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Old 04-10-2011, 10:28 AM   #1
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Barack Obama - isn't a United States citizen

Barack 'Arabic' Obama, The President of the United States can not produce a hospital birth certificate, only a substitute. In many states, that substitute certificate isn't accepted identification for a standard library card.

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Barack Obama is not even legally a black American. He only has one black great-great-grandmother on his father's side while the other seven were Arabic.

That makes him 50% white, 43.75% Arab, and 6.25% black. 12.5% is the minimum required to legally claim any racial status in America.

Obama would qualify as the first Arab-American president, NOT the first black president. That is why they keep saying "African-American" and NOT black because they know he is African Arab and not African black.

Of course the little black-lie will be told over, and over, and over again and he will rely on those eighth-grade educations he recently refereed to his black supporters as having to get them to buy it.

Prove that wrong.
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Barack 'Arabic' Obama, The President of the United States can not produce a hospital birth certificate, only a substitute. In many states, that substitute certificate isn't accepted identification for a standard library card.

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so he has seven Arabic great-great-grandmothers? From what your non-linked numbers are pointing to here

he's white!

also, do you stand by this statement: 'Barack Obama is not even legally a black American.'
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so he has seven Arabic great-great-grandmothers? From what your non-linked numbers are pointing to here

he's white!

also, do you stand by this statement: 'Barack Obama is not even legally a black American.'

'Seven' was a miss-quote.
GFY allows a certain amount of time to edit a post here.

With respect to race.. Obama could have one drop of African blood in him and the blacks call him black. Shame he's not focused on one project to benefit the black people of this country.

This thread is mainly about Obama producing his Kenyan hospital birth certificate.
The birth certificate topic will be Obama's downfall in 2012.
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So, in 1961, a journalist from Honolulu news paper got into a time machine, got out in 2008, saw what was going on, and sped to 1961 so they could publish a fake birth announcement to cover Obama's ass.

Uh huh.
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So, in 1961, a journalist from Honolulu news paper got into a time machine, got out in 2008, saw what was going on, and sped to 1961 so they could publish a fake birth announcement to cover Obama's ass.

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So, in 1961, a journalist from Honolulu news paper got into a time machine, got out in 2008, saw what was going on, and sped to 1961 so they could publish a fake birth announcement to cover Obama's ass.

Uh huh.
No matter which bleeding heart baby boomer direction you chose to go..

Where is Obama's hospital birth certificate ?
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This thread is mainly about Obama producing his Kenyan hospital birth certificate.
That one is the fake: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

Snopes is non-partisan, and and a far better source of facts that most.

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Like Donald Trump is looking real smart these days.

Even freshman GOP congressmen are saying to lay off the birth certificate nonsense. Any politician bringing this up YET AGAIN has nothing new to bring to the table. We're supposed to vote for that kind of "leadership"?
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Just another way to waste tax money...to make sure the POTUS is a real American. ::rolling eyes::

It's stupid, it's a waste of time, and it won't have any effect what-so-ever even if they find out he was born in Kenya. Stupid shit like this is what's tearing the U.S. apart at the seams.
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'Seven' was a miss-quote.
GFY allows a certain amount of time to edit a post here.

With respect to race.. Obama could have one drop of African blood in him and the blacks call him black. Shame he's not focused on one project to benefit the black people of this country.

This thread is mainly about Obama producing his Kenyan hospital birth certificate.
The birth certificate topic will be Obama's downfall in 2012.
'the blackies' only represent 13% of the population of the USA.. what project could he focus on that would benefit only 'black people', that wouldn't benefit everyone else?
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Barack 'Arabic' Obama, The President of the United States can not produce a hospital birth certificate, only a substitute. In many states, that substitute certificate isn't accepted identification for a standard library card.

Additional facts;
Go away with this unsubstantiated shit already. Damn I'm tired of seeing this thread at the top of the page...

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Barack 'Arabic' Obama, The President of the United States can not produce a hospital birth certificate, only a substitute. In many states, that substitute certificate isn't accepted identification for a standard library card.
Wher I live a hospital birth certificate is not a valid form of ID. And I certianly don't have my original hospital birth certificate. So I guess I'm not American either.

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Barack Obama is not even legally a black American. He only has one black great-great-grandmother on his father's side while the other seven were Arabic.

That makes him 50% white, 43.75% Arab, and 6.25% black. 12.5% is the minimum required to legally claim any racial status in America.

Obama would qualify as the first Arab-American president, NOT the first black president. That is why they keep saying "African-American" and NOT black because they know he is African Arab and not African black.
Well going by those supposed stats he's white then since he's more white than anything. Also there used to be a time where if you were 1% black you were still considered a "n-word"

Ever see a pic of his dad? How can a guy that looks like Dwayne from What's Happening not be black?



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Prove that wrong.
I think we've proven you're an idiot.

It's amazing how people so against Obama being a President because ONE of his parents isn't American are/were for Arnold being president so much. And his dad was a Nazi.
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Long form = you, the human being, were born in a hospital by a doctor who signed said form as well as your parent/s.. You don't have to get this form from the hospital. A certified copy can be obtained from vital records.

Short form = A "person" who is living who needs proof he/she is who he/she is claiming to be. IE. A person who is claiming to be say, Barack Obama, can have a short form. Not a long form. Because the "name" Barack Obama was born in the US. A short form "person" (look up the legal definition of person and it also means corporation) represents a name. Let's say you were for some odd reason put into a witness protection program. YOu would receive a short form.

In summary, the NAME he is claiming to be was born in the US.
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So wait, he can't be Arab because black people speak what language? Black isn't a language dummy and just like someone can be black and French you can be black and Arab
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Ex-Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims

The Hawaiian state health official who personally reviewed Barack Obama's original birth certificate has affirmed again that the document is "real" and denounced "conspiracy theorists" in the so-called "birther" movement for continuing to spread bogus claims about the issue.

"It?s kind of ludicrous at this point," Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, said in a rare telephone interview with NBC.

Fukino, sounding both exasperated and amused, spoke to a reporter in the aftermath of Donald Trump's statements on the NBC Today show last week questioning whether Obama has a legitimate birth certificate.

Trump, who says he is considering a run for president, repeated his claims on CNN's "State of the Union" Sunday, saying that "nobody has any information" about the president's birth and that "if he wasn't born in this country, he shouldn't be president of the United States."

No matter what state officials release on the issue, the "birthers" are going to question it, said Fukino. "They?re going to question the ink on which it was written or say it was fabricated," said Fukino. "The whole thing is silly."

As the top Hawaiian official in charge of state health records in 2008, when the issue of Obama's birth first arose, Fukino said she thought she had put the matter to rest. Contacted by NBC, Fukino expanded on previous public statements and made two key points when asked about Trump's recent comments.

The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate ? described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" ? absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it ? twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files ? and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document's validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 ? after reviewing the original birth record a second time.

"It is real, and no amount of saying it is not, is going to change that," Fukino said. Moreover, she added, her boss at the time, Lingle ? who was backing John McCain for president ? would presumably have to be in on any cover up since Fukino made her public comment at the governor's office's request. "Why would a Republican governor ? who was stumping for the other guy ? hold out on a big secret?" she asked.

Her second point ? one she made repeatedly in the interview ? is that the shorter, computer generated "certification of live birth" that was obtained by the Obama campaign in 2007 and has since been publicly released is the standard document that anybody requesting their birth certificate from the state of Hawaii would receive from the health department.

The document was distributed to the Obama campaign in 2007 after Obama, at the request of a campaign official, personally signed a Hawaii birth certificate request form downloaded on the Internet, according to a former campaign official who asked for anonymity. (Obama was "testy" when asked to sign the form but did so anyway to put the issue to rest, the former campaign official said. The White House has dismissed all questions about the president's birth as "fictional nonsense.")

The certification that the campaign received back ?which shows that Obama was born in Honolulu at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961 ? was based on the content of the original document in state files, Fukino said.

"What he got, everybody got," said Fukino. "He put out exactly what everybody gets when they ask for a birth certificate."

Hawaiian officials say that the certification is, in fact, only one piece of abundant evidence of Obama's birth in Hawaii. Joshua Wisch, a spokesman for the Hawaii attorney general's office, noted that a public index of vital records, available for inspection in a bound volume at the Health Department's Office of Health Status Monitoring, lists a male child named "Obama II, Barack Hussein" as having been born in the state.

In addition, as Factcheck.org and other media organizations have repeatedly pointed out, both of Honolulu's newspapers, the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 13, 1961, and the Honolulu Star Bulletin, on Aug. 14, 1961, both ran birth announcements listing Obama's birth on Aug. 4 of that year.

Even Fukino accepts that her comments are not likely to end the matter for the die-hard birthers. Trump and other skeptics have questioned why the original birth certificate has not been released.

But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general's office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of "vital records," including an original "record of live birth" ? even to the individual whose birth it records.

"It's a Department of Health record and it can't be released to anybody," he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said.

But if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer generated "certification of live birth" form that everybody else gets ? which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.

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Love all the excuses, reasoning, theories, opinions, goofy pictures and corny comments but
still no birth certificate.

Why doesn't Obama produce his hospital birth certificate?
He's the President, what's is so difficult?


Silly of me, I forgot, he rather spend two million dollars trying to cover it up.

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Love all the excuses, reasoning, theories, opinions, goofy pictures and corny comments but
still no birth certificate.

Why doesn't Obama produce his hospital birth certificate?
He's the President, what's is so difficult?


Silly of me, I forgot, he rather spend two million dollars trying to cover it up.

This probably won't matter but:

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Also, the whole idea of the born-in-the-US for candidacy is actually kinda dubious to me...

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if you live in the UK you cant be King or Queen whoever you are or wherever you live, like forever. Makes it even worse when they aren't even english and are mostly like greek and german so at least u get a chance.
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Old 04-10-2011, 03:49 PM   #40
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Love all the excuses, reasoning, theories, opinions, goofy pictures and corny comments but
still no birth certificate.

Why doesn't Obama produce his hospital birth certificate?
He's the President, what's is so difficult?


Silly of me, I forgot, he rather spend two million dollars trying to cover it up.


You're an army wife that lives off the government tit who spends your day masturbating to giant black cocks on the internet. Every once in a while your guilt for loving the black cock rises to the surface so in order to push the guilt back down you frequent right wing birther sites so you can once again feel wholesome. About sum it up?
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It seems likely that there is some issues with his birth certificate given all the obfuscations on the issue and the failure to produce the document...... but at the end of the day what difference does it make? The concern with Obama should be his gross incompetence, hard left ideology and corruption. People need to start focusing on the real issues instead of falling for obvious distractions.
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you think the government didn't check already? what a joke
Honestly NO. It wasn't in the job description, LOL
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not my job, or everyone assumes someone else did.

What gets me is WHY doesn't Obama just show the Long form?
Why did he pay so much to have everything sealed? ( I am guessing this is true) but if not just Produce a copy of the LONG form, and stop all this crap once and for all.

What the OP is saying is the short form can be changed to say whatever you want it to, then you can have court records sealed.

I know this for a fact, since my short forms shows my step mom as my Birth mom and not who gave birth to me.

When I went to get my sons SS number they asked me for my moms maiden name on my birth cert, I gave them the one on the short form, since that is all I mostly knew. WRONG answer, I looked stupid because they were asking me for my REAL not short form answer.

Anyway, to me the short form means SHIT.

Do I think someone like Hillary checked, YEP.
Either way, what is done is done for now, just wish Obama would end this crap, and not keep sealing stuff. So much for transparency.
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Old 04-10-2011, 04:25 PM   #43
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What gets me is WHY doesn't Obama just show the Long form?
All the answers are available to anyone who actually wants to read them.

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html


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You are kinda cute but VERY retarded
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Love all the excuses, reasoning, theories, opinions, goofy pictures and corny comments but
still no birth certificate.

Why doesn't Obama produce his hospital birth certificate?
He's the President, what's is so difficult?


Silly of me, I forgot, he rather spend two million dollars trying to cover it up.

Listen you dumb cunt WTF is your issue? Really I'm asking. Is you BEST reasoning for John McCain being President is that Obama isn't an American? Oh by the way McCain was born in PANAMA. OH you do realize if Obama had to resign because he wasn't an American then Joe Biden becomes president not McCain. Do you really want that?
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All the answers are available to anyone who actually wants to read them.

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html


Again it all depends on how you read it.

"Based upon that review, the DOH has determined that the information listed below constitutes all of the publicly available information related to requests for vital statistics records pertaining to President Barack Hussein Obama II"

It says all PUBLICLY AVAILBLE INFO, again my Public info shows not my Blood mom, but my Birth mom.

"State law prohibits the DOH for disclosing any information about a Hawaii vital record unless the requestor has a direct and tangible interest in the record. This includes verification of vital records and all the information contained in a record. Vital records disclosure laws protect all birth, death, marriage and divorce records held by the department and all amendments, changes, supporting records, and requests related to vital records"

(all amendments, changes, supporting records)

Again my Certificate of Live Birth was changed to show my step mom.

Am I a birther? almost NO,
Just show your LONG form for crying out load.

I do admit the News article is fairly convincing.
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Again it all depends on how you read it.

"Based upon that review, the DOH has determined that the information listed below constitutes all of the publicly available information related to requests for vital statistics records pertaining to President Barack Hussein Obama II"

It says all PUBLICLY AVAILBLE INFO, again my Public info shows not my Blood mom, but my Birth mom.

"State law prohibits the DOH for disclosing any information about a Hawaii vital record unless the requestor has a direct and tangible interest in the record. This includes verification of vital records and all the information contained in a record. Vital records disclosure laws protect all birth, death, marriage and divorce records held by the department and all amendments, changes, supporting records, and requests related to vital records"

(all amendments, changes, supporting records)

Again my Certificate of Live Birth was changed to show my step mom.

Am I a birther? almost NO,
Just show your LONG form for crying out load.

I do admit the News article is fairly convincing.
I don't have the long form. Am I not an American? Neither do my parents.
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Besides the fact that if Barack's mother did have him in Kenya one would think someone would have remembered a very white and very pregant woman flying with a very black man literally halfway around the world from Hawaii to Kenya. It was 1961 after all. And you'd think someone would certainly have remembered a white woman with a newborn mixed baby and a balck man on the flight on the way back to Hawaii. Remember this is 1961. Not to mention that such a trip would have required a passport so there would be some documentation somewhere of Obama's mom making this trip. Not to mention that it would have be advised that a pregant woman about to give birth flying into a backwards and disease infested country would not be a good idea.
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Ever see a pic of his dad? How can a guy that looks like Dwayne from What's Happening not be black?


I think you meant Roger or "Raj".
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I think you meant Roger or "Raj".
yeah whatever. they all look the same to me.
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