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Old 04-07-2011, 08:59 AM   #1
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:stop Scam Warning! Female Performers Please Read

So last night I got an email from a girl asking if someone named Erin owned Liz Vicious website and sent me a full discussion she had with this person..
I am only putting this part of the email in this post as this Erin person has been stringing this girl along for over 4 months now.

I have read thru it a couple times now and its really kind of freaky to think someone out there is coxing girls into something ( not sure what ) using our websites.

Whats your opinion on what this guy is actually trying to do?

I have removed the performers name and location for her privacy
and I have left the scammers name because he is A SLIMMY BASTARD...

Anyways be careful girls...



Erin Javis says
Hi are you there?
Is now an ok time to chat?
I was hoping we could organize your shoot for this week.
But I want to discuss more with you first

Female Performer - says
hello
have you done up the contract

Erin Javis says
Hi

Female Performer - says
how r u?

Erin Javis says
Yes it is not on this computer though I will send it through asap.
Assuming your comfortable with it though, are you free much the next 2
weeks?

Female Performer - says
yes i can be

Erin Javis says
I am well thank you. Yourself? How is life treating you?

Female Performer - says
the sooner you can get through that ill send it straight thru to lawyers name
oh the license thing is killing me but other than that

Erin Javis says
Which license thing?

Female Performer - says
i guess it stops me getting into trouble
i lost my license , so hard to get about
i got caught twice in 24 hours driving without
yes stupid i know
so 3 months turned into 17 . and nearly a jail sentence
not speeding, not drunk just without a license

Erin Javis says
Oh no good, what area of performer town are you in? Also I wanted to clear up
any confusion so I know.. Do you want to meet with co-talents for
future shoots first over coffee? Your first few are just solo as
agreed though, we do have a co-talent doing shoots in performer town now, and
it would be practical to try to get some done with you too to save
return trip. Expenses Expenses lol
Wow, be careful girl, NO JAIL ! lol

Female Performer - says
yeah will do sols first , i dont have to meet them just give me their
stats lol. and as long as they have a medical clearance i just had
all my tests done a few days ago so i ll have a clearance
now just run me through how this works .

Erin Javis says
Ok sure you have your paperwork for that?
OK sure which part can I help you with?

Female Performer - says
you do the site up , take the footage ..
just me me though ho w it works

Erin Javis says
Ok so a good example of one of our best customers sites Liz is a good
place to start. www.LizVicious.com the site is made, shoots are set on
there and through online affiliate marketing you profit (direct to you
for your own security of funds) then you send our commission monthly

Basically affiliate marketing is advertisments on the site. In its
MOST simplest form, we use a myriad of advertisers with our sites

Female Performer - says
i dont understand what you mean with the advertisers
ok so when ppl click on the site they pay to enter the site

Erin Javis says
our online marketing team sort out the viewers. We use this method for
3 reasons 1. security of funds to you 2. ongoing payment is the new
porn instead of 1 small sum in its steady 3. it limits or expenses
No thats the old web 1.0 method

Female Performer - says
so where does the paymnt go to ?

Erin Javis says
Noone pays for porn now, porn creators are paid when people click on
site 'leads' (everytime someone clicks your paid, no need for them to
sign up or provide credit card details) the advertisers use this
method as it allows them to have targeted niche viewers, porn for porn
for example
Typically paypal, or it can be set up in your own account to transfer
to your bank, you will have access to all passwords and account info,
not us for payments... security
I hope this explains it

Since it is not traditional monetary system some people dont get it,
but the internet is a whole other game. Clicks are cash

Female Performer - says
so i can have access to the account and info thats good . i just
looked over the site it looks good . so people would mainly take the
4.95 3 day access i guess. maybe better system than that
because i think you'd lose out money that way
so sorry the payment goes to where , then how does it come to me , and
what % get forwarded to you?

Erin Javis says
Typically we get 30%-40% depending on work, and paypal is the most
successful timely method, you would create an account and all we would
need is your email address to have it send automatically everytime it
reaches $100 groups.
So for example, site makes first $100 you get it in your paypal, then
it makes another, it goes in your paypal again... end of month you
just send our 30%-40% and thats it
shoots for first 3-4 months need to be 4 times a month (1 time a week)
to ensure correct marketing then it slows to 2 times a month to
continue steady income

Female Performer - says
depending on work? the liz vicious site seems to be registered to
someone in phoenix. sorry one other question .. i don't understand
where the payment foes to and how it gets to me
the webmasters are jayman cash ,usa

Erin Javis says
Yes Phoenix is right. Ok so affiliate marketing advertisments goes
from the ad campaigns to your paypal, you can get your money out by
setting up bank transfer in paypal
Yes thats right

Female Performer - says
ok so i thought you were the webmasters

Erin Javis says
yours will be set as Aus

Female Performer - says
that is a sample of your work?

Erin Javis says
Each site has its local location as its Whois
Liz is american
I thought I mentioned that sorry lol
all good

Female Performer - says
i thought that was a sample of your sites?

Erin Javis says
it is. Like I said, you own everything for your own security
haha

Female Performer - says
but it has a different webmaster with a different contract address

Erin Javis says
Liz and her boyfriend do all the shoots, its under his webmastering
and her address.

Female Performer - says
with their photos addresses and contact details
not liz

Erin Javis says
You will just have your info, if you chose to

Female Performer - says
tom the missus and selena
are the webmasters
what ideas have you got on the type of site, which way would you market it

Erin Javis says
Well I wanted to ask you if you have a particular niche style, as Liz
is a alternative girl, which is why she does so well for us
How would you describe yourself. ?
girly, bad, alternative? Something that makes you stand out helps

Female Performer - says
naturalist naturist nudist.
outdoorsy will send you footage i have . may be able to use it
will have to put it on s disk cos the files are too large to put on here

Erin Javis says
Oh ok I see sure, perhaps your co-talent could simply get it of you,
if you cant email through, where in performer town where you?
So would you consider outdoor shoots, risky locations etc?

Female Performer - says
ill post it to you a disk , whats your addy?
yes i ve got a few spots i m thinking
i started looking at doing this with someone else , he was a waste of time
full of shit
i prefer working with girls than guys ,

Erin Javis says
Oh really you know some good locations. Yeah, what is someone else?
Where they located?

Female Performer - says
he owned a bikini lingerie business , he wanted to get into porn
production he got me to get some girls together for interviews never
went any further

Erin Javis says
Oh that sucks
performer town needs a better porn industry
Something needs to be done
Such potentional
*potential lol

Female Performer - says
he still advertises for girls now still but he is in it for
cheap thrill of interview , people that scam in this business are fuck
wits . thats why i am asking alot of questions , you get alot of
scammers i have so many emails that are just scams
performer town does nt have a porn scene

Erin Javis says
Oh wow, whats the point of just talking ... i don't get it.. why does
her do it? I understand your need for questions, I am used to it
Well performer town needs one
Can I ask you a few performance related questions about your abilities?

Female Performer - says
i know i wish i had a copy of the letter i sent out to a few people
youll like it , ill see if i can email you a copy

Erin Javis says
Oh I think you did! :D

Female Performer - says
solos easy enuf . hj , i am very dominate lol can u tell

Erin Javis says
ok so you prefer not to be dominated in shoots?

Female Performer - says
wont go large anal i liek to think it will still work after , i am not
large in the vaginal canal so i dont really go large , i can squirt
sometimes
i am dominate

Erin Javis says
ok. Is deepthroat/gag an issue as this is are best profit creator really
that and anal

Female Performer - says
i get a bit takey overy i guess but that might be cos of the person lol

Erin Javis says
Ok. But with the right person your fine with not doing that?

Female Performer - says
depends on the size , i have to go in a minute to pick up my boy from
school, whats the address i can send the footage to
and the contract wanna send it thru so i can send it off
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Old 04-07-2011, 09:10 AM   #2
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just sounds like some bullshit artist getting his thrills talking to a porn girl
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Old 04-07-2011, 09:13 AM   #3
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Weird! Could be a simple perv getting off on the conversation and possibility of actually meeting this girl, or something far more sinister. Good thing the girl was intelligent enough to catch on before anything happened.
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Old 04-07-2011, 09:18 AM   #4
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why put someone's name in there when they are most likely using a fake name?
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Old 04-07-2011, 09:20 AM   #5
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why put someone's name in there when they are most likely using a fake name?
I would say if they are using a fake name with her they may be using the same fake name with other girls thats why i left it in as a warning to any girls talking to this Erin person or if someone contacts them with this name.
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Old 04-07-2011, 09:22 AM   #6
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just sounds like some bullshit artist getting his thrills talking to a porn girl
Could very well be... But this isn't an actual porn girl per say.
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Old 04-07-2011, 09:25 AM   #7
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that is fucking weird....
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Old 04-07-2011, 09:27 AM   #8
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same person http://www.facebook.com/people/Erin-...400858?sk=wall
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I would like to move to 'performer town'... Sounds a cool place to live
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its obviously someone on here.
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Yep, that is Tom's picture. He uses his "I'm just a sexy girl" routine to lure them in. ;)
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The payment part confused me, wtf kind of scam is he trying to run there?
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Asshole, quit fucking with my mojo! I almost had a new piece in my collection. Back to the drawing boards...
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Old 04-07-2011, 01:33 PM   #14
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plenty of potential raping going on here.
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Sounds like maybe he got her to pay for her own site, one of the girls i been working with had some asshole get her to pay not much at least for a site, bunch of bs.
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