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[Mixon]

Hello
Michail from Serious Partners here. I'm looking for content provider who is working in sex parties/group niches. Drop me their contacts if you know any.

thanks
mail: [email protected]

Example:
http://tour.collegefuckfest.com/
http://www.studentsexparties.com/
http://www.partyhardcore.com

[Mixon]

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[babymaker]

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[Paul Markham]

Are you looking for custom shoots or non exclusive.

I might be able to help with the custom shoots side, depends on the price.

For non exclusive Lesbian part stuff see this.

Lesbian Party videos. 3 girl and up to 8 girl sex. A few Xmas scenes also, ignore them.

[TrainWreckContent]

i might be able to help out as well hit me up contact info in sig...

[Mixon]

to Paul Markham
We're looking for exclusive custom hardcore content, can you recommend/offer something?
We can order exclusive lesbian content too though if you do that?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Mixon

to Paul Markham
We're looking for exclusive custom hardcore content, can you recommend/offer something?
We can order exclusive lesbian content too though if you do that?

Good luck with the prices you're offering.

You might get it shot in Russia.

Seriously work on a minimum of $1500 for BG, 30 minute scene. BGG $2,000.

And add $500 per girl and $250 per boy. This would be for a 30-40 minute scene shot in Czech.

Some student might shoot all his friends, but good luck with that.

Be specific in what you mean by party. How many people, how long, setting, ages, etc.

[cooool]

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i know this guys, very cool content and very good support

[cooool]

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[nikki99]

see my siggy ok

[babymaker]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Good luck with the prices you're offering.

You might get it shot in Russia.

Seriously work on a minimum of $1500 for BG, 30 minute scene. BGG $2,000.

And add $500 per girl and $250 per boy. This would be for a 30-40 minute scene shot in Czech.

Some student might shoot all his friends, but good luck with that.

Be specific in what you mean by party. How many people, how long, setting, ages, etc.

How much is he paying? Didnt see it posted?

[HarryMuff]

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[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by babymaker

How much is he paying? Didnt see it posted?

He emailed it assuming what he said was for the whole scene it's not even peanuts. It's worse than that.

What do you think it should be for this?

Approximate script of a 3.5+ hour long movie filmed in REALITY style with young guys and girls (of
college student age) participating in it.

Budget for English-speaking models is about ???????

[Dejan]

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[MaDalton]

unfortunately this has been previously discussed and Paul is right - outside of Russia or any similar place only some dedicated student with his friends can shoot for that price. sorry

[JOELK]

Just emailed you;)

[NickB.]

good to see collegefuckfest.com mentioned there

[babymaker]

Approximate script of a 3.5+ hour long movie filmed in REALITY style with young guys and girls (of
college student age) participating in it.

Budget for English-speaking models is about ???????

Wow 3+ almost 4 hours after editing of non stop orgy footage in a movie with lots of different young hot models, I have no idea :D Didn't sleep but too much, and tons of work. Even at rock bottom would cost a lot tho, did they say how many models needed?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by babymaker

Wow 3+ almost 4 hours after editing of non stop orgy footage in a movie with lots of different young hot models, I have no idea :D Didn't sleep but too much, and tons of work. Even at rock bottom would cost a lot tho, did they say how many models needed?

Nothing about how many models, but with 3.5 hours and a party scene it has to be 3 girls and 2-3 boys.

The price rocked me that they were offering. Does anyone have a guess to offer?

[geneticmonkey]

1400 $ ?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by geneticmonkey

1400 $ ?

You must be joking. Or in a very very cheap place to shoot.

[Jim_Gunn]

If Stefan & Paul are calling the client's proposed budget less than peanuts, it must really be low. I have a lot of experience shooting group sex scenes with fresh faced American girls and would love to do another project like this. But for 3 girls, 3 guys, four sets/scenes with at least one being anal and a whopping 3 1/2 hours of footage, this kind of shoot is a very expensive proposition no matter how you slice it. No way I could touch it even at the rate they suggested to me recently either, which I bet was even higher than they must have floated to my European counterparts.

[Lykos]

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[babymaker]

What did they offer $200 or $5 this is porn biz in 2011 :D From the buy and sell forum i bet they will get 50 people to take them up for $5 Good idea.

[JustDaveXxx]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

If Stefan & Paul are calling the client's proposed budget less than peanuts, it must really be low. I have a lot of experience shooting group sex scenes with fresh faced American girls and would love to do another project like this. But for 3 girls, 3 guys, four sets/scenes with at least one being anal and a whopping 3 1/2 hours of footage, this kind of shoot is a very expensive proposition no matter how you slice it. No way I could touch it even at the rate they suggested to me recently either, which I bet was even higher than they must have floated to my European counterparts.

Im guessing that you couldn't even rent the gear and pay the help for the shoot, for the budget that got proposed.

[geneticmonkey]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

You must be joking. Or in a very very cheap place to shoot.

I was refering to their offer. 1400 Usd. How off am I ?

Besides, my guess was carefully calculated according to this:
3 girls, 3 boys, 3 hours

a) Czech amateur first/second timer girls - 300 bucks per girl per day = 900$
b) Czech amateur guys - 100 bucks per guy per day - 300$
c) 1 broke ass Czech producer shooting this in his apartment (no location cost) - 200$ for his work / profit
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total 1400 $

Can it be done for that price ? Yes of course it can, if you don't take the models via agencies and have a very desperate producer.

Dont underestimate the power of broke ass desperate people who can't get any job.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by babymaker

What did they offer $200 or $5 this is porn biz in 2011 :D From the buy and sell forum i bet they will get 50 people to take them up for $5 Good idea.

The porn business for sites paying this money is crap because the customers when they do eventually convert don't stay long, cancel ot charge back. If you're selling crap, expect crap sales and returns.

Originally Posted by geneticmonkey

I was refering to their offer. 1400 Usd. How off am I ?

Besides, my guess was carefully calculated according to this:
3 girls, 3 boys, 3 hours

a) Czech amateur first/second timer girls - 300 bucks per girl per day = 900$
b) Czech amateur guys - 100 bucks per guy per day - 300$
c) 1 broke ass Czech producer shooting this in his apartment (no location cost) - 200$ for his work / profit
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total 1400 $

Can it be done for that price ? Yes of course it can, if you don't take the models via agencies and have a very desperate producer.

Dont underestimate the power of broke ass desperate people who can't get any job.

I love it watching the clueless talk about subjects they know nothing about. I never talk about programming, why? I know FA about it and programmers are cheap to hire. That will upset a few.

You missed the part about English speaking, so Czech actors might be a problem.

Then getting amateur girls can also be a problem and paying them little even more of a problem, what if they get up and walk off or don't turn up or decide they don't like someone or a number of reasons it can turn pear shaped.

Amateur boys in a 3 1/2 hour scene.
I don't even need to explain that one.

A broke content producer is broke because he's crap.

Work on $500 per girl minimum
$300 per boy minimum
$1,000 for 1 shooter.
$500 for a location.

3 girls, 2 boys = $3600.

Then ask yourself is it worth more to sell it to a DVD company?

Or give it to a content broker and sell it to a DVD company?

Or sell stills to some magazines, video to a content broker and video to a DVD company?

Or sell video to cable companies, sell stills to some magazines, video to a content broker and video to a DVD company?

Serious partners were offering $2500.

Don't under estimate broke sponsors ability to afford decent content.

[babymaker]

$2,500 is more than I thought it was, but i checked that sample sites and it looks like you would need 10+ girls and guys all young and hot, so only way to do it would be, not paying models directly, need to throw a party and get 2257 etc at door then just film everything with lots of cams. Plus, going to need a few shooters for this kind of content, maybe 3 cam guys one on stills. Then a few people to run the party and do some directing to keep things moving. Really hard to think how it would be possible.

[geneticmonkey]

Paul your prices might be valid 3 years ago now they are not.
For 500$ per scene I can get Tarra White or Carla Cox and they are a bit more popular and experienced than your typical CZ amateur whore suitable for a party video.

1000 for a shooter ? Yeah right, you get-ex proffesional shooters who shot for companies such as Private at 200 bucks daily (and we're talking about people who have decades of experience).
500 for location ? 500 gets you a top Villa-type location in CZ, I dont see a point in hiring a 500 sqm location with a pool for the this type of shoot.

Obviousely you are a bit unfamiliar with prices big CZ producers, who actually STILL SHOOT like Leo TV, pay.

Selling to DVD company, content brokers, stills to magazines, video cable companies ?

Content brokers make very little sales per title. It is actually impossible to recoup the production price if you sell via content brokers today. Impossible in 1,3,5 years, impossible per se.

Magazines are virtually dead or they recycle their own shit or stills they get together with licensed DVDs (at 300 usd reprint right per title license).

DVD companies dont buy content that was not produced by their own crew and is not in line with their series mostly.

Video cable companies work with big production houses like Penthouse, Private, Hustler, they dont need or want to buy 1,2,100 productions from some unknown producer fuck.

Get a reality check Paul. Great theory you posted, however in real life it doesn't hold up.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by geneticmonkey

Paul your prices might be valid 3 years ago now they are not.
For 500$ per scene I can get Tarra White or Carla Cox and they are a bit more popular and experienced than your typical CZ amateur whore suitable for a party video.

1000 for a shooter ? Yeah right, you get-ex proffesional shooters who shot for companies such as Private at 200 bucks daily (and we're talking about people who have decades of experience).
500 for location ? 500 gets you a top Villa-type location in CZ, I dont see a point in hiring a 500 sqm location with a pool for the this type of shoot.

Obviousely you are a bit unfamiliar with prices big CZ producers, who actually STILL SHOOT like Leo TV, pay.

Selling to DVD company, content brokers, stills to magazines, video cable companies ?
Content brokers make very little sales per title. It is actually impossible to recoup the production price if you sell via content brokers today. Impossible in 1,3,5 years, impossible per se. Magazines are virtually dead or they recycle their own shit or stills they get together with licensed DVDs (at 300 usd reprint right per title license). DVD companies dont buy content that was not produced by their own crew and is not in line with their series mostly. Video cable companies work with big production houses like Penthouse, Private, Hustler, they dont need or want to buy 1,2,100 productions from some uknown producer fuck.

Get a reality check Paul. Great theory you posted, however in real life it doesn't hold up.

If I knew who you are I would know if you had a clue what you were talking about. As you hide behind a nick I must assume you don't have a clue and logic is way beyond your grasp.

The OP has come to GFY because the good shooters have already turned him down Stefan isn't the only one. I turned him down as well and I'm not working. So you talk BS.

Yes a crappy scene can be shot. But a crappy scene for 3.5 hours???????????????

You talk utter BS. An unknown is going to shoot a crappy scene and the cable companies know it, so do the DVD companies. A magazine set of this scene is worth more than $2500, even today. Stop showing ignorance. Give us proof you have a clue.

Affiliates and sponsors. When ratios and retention sucks, think about what this guys approach has on them. Crap products sell crap.

[geneticmonkey]

3,5 hours is a killer, I agree.
But I guess one could figure out how to set it up from logistics standpoint.
I dont have the time or nerves to really think about it atm.
Also english-speaking I didnt see this requirement before I posted my guess quote. English-speaking pretty much eliminates 90% of CZ amateur-type models, and the other 10% will sound Russian.

I am not hiding behind a nick, its my first one on gfy. I've been involved in the past quite a bit in the content business as a manager and supervisor so I am familiar with some things (and prices).

Anyway I didn't mean to bash your or Madalton. You both have my respect and I wish you both the best. Dealing with content these days and in this state of the industry, especially online one, is very demanding.

I was just refering to the actual price, for which the production could be made, based on the facts I saw posted.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by geneticmonkey

3,5 hours is a killer, I agree.
But I guess one could figure out how to set it up from logistics standpoint.
I dont have the time or nerves to really think about it atm.
Also english-speaking I didnt see this requirement before I posted my guess quote. English-speaking pretty much eliminates 90% of CZ amateur-type models, and the other 10% will sound Russian.

I am not hiding behind a nick, its my first one on gfy. I've been involved in the past quite a bit in the content business as a manager and supervisor so I am familiar with some things (and prices).

Anyway I didn't mean to bash your or Madalton. You both have my respect and I wish you both the best. Dealing with content these days and in this state of the industry, especially online one, is very demanding.

I was just refering to the actual price, for which the production could be made, based on the facts I saw posted.

I'm telling you your way of working it out won't work.

Making a 3.5 hour film isn't something that can be done for your prices. A 35 minute scene could, but it's not going to be very good.

Amateurs are often a nightmare to work with. Today they all need to be tested, do you know the cost of a STD/HIV test here in Czech? Amateur girls can be a nightmare but it can be got around.

Amateur boys might not get wood, might lose wood, might cum to soon, might not cum at all, might not know how to treat a girl they met 1 hour ago in a sex scene.

Neither will know the right positions for shooting. Neither will know how to act on camera and some might do great and really enjoy themselves and some might act like bad porn stars.

A lone bad shooter working for peanuts isn't going to able to control this scene in any way. It needs an experienced person.

Yes it can be done for a shit price, but it's going to be shit. A good shooter who knows how to shoot this isn't going to shoot it for that money. Even in 2011 there are far easier ways to make money. If you knew anything about the real content market you would know this scene is worth a lot more shot properly.

serious-partners.com obviously don't have a clue what this could be worth marketed properly to all the markets in porn. Even today this is worth $25,000 sold and shot properly. Without a single website sale. A scene for $2,500 is going to make very little money.

[geneticmonkey]

You win I lose. Now I'm off to get a bit of a tan and you enjoy your trolling supremacy on the forum. Ta ta.

[Loki]

Originally Posted by Mixon

Hello
Michail from Serious Partners here. I'm looking for content provider who is working in sex parties/group niches. Drop me their contacts if you know any.

thanks
mail: [email protected]

Example:
http://tour.collegefuckfest.com/
http://www.studentsexparties.com/
http://www.partyhardcore.com

Sent you an email regarding a diff matter, I've been trying to get in touch with someone in your content dept for the last few days lol.

-Loki-

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by geneticmonkey

3,5 hours is a killer, I agree.
But I guess one could figure out how to set it up from logistics standpoint.
I dont have the time or nerves to really think about it atm.
Also english-speaking I didnt see this requirement before I posted my guess quote. English-speaking pretty much eliminates 90% of CZ amateur-type models, and the other 10% will sound Russian.

I am not hiding behind a nick, its my first one on gfy. I've been involved in the past quite a bit in the content business as a manager and supervisor so I am familiar with some things (and prices).

Anyway I didn't mean to bash your or Madalton. You both have my respect and I wish you both the best. Dealing with content these days and in this state of the industry, especially online one, is very demanding.

I was just refering to the actual price, for which the production could be made, based on the facts I saw posted.

and i am not meaning to bash Paul Markham, but yes, you are right, it can be done. it is done already and i know people who do it. mostly organized by male performers who work with girls they meet at productions.

just for someone like me it's not worth to get involved in - too little profit for too much work. for someone who wants to have some fun, fuck, and make a few hundred bucks it's a nice job.

but it's not a job for professional producer

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

and i am not meaning to bash Paul Markham, but yes, you are right, it can be done. it is done already and i know people who do it. mostly organized by male performers who work with girls they meet at productions.

just for someone like me it's not worth to get involved in - too little profit for too much work. for someone who wants to have some fun, fuck, and make a few hundred bucks it's a nice job.

but it's not a job for professional producer

3/5 hours?

Yes, this scene is great for guys who need to get fucked and great fore them.

Male or female porn models need to get fucked on the cheap these days. Shit the biz has sunk lower than I thought.

If you know anyone doing it, put them my way. I could probably make them more money and take a cut myself. Unless it's real crap.

If this is the level of the business is it any wonder customers are becoming harder to find?