TwinCities

Simple, http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/15/why-is-there-no-looting-in-japan/?hpt=T1

TheDoc

I want to ask the question.... if they have thief's in Japan, which they do... then who's watching them to make sure they aren't looting?

Does this article assume, every disaster has looting? I don't recall people looting during Ike, during the Cali fires, during the floods that hit the East coast or the year after year that Fl gets nailed...

It's almost like... they suggest only the Japanese are this way.

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blackmonsters

Societal Revenge Motive :

Japan is a one race society that does not have a 400 year history of oppression
of minority races. Therefore there are no groups that have a "societal revenge motive".

The oppressed will say "society took from me, so I'll just take this
bicycle for revenge upon society".

End of story.

Be glad people loot for societal revenge instead of doing other things that are far worse.


Plus : What the fuck is there to loot when everything was washed away?
They are not going to loot the fucking rubble.

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dyna mo

their society also dictates saving face. the goal being making everything appear ok.

directfiesta

short memory span ....

Even 9/11 brought its share of looting, impersonnation and fraud...

The answer is simple : Japanese have self respect and morality ....

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blackmonsters

Yeah, that's why they don't have organized crime gangs, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakuza

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BV

Do you really not know the answer or are you trying to see who the racists are?

TheDoc

9/11 wasn't a natural disaster, memory is in check... and again, who's watching the criminals that already don't care about respect and morality?

It's not like Japan is free of crime, they have some of the worst Gangs and Mobs in the world, so that is excuse just isn't going to cut it.

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dyna mo

there was looting at ground zero- 9/11?

just did a quick search, there was a small story about firefighters looting a bit but they were exonerated.

RaiderCash_Dominik

We all know why, just dont want to say it outloud.

blackmonsters

WOW! LooK at all this cool shit to loot!

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TheDoc

Why didn't looting in Mississippi and Alabama and Texas happen? Answer those questions and you'll put your racism to rest for a brief moment.

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Phoenix

to blackmonsters....the japanese took the role of oppressors in the past.
there are probably a shit ton of chinese and korean people who are on the inside...saying good...i hope you all fucking die.

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directfiesta

There was a wo9man that claimed to have escaped ... was recfeived bu RUDY GILLIANI ... ran a group of survivors ... only thing is that she was in Germany or Spain on 9/11 ... Am not in my country now, so no access to the video clip .... if needed, will be bavck early april ...

Point is that Japanese have acode , moral , honnor , etc ...

I would not be surprised if some of the japanese executives of the power plant suicide them selves ..

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blackmonsters

How much is a shit load?

It's not like 30 million Koreans live in Japan, as 30 million blacks live in America.
Take 30 million people and you might just find 5000 looters.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreans_in_Japan

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Phoenix

agreed...in any race you could find looters

who knows why people steal things they want...versus what they need?

keeping race out of it, id blame it on television and lower standards of education being pushed out to people everywhere.

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will76

I've heard a lot of people saying this, most of them say it with a negative tone as to make a dig at the US (and several other countries) who have looted after natural disasters.

I don't understand what point those people are trying to make. Are the Japanese better people because they are not looting? Why haven't they been looting??? Apparently they are different then other societies. Why was Japan one of the only countries, if not the only one to have kamikaze pilots ??? Why isn't everyone pointing a finger at another country and saying " haha! why don't your pilots fly and crash to their deaths when they run out of bullets? "

Different societies act different ways.

Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with looting. I bet 99% of you would. I don't care which country you from. If you are going several days without food or water and there is some inside of a store and no one is coming to provide you with aid, wouldn't you too?

Let's give them a few more days to see if they are truly different then the rest of the world. If the support doesn't get there will the Japanese people die before kicking in a door and taking some water or food??? '

Is that really the better thing to do, die before "taking" something else that is just sitting there that can save your life... or is that the stupid thing to do?

TheDoc

I heard the best reason yet.... they are a team and family based society. Everything about them is about helping each other, from kids taking care of older parents, from the Gov down to the people (that's bad here), to the Ceo's to the people (damn sure never happen here), to everyone (which does happen) - they are one family (which is not American anymore)

Here.. some red neck puts up a sign that says looters will be shot, rather than working to help bring everyone together or those brought together, well don't include some others.

End of the day, part of society is left with a choice to make... thinking color makes that choice, makes you pathetic.

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will76

you are an idiot. That "redneck" putting up a sign very likely has a house full of his family members and very limited supplies. What do you expect the redneck to do put up a sign " come take what you want". It's fact of life here almost everywhere. people loot. When the survival mode kicks in they care more about living then they care about "bringing shame" to their family. They do what they need to do first and foremost to make sure them and their families are taken care of. They could give a shit what other people think.

"According to Ruth Benedict's shame culture/guilt culture analysis, an important factor keeping crime low is the traditional emphasis on the individual as a member of groups to which he or she must not bring shame. Within these groups?family, friends, and associates at work or school?a Japanese citizen has social rights and obligations, may derive emotional support, and meets powerful expectations to conform. These informal social sanctions display potency despite competing values in a changing society."

I wish more people on this forum acted like Japanese people, because a lot of your fucking retarded ass morons do nothing but bring shame to this industry.

will76

Everyone make sure to give the Japanese who die from dehydration a gold star and pat on the back for being such honorable people. To their death they didn't want to bring shame on their family.

I guess I would have to live in shame because I didn't want to die and went into a store and took some food and water after starving for days. Especially after the govt doesn't help bring in aid and everything you owned washed away.

blackmonsters

You should also consider that the looting from Katrina did not start the first
day. There was a period of suffering before the looting started.

Also, most of the police force abandoned the city as well as all the business
owners. So you had people looking for food/etc comming across closed businesses
where they could not even buy with money and no cops around either and no
end in sight of the situation returning to normal.
Some cops allowed and organized looting during Katrina as a humanitarian process. Bush sat on his ass for a week. Don't forget the facts!

All of our army reserves and national guard that normally responds to these problems
were in Iraq and Afghanistan at the time. Don't forget that.

Big difference in Japan as authorities are on the scene and businesses are actually
destroyed so they can't be looted anyway.

Just like looting in Iraq occured when law enforcement vanished.

During the LA riots, citizens rejected law and order as the riot was against the
police in concept.

People need to get off this dumb shit of trying to make everything about race.

The preist who rape boys aren't doing it because they are white, they are doing it
because they can get away with it and the preisthood has accepted almost
no blacks or other minorities. As soon as they accept more minorities then we
will see those faces in these mug shots too:

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/0...-sexual-abuse/

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blackmonsters

Great point because in America that's when business owners often price gouge!

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RS22236.pdf

In a dog eat dog atmosphere like that, business owners who get looted are
reaping what they have sown.

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TheDoc

If a community helps itself it does not loot or even cause crime. In other Countries where they put criminals of all types directly into calm communities that help each other, it teaches the person how to act and they change to be more community/family/people driven, and care.

So yes, it IS red necks that put those signs up.. why didn't they bring the entire neighborhood together? Count supplies, make sure everyone had shelter that needed it.. ? oh and water which so many didn't have but so many others had....

And I really don't care what Ruth says about them, they still have criminals that murder, rape, steal, ect every day - so clearly she missed judged a few of them.


Yes, bringing shame to the Industry is of any importance over bringing shame to fellow Americans that others 'are' to racist to help.

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Deputy Chief Command

no looting ? then what are these honest japanese doing ?

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Deputy Chief Command

am pretty sure they plan on paying 7/11 back later ;; oh there goes the honourable japanese myth

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DaddyHalbucks

Why isn't the TRILLIONS of dollars of welfare payments sufficient "compensation?"

What is the expiration date for this "societal revenge motive?"

Does it ever expire?

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DaddyHalbucks

If your local supermarket was wiped out, and you were starving, you might do the same thing.

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Deputy Chief Command

of course I will! you have to be stupid not too .. only am trying to make a point that Japanese are just like the rest of us ... unlike what some people want to believe because the Japanes are so honourable

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will76

Actually you are right and wrong. Unlike an earth quake that happens and then it's over with. There was bad weather for an entire day from Katrina, people were stuck in attics or roof tops till the weather cleared up and then most either went to higher ground like overpasses, interstates or places that did not flood like the convention center. Everything in their house was gone, they had no supplies and the places they went to had no supplies. So they went an entire 24 hours with nothing while they were stuck in the bad weather. As soon as the weather cleared up it was about 95-100 degree heat they were stuck in. You only need to go a couple days with no water and some people (especially the old, poor health, etc. can die). Once the weather cleared up the looting was in full force because people were suffering right away. They also had to get to it before it was gone. I don't blame them on bit.

It was only a select few that looted for shit like electronics but naturally that was on TV 24/7. People forget, they already had reporters down here before the hurricane, so after it passed they were the first ones out filming. None of you have a clue what happened in Japan the first 24 hours or even couple days. In some sections its probably so bad relief workers aren't even in there yet much less reporters. how do you know there isn't looting going on there. For this tragic event in Japan, rule of thumb, if the reporters made it in after the fact, I would hope the supply trucks did too. Of course no one takes that into consideration.


did you think, possibly, for 1 minute that maybe that red neck only has enough supplies for his family to live off of for a couple days. You would expect someone to give away most of what they have so their supply would go down from a couple days to a couple hours??? fuck that. You obviously never been through a major natural disaster where you are on your own and what you have is all that you may have to live off of for days and even weeks. I am sure if you only had 4 gallons of water you would give away 3 to the community and leave one for you and your family to live on for who know how long.... sure you would. You would be the first one to put a sign up.

oh noooes, but the japanese people don't loot. Surely the people in this picture will go home and fall on their sword and kill themselves because this picture will bring so much shame to their family.

First of all you people act like "looting" is bad. Yeah, the dumb idiots who take shit like flat screen tvs in the middle of a flood. Not only are those people few and far between, but don't they speak volumes about their own intelligence? Instead of going for the food and water they went for the TV??? Natural selection, thankfully those retarded people will likely die of starvation and dehydration.

Now the "looting" that 95% of the people do, which is for supplies you need to live on like food, water, clothing, matches, etc... What is wrong with taking something if you need it, when you are in dire straights and on your own? Is it better to have 100s of people die and a store stay full of supplies or have those 100 people live? Not to mention some of the food will go bad and spoil anyway if it is left there.

Bladewire

Video proof of looting in Japan

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Every time I hear about this "no looting in Japan" thing, it seems to be implying some kind of anti-American sentiment.

The japanese are mostly honorable, dignified people, but give them a week without food and water and they'll be some looting motherfuckers.

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will76

As we can see above they are looters too. And you right, it is definitely a dig at the US every time someone says it. With Katrina being the big bulls eye they all point to. Just proves how fucking stupid people are and they don't know how to use their brains. Katrina was a major hurricane that was forecasted to hit New Orleans 3 days prior. Every news agency in the country (and some from around the world) flew in reporters. There was literally thousands of reporters in town. Even before the bad weather stopped they were out filming. So every bit of looting that happened it was caught on film.

VS....

An earth quake and tsunami that hits with no warning and makes it impossible for relief workers to get to for several hours and in some places days. The reporters weren't already there to film. We don't know what happened. By the time the good old media makes there way into a devastated area it was because the roads were cleared and the trucks with food and water went in. Would you really expect to see much looting AFTER the gov aid made it's way in????

Or are they talking about that there was no looting where the thousands of people were relocated to? News flash, the people who were bused out of New Orleans to other cities, they didn't loot then either. Once you saved and removed from the situation, no one loots.

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TheDoc

Did you stop to think for a minute that only an idiot would sit around with limited supplies, limited resources, knowing they're going to run out?

Large numbers of people, neighborhoods, multiple families did and normally do gather together when this happens. The problems start to happen with people cut others off that need supplies, exclude them the communities or force them into areas with no supplies or even less resources.

If they have a community to fall back on, they're resources/knowledge and abilities could provide to the community while getting what they need.

I wouldn't need a sign, I know trying to survive on your own with limited sources and a family, is going to be next to impossible. Either I'll go to the community centers setup by the red cross, and start helping and get get my family what they need, or I can easily become the leader in my area and do the exact same thing with local resources, which is basically how everything has functioned for thousands of years.

Maybe you need to get out more, the Internet makes people social moles and reading so much twisted crap online makes us all think the world is full of evil, but the reality is... during times of devastation, people are even more open to joining together than ever, they just need a leader.

You wouldn't stand up and help lead your fellow Americans to a better tomorrow? I would without thinking twice.

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lazycash

These threads always get posted too soon. Reports of looting are starting to trickle in now. Just like last month someone posted the same thread regarding why Egyptions weren't looting after all the destruction from the riots. Sure enough, the next day there were reports of looting everywhere. Desperation combined with opportunity will always be too much for some to resist no matter the culture.

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