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Old 04-28-2011, 07:37 AM   #1
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:stoned TRUE CONFESSIONS of porn content shooters

attention content shooters !!

Having never ventured into the area of content shooting there are a few burning questions i have always wondered about.

Perhaps some content shooters could offer up some opinions/answers, and perhaps others have some questions as well.

Do you make participants shower before a shoot ?

Are there really dedicated fluffers onsite ?

Who cleans up all the spooge ?

What do you do with the spooged furniture ?

Do the participants ever need to stop and take a shit ? is it akward to re-start after that ? any protocol ?

Do you use those little scene boxes like in real movies ?

i have more but theres a few off the top of my head for now
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Old 04-28-2011, 07:43 AM   #2
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Do you make participants shower before a shoot ? Yes

Are there really dedicated fluffers onsite ? On big productions no doubt

Who cleans up all the spooge ? I make em swallow

What do you do with the spooged furniture ? See above

Do the participants ever need to stop and take a shit ? is it akward to re-start after that ? any protocol ? Has not happened in 40+ years

Do you use those little scene boxes like in real movies ? Do you mean clapper boards? If so no
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Old 04-28-2011, 07:49 AM   #3
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Who cleans up all the spooge ? I make em swallow

What do you do with the spooged furniture ? See above
No really what you do with furniture?
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salvation army?
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Those doesn't sound like confessions to me ...
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Do you make participants shower before a shoot ?


***try not to hire street bums

Are there really dedicated fluffers onsite ?


** how much money do you have?

Who cleans up all the spooge ?

** how much money do you have?

What do you do with the spooged furniture ?

** how much money do you have?

Do you use those little scene boxes like in real movies ?

** how much money do you have?
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Lots and lots of couch and chair covers, which are washable and/or replaceable.
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They probably go on craigslist... some poor schmuck has no idea what the furniture was used for before...
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Do you make participants shower before a shoot ? Always and usually get the girls to douche. Both holes if they're doing anal.

Are there really dedicated fluffers onsite ? Never see them on any shoot but one of those 50 guys gang bangs using amateur guys.

Who cleans up all the spooge ? Off the girl she does it herself. Off the floor and furniture I do. Always take a mop and cleaning equipment, with us on location.

What do you do with the spooged furniture ? See above.

Do the participants ever need to stop and take a shit ? is it akward to re-start after that ? any protocol ? Happened a few times, piss or crap. Break and get back on with it.

Do you use those little scene boxes like in real movies ? Sometimes. If you mean a story board. Often have a script and discuss it with the models before the shoot. Shooting the set first makes the sequence of the scene fall into line for the actor/actors.
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Never had Jizz on the furniture. I guess my male talent can AIM straight ?
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Do you make participants shower before a shoot ? No but they do sometimes

Are there really dedicated fluffers onsite ? Teh Pron myth

Who cleans up all the spooge ? Girls

What do you do with the spooged furniture ? Housekeeping

Do the participants ever need to stop and take a shit ? is it akward to re-start after that ? any protocol ? Girls always seem to have this taken care of

Do you use those little scene boxes like in real movies ? Always, and a megaphone, and use a german accent or at least say "UND!" alot. And yell "R-R-ROLLINK!" and have a chair on set with "Werner Herzog Leroy" on it. And checkered pants.
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attention content shooters !!

Having never ventured into the area of content shooting there are a few burning questions i have always wondered about.

Perhaps some content shooters could offer up some opinions/answers, and perhaps others have some questions as well.

Do you make participants shower before a shoot ? No, they come prepared.

Are there really dedicated fluffers onsite ? No

Who cleans up all the spooge ? Unfortunately me.

What do you do with the spooged furniture ? Clean it and eventually get more

Do the participants ever need to stop and take a shit ? is it akward to re-start after that ? any protocol ? Nope

Do you use those little scene boxes like in real movies ? Nope

i have more but theres a few off the top of my head for now
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thanks guys , and yes paul i did mean storyboard..

as far as the showering , is it up to them to be honest or do you have an assistant or madam to guide the girls.

and about the wayward jizzshots, if the girl doesn't clean it and the guy doesn't clean it , who cleans it ? like if theres a big splooge hanging off a lampshade , whats the protocol ? does everyone just pretend it's not there and it gets cleaned up after the shoot by someone's wife/cleaning lady etc ? is there a low man on the porn shoot totem pole ? makeup ? cameraguy ? lighting ?
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p.s. often the questions/answers are different depending on the type of porn you are shooting , so not looking for "correct" answers , just things i have always wondered

Whats the backout/flakeout percentage roughly ? male vs female talent ?

How man time do you have to stop/start a scene because there is something wrong ( angle/attitude/position )

do you try and run a scene start to finish or do you stage it scene by scene ?

Do many women bring managers/pimps/helpers ?
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Who cleans up all the spooge ? Off the floor and furniture I do.


Always good to see a business owner getting his hands dirty
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Do you make participants shower before a shoot ?

I generally send out a list of my expectations to each performer prior to the shoot, which covers wardrobe, hygiene, and rules (no drugs/alcohol). Included, is to shower and brush ones teeth.

Many professionals arrive with their own toothbrush and toothpaste.

I've never had a hygiene issue when working with experienced pros, although I have had to have a few amateurs hit the showers.

Even though already clean when they arrive, some people take another shower and bond a little on set before their scene.

Finally, I keep several douche kits on-hand just in case (Summer's Eve is a good brand).

Are there really dedicated fluffers onsite ?

I have never seen a fluffer on a set - mine or anyone else's. The female talent in the scene generally handle this task when needed. I recall one time when a female performer refused to help a new guy get hard, insisting that it was his job, not hers (even though the scene called for lots of oral sex once things were rolling). The poor guys ego was bruised, but we finally worked out the situation, and produced a happy ending.

Who cleans up all the spooge ?

These days I have the luxury of hiring Production Assistants that take care of any spills or messes. Back in the early days, it was left to either the male talent, or more often myself.

What do you do with the spooged furniture ?

Plan beforehand...if I am using someone else's location, I try to take extra care when planning scenes that may be messy (lots of lube, etc), and have a plan for the pop scene. Generally I tell the performers where and in what position I want them to finish in. We then plan for the clean-up.

There is inevitably a box or two of handi-wipes on set for any spot clean-ups as we are shooting, and then a spray antiseptic cleaner for the final clean-up. It is not unusual for me to purchase or bring my own linen. All bedding, towels, etc. are washed after each studio shoot.


Do the participants ever need to stop and take a shit ? is it akward to re-start after that ? any protocol ?

I have never had anyone halt a scene to take a dump. There have been pee breaks on long shoots in the past. I will call for a 10-minute break when this is necessary, to give everyone a chance to relax, and then we can re-focus all together when we start shooting again.

A more common issue is if the guy can't get wood or pop. I have a host of tricks for dealing with this issue, since it can impact the entire project. Always have a plan.


Do you use those little scene boxes like in real movies ?

I wasn't sure what you meant at first, but I use both clappers and storyboards. The clapper helps to sync the sound and action, as well as providing useful shoot info (I list the date, performers, scene, and any special notes about lighting, etc.). A clapper is especially helpful if you are using multiple cameras, as I frequently do.

I don't draw up storyboards, however I write detailed script scenarios, which I have a PA follow as the scene progresses to make sure nothing is left out.
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Whats the backout/flakeout percentage roughly ? male vs female talent ?

My experience has been mostly good in this regard. The males are almost always on time, while women can run late, so I pad my schedules a little, plus I often book multiple projects on shooting days to maximize my efficiency and keep my staff overhead low (I pay my crew a flat day rate, instead of hourly).

Most of the Asian women whom I have hired have been professional and easy to work with. My no-show percentage is quite low - less than 1-2%.

How man time do you have to stop/start a scene because there is something wrong ( angle/attitude/position )?

It depends on the scene. We generally try to do enough planning in pre-production to avoid having to stop during the scene. On elaborate projects, we will spend a day in advance of the shoot, marking blocks (spots where performers are to position themselves for specific shots), and getting the lights set how we want them for every camera angle.

Despite all of the careful prep and planning, you have to master camera improv - and in any case some of the most interesting shots occur spontaneously, which is why I almost always have one handheld camera floating around.


do you try and run a scene start to finish or do you stage it scene by scene ?

It depends on the scene. The easiest thing is to try and shoot straight through. There is less likelihood of continuity breaks or light shifts (especially when including natural light).

If I have the luxury of time, I like to try and mix things up with cool angles or camera techniques, as long as they don't detract from the action.


Do many women bring managers/pimps/helpers ?

I always invite women to bring one person with them if they wish to. About half do (mostly to get a ride). Obviously, I already have a set of protocol for how to deal with guests on set, so this has rarely presented a problem.
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I will never forget working at a live porn studio and having to restock the supplies. We'd go to Target and buy like 30+ douches and enemas, paper towels, baby wipes and it was so embarrassing.

and what's with trannies using douche on their assholes, it's like they can't accept the fact that it is a poop chute and use an actual enema.

fun (?) good times (uuhh).... but I don't miss those days... lol
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I'll add... the worst situation I remember having to deal with, was during a granny gang bang some guy thought it was a good idea to put one of those hard plastic garbage bag things around his cock and balls like a cockring.... lol the guy was completely freaking and panicking because he could not get it off and practically chasing me down the hallway begging for scissors.... couldn't find them fast enough and I sure as hell wasn't going to hands on help this dumbass... oh lawdy.

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thanks guys , and yes paul i did mean storyboard..

as far as the showering , is it up to them to be honest or do you have an assistant or madam to guide the girls.
When I'm paying the wages nothing is up to the workers. They do it or they go home with no money. I can tell a girl how to shower and douche, like what's the problem?

In 30 minutes I'm going to be telling her to do far more intimate things to herself.

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Never had it go so far.

Whats the backout/flakeout percentage roughly ? male vs female talent ? I only use professional boys and they rarely flake. Sometimes a girl does and she walks.

How man time do you have to stop/start a scene because there is something wrong ( angle/attitude/position ) Attitude twice after that I turn off the lights. Angle position as many times as it takes.

do you try and run a scene start to finish or do you stage it scene by scene ? Depends what I'm shooting.

Do many women bring managers/pimps/helpers ? They bring them and they wait outside the building, or the girl goes home.

My attitude and approach towards models has been formed over decades. And basically by the fact that nothing we shot was sold until it was published. If it wasn't good enough we lost money. So if a model wasn't good enough for any reason she/he went home.

Also I'm the employer the model is an employee. I didn't ask my secretary if she would like to type a letter for me like it was a request, it wasn't. It was a polite way of telling her.

Reggie will back me up with how I work with models and whether the one we worked with last weekend had fun or not. For instance when I went through the script with Sandra and told her what I wanted. I wasn't asking her if she would do it.

My approach has worked. Firm but nice about it. Shooting porn is a people skill.
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Do you make participants shower before a shoot ? YES

Are there really dedicated fluffers onsite ? NO

Who cleans up all the spooge ? The Model and male talent

What do you do with the spooged furniture ? We buy furniture specifically for shoots

Do the participants ever need to stop and take a shit ? is it awkward to re-start after that ? any protocol ?
LOL In some anal scenes some girls feel that way



Do you use those little scene boxes like in real movies ? NO

i have more but there's a few off the top of my head for now
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Since the thread is about Porn Shoots, may be it is a good opportunity to ask some questions that I always wanted to ask but did not know who to.
1. I have seen many scenes in which good looking girls, not too old or MILFs, amateurs (not seasoned sluts or porn actresses) get pounded very hard in all holes by huge cocks. They have never ever even seen such big cocks, dont appear to be street women and yet are able to take massive pounding and are obviously extremely uncomfortable with the situation. Yet they dont walk away.
Why do these women go through the torture whereas in real life women are very bossy and even prostitutes have very strict limits of what is allowed and what is not.
2. How much a good looking no-name girl gets paid for a solid hardcore scene including anal, dp, a2m etc. in a big city location like LA or Miami? Whats the ball park figure...like $500/day, $1000/day or more?
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Since the thread is about Porn Shoots, may be it is a good opportunity to ask some questions that I always wanted to ask but did not know who to.
1. I have seen many scenes in which good looking girls, not too old or MILFs, amateurs (not seasoned sluts or porn actresses) get pounded very hard in all holes by huge cocks. They have never ever even seen such big cocks, dont appear to be street women and yet are able to take massive pounding and are obviously extremely uncomfortable with the situation. Yet they dont walk away.
Why do these women go through the torture whereas in real life women are very bossy and even prostitutes have very strict limits of what is allowed and what is not.
it's all about the money
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yeah but how much. Many sex workers charge close to $300 per hour so how much these hard pounded girls make per scene which streches their pussy to the max
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Since the thread is about Porn Shoots, may be it is a good opportunity to ask some questions that I always wanted to ask but did not know who to.
1. I have seen many scenes in which good looking girls, not too old or MILFs, amateurs (not seasoned sluts or porn actresses) get pounded very hard in all holes by huge cocks. They have never ever even seen such big cocks, dont appear to be street women and yet are able to take massive pounding and are obviously extremely uncomfortable with the situation. Yet they dont walk away.
Why do these women go through the torture whereas in real life women are very bossy and even prostitutes have very strict limits of what is allowed and what is not.
2. How much a good looking no-name girl gets paid for a solid hardcore scene including anal, dp, a2m etc. in a big city location like LA or Miami? Whats the ball park figure...like $500/day, $1000/day or more?
They love MONEY and remember, babies come through that pussy. A dick is not going to do much worse in most cases.
There are some small girls out there that can not take this abuse from over-sized cocks or fisting, but they get paid very wll to do so.
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yeah but how much. Many sex workers charge close to $300 per hour so how much these hard pounded girls make per scene which streches their pussy to the max
It depends where you shoot, who you shoot and how you found the girls.

LA girls with a name that's known via agents are the most expensive, Russian girls just off the streets are the cheapest. Which is why so many shoot in Russia.
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thanks guys , and yes paul i did mean storyboard..
I'd fucking love to see a porn story board.

Scan one of yours in Paul. Or anyone else that uses one.
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damn why would you even ask that? of course every actor involved takes shower

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not for us

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you can make a model clean it ("hey it's your fault!" ) or wait while it dries up and then just brush it.

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What do you do with the spooged furniture ?
either dont shoot on locations that can be spooged or be very accurate... don't remember some seriously spooged furniture or stuff

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all shits go before the scene. if that's an anal scene, girl cleans up her ass/rectum/whatever , so no shits after that. Well, shits happen anyways so everyone on location has to wait while he/she makes the dirty business, then goes to shower again, and thanks god if a girl does'nt ruines her makeup meanwhile.

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Do you use those little scene boxes like in real movies ?
no
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Whats the backout/flakeout percentage roughly ? male vs female talent ?
it's like 1-2 girls out of 20

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How man time do you have to stop/start a scene because there is something wrong ( angle/attitude/position )
Depends on the scene being shot. But it's a rare thing when scene is shot with only few stops.

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do you try and run a scene start to finish or do you stage it scene by scene ?
you have to stop camera to give directions, change angles, so it's more like scene by scene.

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Do many women bring managers/pimps/helpers ?
they dont. no strangers / wanderers on the shooting location.
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I'd fucking love to see a porn story board.

Scan one of yours in Paul. Or anyone else that uses one.
I used images from a magazine that was in a display folder of plastic pages. Same as I used for a magazine shoot.

Today I would imagine most do it on a laptop in a slide show.

Show it to the models before hand and then while shooting stop and start and give the instructions or call it out and edit it out afterwards.

Not like the story board you see for mainstream movies. They have a different budget.
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Remember this is porn world - words don't mean the same as they do in the real world



Storyboard -

REAL WORLD A shot by shot plan
PORN WORLD a few pictures
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Do you make participants shower before a shoot ? SOMETIMES

Are there really dedicated fluffers onsite ? NO

Who cleans up all the spooge ? WHOEVER MADE THE MESS OR... ME.

What do you do with the spooged furniture ? CAREFUL WHAT YOU SHOOT ON

Do the participants ever need to stop and take a shit ? is it akward to re-start after that ? any protocol ? SHIT HAPPENS.

Do you use those little scene boxes like in real movies ? NO. BUT IF I HAD A FULL TIME STUDIO I WOULD USE A MONITOR.
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OK but someone please give me a approximate idea. How much these, beautiful, amateur, no name girls paid for hardcore sex with two guys in LA or Miami?
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OK but someone please give me a approximate idea. How much these, beautiful, amateur, no name girls paid for hardcore sex with two guys in LA or Miami?
with the right agent: $5K, run out of crack in the middle of the night: $100
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with the right agent: $5K, run out of crack in the middle of the night: $100
camera optional.
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