will you go for .xxx domains ?

[cooldude7]

as .xxx domains are coming in , will u go for it or no.

[cooldude7]

nope , i wont go for .xxx bullshit.

[DWB]

Here comes the business decision.

Is it cheaper to buy .XXX domains to protect your brand/trademark, or to sue people who infringe on your trademark?

I have no plans to buy any, but if I did it would only be to protect my top money making sites. It wouldn't be a free for all like I've done with .com. Though, nothing is set in stone. Just trying to look at it from a business point of view.

[iamtam]

not likely. $60 wholesale means near $100 retail. that is 10 to 1 or worse against .com domains. not a very wise investment decision.

[cooldude7]

Originally Posted by cooldude7

nope , i wont go for .xxx bullshit.

from search engine point of view , i guess .xxx will be restricted in safe search.

so i guess there wont be any loss in traffic.as already all .com adult domains are restrictied in safe search.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by iamtam

not likely. $60 wholesale means near $100 retail. that is 10 to 1 or worse against .com domains. not a very wise investment decision.

And if the government makes them mandatory? How good of a business decision was it then???

Dont think for one min that it wont happen.

As I recall .xxx would not happen either.

[just a punk]

No, it makes "illegal" .com zone more attractive.

[nikki99]

votedddddddd

[Lonny]

voted "No, I wont go for".

[selena]

Originally Posted by pornguy

And if the government makes them mandatory? How good of a business decision was it then???

Dont think for one min that it wont happen.

As I recall .xxx would not happen either.

Fear mongering is what Lawley is banking on. That same thought process is what has helped kill the industry.

"Let's show a few pics, with no hardcore, and make a sale"

"Oh, I can't do that, the other guy will show hardcore and steal the sale. So I'll show 20, and full fucking."

"You should protect your content and lock down your members area."

"Oh, I can't do that! My members won't like it and will go someplace else. So hell, I won't just let them download, I'll zip it all up, and make it easy for them!"

"Stuart Lawley is a crook, and I am going to say fuck .xxx"

"Oh, someone might buy the .xxx version of my domain, or the government might mandate it, so I am going to pay his extortion and contribute just a little bit more to the death of my income".

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by selena

Fear mongering is what Lawley is banking on. That same thought process is what has helped kill the industry.

"Let's show a few pics, with no hardcore, and make a sale"

"Oh, I can't do that, the other guy will show hardcore and steal the sale. So I'll show 20, and full fucking."

"You should protect your content and lock down your members area."

"Oh, I can't do that! My members won't like it and will go someplace else. So hell, I won't just let them download, I'll zip it all up, and make it easy for them!"

"Stuart Lawley is a crook, and I am going to say fuck .xxx"

"Oh, someone might buy the .xxx version of my domain, or the government might mandate it, so I am going to pay his extortion and contribute just a little bit more to the death of my income".

[vdbucks]

At some point in the very near future, we won't have a choice. And by then it could be too late as some "domainer" has probably already registered your brands name.

This industry just got a whole lot harder for us small guys............

[kane]

Originally Posted by pornguy

And if the government makes them mandatory? How good of a business decision was it then???

Dont think for one min that it wont happen.

As I recall .xxx would not happen either.

There is a lot more to making .xxx mandatory than just a couple of people on an board deciding it.

In the US it would have be proposed as a bill and make its way through the house and senate the signed by the president. While it would be easy to say that could happen in a heartbeat we have to remember that many conservative groups were very much against the .xxx because they feel it legitimizes the adult industry. They don't want us to have our own TLD and be legit, they want us put out of business. So chances are they aren't going to be in a hurry to tell us we can do business as usual so long as we stay on a .xxx.

But assume that it does make it through and gets signed into law, it would be immediately challenged and end up in court. A few years back during the COPA days the supreme court ruled against a law that would require sites to verify age because they said that there were adequate filter options out there for those who wanted to block adult content from their homes. Those filtering options have only gotten better in the last few years and now there are even plenty of free options. I can't see the supreme court then deciding that those filters are now not good enough and that all adult sites must now be a .xxx especially when you realize that only about half of the adult sites out there are owned/operated by people in the US so webmasters outside the country will not care nor bother with it.

This is just a money grab that after years of work and millions of dollars spent has actually worked.

Anything could happen. I never say never. But the odds of this ending up as a mandatory use item are very, very low and most likely years away.

[Cyber Fucker]

As long as it isn't mandatory I don't give a sh*t about it.

[signupdamnit]

Definitely not unless it is the same price as other regular domains. It's bullshit that apparently the current charges are $75 when the average domain cost is around $10. Why should I pay more? Plus you know many governments will try to target it for further tax increases and regulation later on.

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by vdbucks

At some point in the very near future, we won't have a choice. And by then it could be too late as some "domainer" has probably already registered your brands name.

This industry just got a whole lot harder for us small guys............

Why do you think a lot of the big guys weren't protesting very hard? They want you out and they want your domains too.

[nikki99]

problem is this poll means shit as most guys that doesn´t post on GFY will buy the xxx domains

[u-Bob]

1. I won't buy any.
2. Add safesurf metatags (or similar tags that identify your sites as adult) to your sites/pages. That way parents that want to block access to adult content for their children can block it using netnanny type programs (those programs read those metatags).
The important thing now is to make it clear that there is no need to make .xxx mandatory in an attempt to make filtering easier for parents: (1) Parents who want to block access to adult content can already do so. (2) The adult industry voluntarily makes it easier for parents to block their sites by including extra identifiers such as icra or safesurf tags.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by Cyber Fucker

As long as it isn't mandatory I don't give a sh*t about it.

Let's hope so ...

.

[CYF]

I won't be buying any.

[will76]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Here comes the business decision.

Is it cheaper to buy .XXX domains to protect your brand/trademark, or to sue people who infringe on your trademark?

I have no plans to buy any, but if I did it would only be to protect my top money making sites. It wouldn't be a free for all like I've done with .com. Though, nothing is set in stone. Just trying to look at it from a business point of view.

How many domains do most people have trademarked? less than .005% ? Unless you are a big program with unique names/brands most people do not have their domains trademarked.

Any domain worth "protecting" that .xxx equivalent is probably already reserved. What's the chances of you getting it even if you wanted it. All of those people who buy and sell (hoard) domains and try to sell them for ridiculous prices would have gotten in on this and reserved the domains years ago.

Has ICM mentioned if they are going to be auctioning off better names? Names like FreeSex etc. that are generic, not trademarked, I highly highly doubt they going to let someone register that for regular registration cost, just to have that person turn around and flip up for a lot more money.

The fact of the matter is, in the majority of the cases you wont be able to register a .xxx domain even if you wanted to, unless if the domain was very shitty or had a trademark.

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by will76

Any domain worth "protecting" that .xxx equivalent is probably already reserved. What's the chances of you getting it even if you wanted it. All of those people who buy and sell (hoard) domains and try to sell them for ridiculous prices would have gotten in on this and reserved the domains years ago.

so what? just let them sit on their overpriced domains... Just because a domain ends in .xxx doesn't mean it will suddenly start getting SE traffic or massive amounts of typeins.... looks at .mobi, .co, .name,...

the important thing now is not to keep going on about domainers outside the adult industry. The important thing is preventing legislation that would make the use of a .xxx domain mandatory.

[Domain Diva]

Originally Posted by will76

Has ICM mentioned if they are going to be auctioning off better names? Names like FreeSex etc. that are generic, not trademarked, I highly highly doubt they going to let someone register that for regular registration cost, just to have that person turn around and flip up for a lot more money.

They did mention that they might hold on to generic names such as porn.xxx etc and point them to a directory and then list the .xxx domains registered.

I guess this would be to tempt buyers with the promise of a free listing /traffic.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by nikki99

problem is this poll means shit as most guys that doesn´t post on GFY will buy the xxx domains

i would have worded it a little differently but that's what i was going to say too

there's only one way now to deal with it: ignore

if Lawley gets no money it will die

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by pornguy

And if the government makes them mandatory? How good of a business decision was it then???

Dont think for one min that it wont happen.

As I recall .xxx would not happen either.

all that would mean is US webmasters/hosts/registrars are fucked. government can't block all porn on .com's that they have no jurisdiction in.

don't forget that ICANN is allowing .anything now. in a few years you'll see .sex .boobs .gay .thisshitisworthless...

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by will76

How many domains do most people have trademarked? less than .005% ? Unless you are a big program with unique names/brands most people do not have their domains trademarked.

Any domain worth "protecting" that .xxx equivalent is probably already reserved. What's the chances of you getting it even if you wanted it. All of those people who buy and sell (hoard) domains and try to sell them for ridiculous prices would have gotten in on this and reserved the domains years ago.

Has ICM mentioned if they are going to be auctioning off better names? Names like FreeSex etc. that are generic, not trademarked, I highly highly doubt they going to let someone register that for regular registration cost, just to have that person turn around and flip up for a lot more money.

The fact of the matter is, in the majority of the cases you wont be able to register a .xxx domain even if you wanted to, unless if the domain was very shitty or had a trademark.

from what i've read all you have to do is own the .com and you get first swing at the .xxx. not sure if they will charge reg fee or what though.

i won't be buying any. they are too expensive just for a 'what if' senario. if i owned a million dollar .com domain, i would probably get the .xxx (as long what i read was correct, that the .com owners get the .xxx without any auction) but the domains i own just aren't worth it. while im not worried about xxx this just gives more reason to get out of this shitty constantly raped industry and i'm glad i invested the majority of my money into mainstream domains and not adult.

[cherrylula]

Why are they going to be so expensive? Fuck the assholes behind this. I will refuse to buy any if they make them more than ordinary domains.

[ruff]

.com is king. always will be. xxx is just another cc, co, mobi, bullshit. Anything anyone can do with your com domain they could have done with any other extention. xxx is just a money grab. The gov is not going to go near it or legitimize it at all. It's just going to hang out there and get filled up with malware pages and drive bys. Of course, this is just my opinion. I sure won't be using it.

[LAJ]

I will not spend a penny on a .xxx domain.

[Si]

Boycott .XXX

[DBS.US]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

from what i've read all you have to do is own the .com and you get first swing at the .xxx. not sure if they will charge reg fee or what though.

.

Funny how they try to sell something and make it look there are doing you a favor taking your money.

[Denny]

I'll stay clear of this .xxx bullshit

[Denny]

Originally Posted by ruff

.com is king. always will be. xxx is just another cc, co, mobi, bullshit.

[will76]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

so what? just let them sit on their overpriced domains... Just because a domain ends in .xxx doesn't mean it will suddenly start getting SE traffic or massive amounts of typeins.... looks at .mobi, .co, .name,...

the important thing now is not to keep going on about domainers outside the adult industry. The important thing is preventing legislation that would make the use of a .xxx domain mandatory.

" so what? " ??? my comments were to the OP and poll, will you buy .xxx domains, and everyone saying hell no not me. None of those people could go register a decent .xxx domain now anyways.

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

from what i've read all you have to do is own the .com and you get first swing at the .xxx. not sure if they will charge reg fee or what though.

No way its going to happen like that. I doubt the 200K+ or whatever domains registrations they claim to have are all people with the .com trying to get the .xxx equivalent. I also see no way in hell the guy who owns "cams", "webcams" "free" "sex" etc will be offered the .xxx at normal registration cost (unless they did a shaddy deal with them for support). We will see how it plays out, but ICM could auction those domains off for 1000x more the registration fees and they are too greedy to pass up an opportunity like that.