germany; and Eugene, Oregon took a closer look at thousands of torrents on The Pirate Bay and Mininova in 2009 and 2010, and their analysis revealed that a small fraction of users is responsible for 67 percent of the content on these torrent sites.

So who are these folks? Thirty percent of all torrents analyzed for the study were spam associated with anti-piracy agencies and others who tried to get people to download unwanted content through simple bait-and-switch tactics. Another 30 percent of the torrents came from publishers that had financial motives. Some were promoting private torrent sites that finance themselves through ads or donations, and others were simply promoting web sites and services ? for example, by advertising porn subscriptions through adult movie torrents.

The scientists noticed some interesting patterns among these profit-driven publishers, noting, for example, that 40 percent of the people advertising private torrent sites publish content in languages other than English. But commercial torrents aren?t just limited to promoting porn and piracy: Researchers even ran into a church that used torrent piracy to promote its site.

There are still plenty of users who upload torrents just out of the goodness of their hearts, but uploaders with commercial incentives seem to be much more active, uploading a great number of, and much more popular, torrents. Fifty-two percent of uploaders of a random group sampling were altruistic, but this group was only responsible for 11.5 percent of the content uploaded.

The study points out that some publishers with commercial interests seem to make some good money with piracy: Top private torrent portals can generate as much as $3,700 per day by advertising their sites through torrents, and even a plain old porn site promoted through torrents can make $205 per day on average, the scientists estimated.

I know what you?re thinking: These estimates have to be taken with a grain of salt, if only for the fact that porn and torrent sites tend to generate much less income through advertising than other sites. Private torrent sites in particular aren?t usually money machines, but instead try to make ends meet in the face of significant hosting costs.

The conclusion drawn from these numbers is also debatable: That so much of the content comes from relatively few publishers with clear financial incentive could be piracy?s Achilles heel, the scientists argue: ?The removal of these financial-driven publishers (e.g. by antipiracy actions) may significantly affect the popularity of these portals as well as the whole BitTorrent ecosystem,? they write. That could be the case. Or maybe those top uploaders would simply be replaced on no time by others out to make a quick buck.

alias · 02-23-2011, 10:58 AM

Good way to get sued.

cooldude7 · 02-23-2011, 12:09 PM

and i was thinking to start a torrent site.,
dont blame me, i m just going with the flow baby.

DWB · 02-23-2011, 12:10 PM

Shit. They will never be able to do anything about people loading videos from SE Asia. I'm gonna start seeding Brazzers content day and night. In fact, I'm gonna hire 10 Thais to do it around the clock.

Someone please point me in the direction where I can make some money doing this. Thanks.

Agent 488 · 02-23-2011, 12:14 PM

how are people promoting their sites?

by just putting their link in the torrent description or ...?

PussyMaster · 02-23-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Shit. They will never be able to do anything about people loading videos from SE Asia. I'm gonna start seeding Brazzers content day and night. In fact, I'm gonna hire 10 Thais to do it around the clock.

Someone please point me in the direction where I can make some money doing this. Thanks.

i have done this before, not with torrents but with rapidshare sites via a message board and actually the juggs cash and AFF convert better than SE blogs traffic ( which AFF has 0:1000 and counting from handwritten blogs.I`m going to drop their links from them at 15k). It has no sense i know, but this is the truth.

Agent 488 · 02-24-2011, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PussyMaster

i have done this before, not with torrents but with rapidshare sites via a message board and actually the juggs cash and AFF convert better than SE blogs traffic ( which AFF has 0:1000 and counting from handwritten blogs.I`m going to drop their links from them at 15k). It has no sense i know, but this is the truth.

how did you promote it exactly? post scenes and a ref link?

plsureking · 02-24-2011, 01:58 PM

actually i've used torrents plenty of times. there was even a company around here about 3-4 years ago spamming about it. p2p something? i didnt buy their shit but i figured out how to do it myself.

when i need to promote an unknown website i will add some full length videos to my seedbox and then push them over to cheggit and several other torrent sites. the torrent whores will dl the video and want more. since its an unknown site they want more but there's no other torrents. a small percentage join.

its a decent marketing ploy..

DVTimes · 02-24-2011, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking

actually i've used torrents plenty of times. there was even a company around here about 3-4 years ago spamming about it. p2p something? i didnt buy their shit but i figured out how to do it myself.

when i need to promote an unknown website i will add some full length videos to my seedbox and then push them over to cheggit and several other torrent sites. the torrent whores will dl the video and want more. since its an unknown site they want more but there's no other torrents. a small percentage join.

its a decent marketing ploy..

Surly then, they will (those who join) download the sites content and give it away all free.

Do sponsors thank you for this?

plsureking · 02-24-2011, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes

Surly then, they will (those who join) download the sites content and give it away all free.

Do sponsors thank you for this?

obviously u dont know shit about torrents or the kind of resources required to seed a full website.

Dirty Dane · 02-24-2011, 03:06 PM

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and others were simply promoting web sites and services ? for example, by advertising porn subscriptions through adult movie torrents.

Doesnt take much science to discover who those few main sponsors are.

Agent 488 · 02-24-2011, 03:14 PM

a quick glance at some pron torrents on pirate bay. the majority created by a couple users who in turn are promoting their own porn torrent sites.

seeandsee · 02-24-2011, 04:12 PM

i will make torrent sites to download fake torrents

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DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,544	Pirate Economics 101: Who?s Making Money From Torrents? http://gigaom.com/video/pirate-econo...from-torrents/ Most of the content on major torrent sites comes from relatively few uploaders, and a significant portion of them are in it for the money, according to a recently released study entitled ?Is Content Publishing In BitTorrent Altruistic or Profit-Driven?? (PDF download) But how much money are we actually talking about? According to the study, plugging your web site via BitTorrent can get you around $200 per day on average. Scientists from Madrid; Darmstadt, Germany; and Eugene, Oregon took a closer look at thousands of torrents on The Pirate Bay and Mininova in 2009 and 2010, and their analysis revealed that a small fraction of users is responsible for 67 percent of the content on these torrent sites. So who are these folks? Thirty percent of all torrents analyzed for the study were spam associated with anti-piracy agencies and others who tried to get people to download unwanted content through simple bait-and-switch tactics. Another 30 percent of the torrents came from publishers that had financial motives. Some were promoting private torrent sites that finance themselves through ads or donations, and others were simply promoting web sites and services ? for example, by advertising porn subscriptions through adult movie torrents. The scientists noticed some interesting patterns among these profit-driven publishers, noting, for example, that 40 percent of the people advertising private torrent sites publish content in languages other than English. But commercial torrents aren?t just limited to promoting porn and piracy: Researchers even ran into a church that used torrent piracy to promote its site. There are still plenty of users who upload torrents just out of the goodness of their hearts, but uploaders with commercial incentives seem to be much more active, uploading a great number of, and much more popular, torrents. Fifty-two percent of uploaders of a random group sampling were altruistic, but this group was only responsible for 11.5 percent of the content uploaded. The study points out that some publishers with commercial interests seem to make some good money with piracy: Top private torrent portals can generate as much as $3,700 per day by advertising their sites through torrents, and even a plain old porn site promoted through torrents can make $205 per day on average, the scientists estimated. I know what you?re thinking: These estimates have to be taken with a grain of salt, if only for the fact that porn and torrent sites tend to generate much less income through advertising than other sites. Private torrent sites in particular aren?t usually money machines, but instead try to make ends meet in the face of significant hosting costs. The conclusion drawn from these numbers is also debatable: That so much of the content comes from relatively few publishers with clear financial incentive could be piracy?s Achilles heel, the scientists argue: ?The removal of these financial-driven publishers (e.g. by antipiracy actions) may significantly affect the popularity of these portals as well as the whole BitTorrent ecosystem,? they write. That could be the case. Or maybe those top uploaders would simply be replaced on no time by others out to make a quick buck. __________________ The Affiliate Program

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	a quick glance at some pron torrents on pirate bay. the majority created by a couple users who in turn are promoting their own porn torrent sites.