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Old 04-09-2011, 08:48 PM   #1
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The Problem With Paul Markham.............

..............is that Paul Markham has a 100% correct handle on things and a lot of going-broke assholes just can't handle the TRUTH!



Thank you Paul for your valuble input and my best wishes to you and yours.
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Old 04-09-2011, 08:50 PM   #2
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We get it Marion, you senior citizens have to stick together.
Pardon me but GFY!

You would not know good advice if it bit you on the ass.
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yeah good one Marion that's tellin em!
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Old 04-09-2011, 09:11 PM   #5
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yeah good one Marion that's tellin em!
If any of you halfwits had even 1/4 of a brain, you would listen to Paul. He will be around profiting long after you have given up and gone home.

An pailli0n....................

Lemurs are smarter than you..................................

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You would not know good advice if it bit you on the ass.
....but I know a fraud when I see one.
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You would not know good advice if it bit you on the ass.
You are a fucking idiot. Do us all a favor and just leave. You are not wanted and provide no benefit through your existence.
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You are a fucking idiot. Do us all a favor and just leave. You are not wanted and provide no benefit through your existence.
Oh, Exalted One!

I have no recollection of ever having asked your permission!

BAD DOG!

NO BISCUIT!



A few months early............................................. .........

And............................................... ............................

GFY!
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Old 04-09-2011, 09:46 PM   #9
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And I think we're witnessing another mental meltdown on GFY.
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Yeah, baddog is quite likely in some kind of stressful situation now.
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I am not the guy trying to pass himself off as an ignorant chick. If anyone has issues, there is no doubt it is you.
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We all get old one day or another
True, but we all don't pretend to be females on gfy and defraud our friends and business partners.
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When I first hit here I was telling people most were buying crap content, that wouldn't do them any good in the long run. Most of the crap content producers in those days have long gone.

I also told them that spending 50% on getting a client and 10% (Approx figures) on the product or keeping him wasn't going to work. Especially when a rebill is found money that costs less.

I also told them treating a customer badly isn't good for long term. Because someone will find a way to satisfy his needs better and make a profit.

Fast Forward to 2011.

Sites full of poor to average content shot by people who couldn't work in offline porn, mainly.

Retention is crap. So are ratios because.

They found a better person to satisfy their needs. The sites throwing out free porn in the hope of getting a sale on the 1 in 1,000s who can be persuaded.

This industry is in the shitter because instead of competing with free porn, it aids to the opposition to buying.

You never win friends telling them they're doing something wrong and being proved right.
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When I first hit here I was telling people most were buying crap content, that wouldn't do them any good in the long run. Most of the crap content producers in those days have long gone.

I also told them that spending 50% on getting a client and 10% (Approx figures) on the product or keeping him wasn't going to work. Especially when a rebill is found money that costs less.

I also told them treating a customer badly isn't good for long term. Because someone will find a way to satisfy his needs better and make a profit.

Fast Forward to 2011.

Sites full of poor to average content shot by people who couldn't work in offline porn, mainly.

Retention is crap. So are ratios because.

They found a better person to satisfy their needs. The sites throwing out free porn in the hope of getting a sale on the 1 in 1,000s who can be persuaded.

This industry is in the shitter because instead of competing with free porn, it aids to the opposition to buying.

You never win friends telling them they're doing something wrong and being proved right.
Paul,

There is a market in any niche you go into as long as you know to market yourself. If you are good at what you do stick to it. Money isn't what it use to be in porn, but if you put effort into what ýou want to be established you can succeed.

There is not a get rich quick method, it takes dedication and you only get results if you are willing to work for it.

I respect you as a person and as someone that has had success in the adult industry and wish you many more happy, successful years to come.
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Did you ever stop to think if it wasn?t for senior citizens there would be no citizens?

Also if you?re going to brag about your life of luxury I suggest you at least spell it properly.
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Two delusional old fucks, posting delusional shit. It's like movie time at the old folk's home up in here. Only difference is that Paul still has some common sense in tact. Marion has slipped completely into a permanent state of dementia.
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..............is that Paul Markham has a 100% correct handle on things and a lot of going-broke assholes just can't handle the TRUTH!
The problem with him he has a douche like you in his corner. Even if he right it's not doing him any favors having you on his side. If I were him I'd distance myself from you as far as I could.
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Did you ever stop to think if it wasn’t for senior citizens there would be no citizens?

Also if you’re going to brag about your life of luxury I suggest you at least spell it properly.
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, the thread starter was caught pretending to be a young female (he's a 60+ yr old male) on this board for a year and defrauding his friend and partner. Reread my sig again and see who the quote is from before attributing it to me.
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Well I'm not exactly a post master, was just responding to your reply that appeared to mock senior citizens and this signature contained in your posts.

Originally posted by Sleazydream
"you can be as smug as you want in your mommy's basement thinking you won this round - but you're still in your mommy's basement. guys like lars and I are living in luxery homes (we OWN) driving luxery cars flying first class around the world with multiple real estate properties and cash in the bank."
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Well I'm not exactly a post master, was just responding to your reply that appeared to mock senior citizens and this signature contained in your posts.

Originally posted by Sleazydream
"you can be as smug as you want in your mommy's basement thinking you won this round - but you're still in your mommy's basement. guys like lars and I are living in luxery homes (we OWN) driving luxery cars flying first class around the world with multiple real estate properties and cash in the bank."
you should shut up if you have no idea what you are talking about
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Who the fuck are you and what right do you have to comment about posts that have nothing to do with you?
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being a member of GFY gives him the right to reply to anything he wants. if u dont like it, there's some pussy forums you can join.

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If any of you halfwits had even 1/4 of a brain, you would listen to Paul. He will be around profiting long after you have given up and gone home.
i'd rather listen to someone with current knowledge of the industry, not someone with decade-old knowledge of the magazine business.

that's just me tho. you can love who you want.

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Paul,

There is a market in any niche you go into as long as you know to market yourself. If you are good at what you do stick to it. Money isn't what it use to be in porn, but if you put effort into what you want to be established you can succeed.

There is not a get rich quick method, it takes dedication and you only get results if you are willing to work for it.

I respect you as a person and as someone that has had success in the adult industry and wish you many more happy, successful years to come.
I agree with what you say. And it's a method used by most successful people in most businesses.

The problem with porn is a lot thought it was easy and a get rich quick business.

The problem is many didn't have a clue what the market was and thought marketing = giving it away.

The people who thing I can't market porn are clueless. How did I sell anything if I couldn't market well?

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i'd rather listen to someone with current knowledge of the industry, not someone with decade-old knowledge of the magazine business.
You like most trolls will listen to anyone who says what you want to hear. Doesn't have to be the truth, just what you want to hear.

And that's been the main problem for 10 years. "Bro's" churning out the same message which basically = The more you give away the more you will sell.

Until the free content was better than the bought content for 99.9% of surfers. In fact everyone would be earning a lot more if 1-1,000 of online porn consumers did buy porn. The true number would be more like 1-3,000.

Here's some marketing advice for 2011. Make the INSIDE or paysites better than the outside free stuff. Rocket science it maybe, but that would make me a rocket scientist.

I know how, just can't be bothered these days, paysites were always 3rd in line on our income structure. If they had of been higher I would of created a proper paysite that would of been far better than most online. Not hard, just take 20 years experience.
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you don't even know the definition of "troll"

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do it then. show us up.
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Just because people have good tours on their paysites doesn't mean a lot. You can pay someone to get your site to look fantastic on the outside. The people will sign up and when they get inside they will freak because the paysite lacks uniqueness and doesn't keep recurring members. Research your niche, find suitable videos, and have a page or a forum where questions can be answered so they know they are paying for something that will interest them. Refunds suck, dedicate yourself into one paysite at a time and when you have profitable results, and understand what a average joe is looking for, you will eventually start making it.

Paul understands the basic principals of what people like to see and what people want. That made him successful. As time goes by all he has to do is adapt to the new standards and profit off new ways if he needs to and I think he has enough grasp on adult to do so.
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Well I'm not exactly a post master, was just responding to your reply that appeared to mock senior citizens and this signature contained in your posts.

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"you can be as smug as you want in your mommy's basement thinking you won this round - but you're still in your mommy's basement. guys like lars and I are living in luxery homes (we OWN) driving luxery cars flying first class around the world with multiple real estate properties and cash in the bank."
Yes, now look who posted that statement in my sig and that will explain the misspelling you attributed to me. You not only aren't a post master, but you're really clueless as to what has transpired with the thread starter and why I commented as I did. Sally Rand pretended to be a young female for the last year and was recently outed as being a 60+ yr old guy. I wasn't mocking senior citizens at all, but suggesting that Sally's support for Markham was based solely on their similar ages.
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I'm kind of sorry to ask this but in view of the fact that your post may well have broken the Internet and represents the heights of trolling, stupidity and ignorance, I must ask if yo Momma dropped you on your head when you were a child?

You cannot be serious.

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Damn, when are you going to wake up and realize it's over? IMO the last paysites that gave it a good run was BangBro's. Nothing inventive has come around in years and it's the same tired old content/concept. As you mention, most free tubes like Xhamster, Tube8, etc. have better free content then the majority of paysites.

The only thing in porn paying minimal or consistent is cams and that market is over saturated to the point it even makes Adult FriendFinder look like a new idea.
Yes. I'm not even sure if someone could afford to launch a site that would truly sell. The market went down so many blind alleys in search of a quick buck the demise was inevitable. If it hadn't of been BW dropping to a price that made giving away porn in massive amount, easier than selling it. It would of been something else. Dating sites will go the same way because a free non porn dating site will be more profitable than a porn related dating site. Girls will join and members on sites like AFF will soon learn they're a con. Even Cams could go to a donation/tips model.

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Just because people have good tours on their paysites doesn't mean a lot. You can pay someone to get your site to look fantastic on the outside. The people will sign up and when they get inside they will freak because the paysite lacks uniqueness and doesn't keep recurring members. Research your niche, find suitable videos, and have a page or a forum where questions can be answered so they know they are paying for something that will interest them. Refunds suck, dedicate yourself into one paysite at a time and when you have profitable results, and understand what a average joe is looking for, you will eventually start making it.
Define making it. Earning $50K or $100K, is nice if you're working in a proper job for $40K but note really "Making it" and how long will it last.

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Yes understanding porn isn't rocket science, creating good porn needed some guidance and experience. Not rocket science.

As fr adapting. I've adapted in this business many times. Never had any intentions of becoming an affiliate and looked at opening a paysite 10 years ago and decided it wasn't the most profitable route for me then. It would of hurt the other sides of the business.
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..............is that Paul Markham has a 100% correct handle on things and a lot of going-broke assholes just can't handle the TRUTH!


Thank you Paul for your valuble input and my best wishes to you and yours.

Marion.... How ironic you would be preaching the "truth" to other people.
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Old 04-10-2011, 11:14 PM   #41
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Thank you Paul for your valuble input and my best wishes to you and yours.
Is that Paul and his valuable "input" in your ass Marion?




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Old 04-10-2011, 11:43 PM   #42
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Two old men confessing their love for each other and then theres pictures of old men banging



i bet sally/marion is a bottom
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Old 04-10-2011, 11:54 PM   #43
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Old 04-11-2011, 12:40 AM   #44
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Ugh. Will, you need prison time for that.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !

As someone who has dealt with Paul over a couple of years and knows him and his 'exploits' very well I can safely say that he can shoot pictures and videos of amateur style porn, but when it comes to the webmastering business he is an idiot.

Who can forget some of the funniest Paul Markham moments ... the fake surfer emails, the magic join links ... so many times he has proven what a plank he is lol.
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Who can forget some of the funniest Paul Markham moments ... the fake surfer emails, the magic join links ... so many times he has proven what a plank he is lol.
Oh, I don't know the fake surfer email story, do share!
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Old 04-11-2011, 05:49 AM   #48
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !

As someone who has dealt with Paul over a couple of years and knows him and his 'exploits' very well I can safely say that he can shoot pictures and videos of amateur style porn, but when it comes to the webmastering business he is an idiot.

Who can forget some of the funniest Paul Markham moments ... the fake surfer emails, the magic join links ... so many times he has proven what a plank he is lol.
And who remembers someone buying some old content from Bargain Basement and then complaining it was saturated?

Bought $600 worth, used it on the tour and then said people were charging back because all the content was saturated. $600 and the reason they canceled was, he bought cheap saturated content.

And who remember someone who couldn't make it in porn and now had to go to mainstream to earn a living. And someone whose Tube site had little to no traffic. Still got your porn sites? If so post a link.

Only you said it was a fake email, no proof just came out and lied.
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Old 04-11-2011, 06:21 AM   #49
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..............is that Paul Markham has a 100% correct handle on things and a lot of going-broke assholes just can't handle the TRUTH!

Your words would carry more weight if:

1. You had any experience in the adult interwebs.
2. You had ever biought or marketed adult content.
3. You had ever run a successful business.
4. You hadn't blown all of your credibility on your posting as a girl ruse.

Whoever said that you were hurting Paul more than helping him by supporting him had it exactly right. Kind of like having the KKK endorse a candidate.



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Fiddy problems with Paul.

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