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If Amateur or "real" porn is so popular?
If Amateur or "real" porn is so popular, why do so many sites have faked porn in?
Was posting in another thread and this hit me like a brick. So why is it that so many sites have faked porn in them. Please don't list the real Amateur sites as I didn't say they don't exist or don't sell. It's the balance between the real stuff and the faked stuff, I'm posting about. |
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Filler content?
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This is why the GF niche took such a swing up.
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Or,
They use the "faked" stuff, because they can produce it legally. |
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"real" porn can be produced. It's an art just like producing perfect "fake" porn.
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The fake stuff still beats the hell out of cheap eastern European model content.
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Or are we talking about why is fake porn being sold when the "real" or "real looking" porn is more popular? Answers to as many scenarios as possible below: People like different things. If fake porn is on a site that is supposed to be amateur and it doesn't fit the niche then that is site owners not understanding what the niche actually is. Sometimes faking real porn is easier than finding real couples/people to buy it from. If you produce it, or buy it from a producer you know it is legal. Just some reasons I can think of. If you are ofcourse talking about softcore faked porn then that is a whole other ballgame, some people like softcore porn. |
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Until recently, hardcore pornography respected certain prohibitions: although it showed ?everything,? including real sex, the narrative providing the frame for these sexual encounters was, as a rule, ridiculously non-realistic, stereotypical, stupidly comical, staging a kind of return to the eighteenth-century commedia del?arte in which the actors do not play real individuals but one-dimensional types ? the Miser, the Cuckolded Husband, the Promiscuous Wife. Is not this strange compulsion to make the narrative ridiculous a kind of negative gesture of respect: yes, we show everything, but precisely for that reason we want to make it clear that it is all a great joke, that the actors are not really engaged? Although there has been a trend, more recently, to undermine this prohibition with serious pornography, that is, pornography combined with (what tries to be) an engaging story ? for example in the work of Catherine Breillat in France ? the censorship reasserted itself with the simultaneous rise of so-called gonzo pornography. Gonzo occurs when the author cannot ? or does not want to ? remove himself from the subject he is investigating: The reporter becomes part of the event taking place. In some cases ? such as tornado chasing, where documenting is done by the person driving the car and holding the camera ? the gonzo element is inherent; however in gonzo pornography, it is a deliberate and voluntary choice ? gonzo pornography is embedded hardcore, the pornographic equivalent of embedded journalism. It is characterized by a filming style that attempts to place the viewer directly in the scene: gonzo pornography puts the camera right into the action, often with one or more of the participants both filming and performing sexual acts, thus suspending the usual separation characteristic of conventional porn and cinema. Influenced by amateur pornography, gonzo porn tends to use far fewer full body/wide shots and more close-ups. What is more important, however, is that the actors themselves constantly address the camera, wink, comment on what they are doing, all in an easy-going ironic and self-mocking style. In this way, gonzo?s highly reflexive realism signals a higher level of repression: while, in classic hardcore, the stupidity of the conversation was constrained by the fictional narrative, in gonzo, the narrative fiction is undermined we are all the time reminded that what we are watching is a staged performance ? as if to protect us from the danger of getting too involved in what we see.
Slavoj Zizek. I hope that helps.... |
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I feel my site is "Real" porn as I use real girls being 100% themselves and it is not scripted in anyway.
I shoot all the models as natural as possible, no professional hair and make-up, no scripts. I feel Sun Devil Angels is about "REAL" first timers being themselves. |
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Dear SDA
Just to let you know your "home" link on this page is broken http://www.sundevilangels.com/rachel/ |
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Look, if dick goes in vagina it's not fake ok. If brazzers goes bankrupt it's real.
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if burgers are so popular, why is there people making sushi?
if knickers are so popular, why is there people making leather boots? if lolcat images are so popular, why is there people creating original art? It's called MARKET NICHES, the most simple and basic marketing concept (on a side note, I have no idea what faked porn is other than photoshopping a dick on some celeb's ass)
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Then why do so many of these companies pay so badly. Don't say it's because professional producers can't produce it. If you think about it for 5 minutes you'll see that that's BS. There are many ways to produce it and make it real.
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The video sample seems to show the girls having a lot of fun. Some of it's scripted or the girl has seen too many porn scenes. But in the main very good. Shows shooting quality image doesn't have to mean fake porn. Quote:
The stumbling block is always the price. Simply the amateur GF type sites pay shit money. If sites can't afford it, that's the problem. If shooters can't work out how to do it that's another problem. |
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When people searched for 'amateurs' in the past they were looking for non-models. Just everyday people next door types.
Now people have to search for 'REAL amateurs' because many pay and affiliate sites used models to lure the amateur-loving crowd in. This tells me that it takes more effort and creativity to make amateur porn using real people not in the industry. Otherwise, program owners/affiliates would just do it (use real people) instead of having to fake it. One of the best sites I've ever seen using real people is www.darering.com . If anyone can tell me about more sites like this please spam away. |
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Darering looks like pro shot content, with amateur models. It is possible for me to shoot content like this. I spent 8 years shooting something similar. And I'm not unique. Do sites like Brazzers with faked porn earn more money than sites with amateur content? |
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If there is money exchanged it stops being real for anyone involved.
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because there is no thing as REAL porn. You either have real sex in your bedroom, or you act in front of a camera.
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Paul, it's all about niches. Some people prefer double anal hd videos, others will prefer to see a real couple having sex at home. Real amateur is just other niche. Since it's new and converts, it's popular.
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An old man rambling, why bother answering??
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Real amateur porn need to be shot half lousy, regular digital cameras, cell-phones, hidden cams etcetc all that can be done with amateur models and I would love for a site to do It really right. It has to be called something other than "porn".
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What it requires is a lot of knowledge in handling models, what it takes to make them step out of their "Pornstar" mode. Know how to warm them up, know how to pick out the ones who can and will do it right and have the balls to kick out a faker. And money. If the shooter is pushing himself to shoot too much for too little, he's in a rush. And the model knows she's not going to get sent home, she's in charge of the shoot. IMO shooting a faker in amateur is like shooting a flat chested girl in Big Tits. Shooting a bad faker in any niche is the same. It's not about tastes. No one wants to chew on a fake burger made from sawdust. czarina I agree with you. But making models act real isn't hard. Well it wasn't. I think LA models might be a tough nut to crack, because so many directors have put up with shit for so long. |
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http://replay.waybackmachine.org/200...m/welcome.html Notice the bubble pics and Egyptian backgrounds It was a blatant copy of CrushPhoto, but since he has a a Bugatti and lucky with money everyone approves of what FTV does no matter what. |
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Back in the day, a lot of porn consumers seemed to think BangBus was real.
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You should take your own advice you old, broken record fart.
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wrong............
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Yes wrong....
SDA is all about letting the girl to be herself. Yes I give all the models a general idea of what I need in order to capture the photos and video I need for SDA, but I let them do their thing so I get real true natural orgasms and her personality. |
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Less internet savvy and a new way to shoot porn. I had many friends who thought It was real and wouldn't belive me when I told them It wasn't lol. Many surfers today think some of the GF sites are real too. In fact some of them kinda are since they use stolen personal content.
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So why did you?
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This only confirm that old people do go back to their early childhood
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It's not?
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The only real "real" porn sites out there:
NewbieNudes.com XTube.com's Amateurs section MyDirtyHobby.com PrivatAmateure.com WatchMe.com Those actually have content submitted by the GIRLS PERFORMING, with proof of ownership and 2257 information! Forget GF sites, they are a joke compared to what these sites can generate.
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So it is possible to get amateur porn.
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And a ton of it ;) MDH gets 400 new video clips uploaded by our girls a day.
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