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Old 04-10-2011, 11:01 AM   #1
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20 000 visitors a day, how much money you can make with that?

Do you think that with 20 000 visitors a day to blogs, in many various niches, mostly from search engines you can make some money? I have this amount of visitors, and I still don't know if I'm making crazy low money with that traffic, or just average. How much money do you think is possible to make with such traffic, it is US and western countries traffic.
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Old 04-10-2011, 11:05 AM   #2
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What is your daily CTR? Lets say with 1:2k conversion and 5% CTR you have 15 sales a month?
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and how many are from SE ?

my guess is the same, around 15-20 sales monthly...
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Hmm that seems I'm making quite good and the problem is in traffic, I always thought that I should change those blogs and maybe I will make some money.. yes usually 10-15 sales a month.
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Obviously sales are a LOT harder to come by in this day and age thanks to piracy.

Then you have to factor in whether or not any of those blogs has substantial traffic.
If you have 100 blogs with 200 hits on them daily, then it's going to be difficult to make money with that 20,000 hits.

If you had one blog with 20,000 unique visitors then YES you can make nice money with that. All spread out though...it's harder to get a sale off a few hits. Sites just don't convert like they used to thanks to the fact that everything is now free. So it's tough.
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You could have 20,000 hits from the search engine from the 8th spot for "Porn" and make several hundred a month, or you could have 20,000 hits from 1st spots for terms like "big nipples", "black ass" and "milf blowjobs" and make several hundred a day.

On top of it depending on what terms and rank (1st,5th,6th,9th) it will also depend on what you're selling them, did you match up the paysite to the search terms? Is it a perfect match for what they are looking for or just a general match?

Tons of factors come into this.
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Depending of the keywords and countries of the visitors. Give us more details to get a proper answer. Im sure low countries SEO traffic will only consume bandwidth without sales. But if you are smart, any kind of traffic can bring you revenues.
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you'll need to redirect your traffic by countries and mobile or you will never make more than 10 sales. also keywords redirection would be good if you can. this is the biggest problem with splitted traffic, 100 hits with keyword black to your asian blog = 1 hit
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Keywords are matching sponsors perfectly on my blogs, because I promote huge amount of various sponsors, problem is that some of the sponsors who used to make really great money for me are not making new updates anymore and when I tried different sponsors it didn't work. If there are some sponsors with country specific tools, I would give it a chance, so if you know about some, let me know.
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If the right sponsors are available that's over $1K per month affiliate sales, if not sell links, like you are, which should come to over approx $1.5K per month.
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if you want legit advice, list some of your bigger sites so we have something to go off of. there are so many factors affecting how much you could make that nobody can give you an estimate simply based on the information you have given.
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If I had 20k a day of targeted traffic and didnt make several hundred dollars from it per day, I'd have a fucking heart attack.

I get quite a bit less than that and do 5 figures per month. You need to figure out what your traffic is targeted to and offer them the correct content.
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Then you have to factor in whether or not any of those blogs has substantial traffic. If you have 100 blogs with 200 hits on them daily, then it's going to be difficult to make money with that 20,000 hits.

If you had one blog with 20,000 unique visitors then YES you can make nice money with that. All spread out though...it's harder to get a sale off a few hits.
That's bullshit. That like saying one dude buying 20,000 Powerball tickets has a better odds of winning the jackpot than a group of 100 people each buying 200 tickets. The odds are the same.
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That's bullshit. That like saying one dude buying 20,000 Powerball tickets has a better odds of winning the jackpot than a group of 100 people each buying 200 tickets. The odds are the same.
No they aren't. If I send 10,000 hits to a single paysite from one link I guarantee you I'll make sales and a person sending 100 hits from 100 sites to different paysites won't.

This isn't "odds". It's converting traffic. If you simply aren't sending enough traffic to any one paysite your just not gonna make sales.

It has nothing to do with playing powerball. lol This guy has a bunch of blogs. I'm assuming that what he is linking to from each blog is targeted toward the theme of the blog (to give it any value obviously). So he's sending targeted traffic to many different paysites. But with only 20,000 hits combined TO his sites (not clicking on the links to the sites he is promoting), it's very difficult to convert traffic. He could only be sending a couple of dozen hits to each of the sites he's promoting for instance.

How the heck you come up with powerball and odds with that is beyond me. But I'm telling you from years of experience...if you want to make money you need to have a lot of targeted traffic.
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No they aren't. If I send 10,000 hits to a single paysite from one link I guarantee you I'll make sales and a person sending 100 hits from 100 sites to different paysites won't.

This isn't "odds". It's converting traffic. If you simply aren't sending enough traffic to any one paysite your just not gonna make sales.

It has nothing to do with playing powerball. lol This guy has a bunch of blogs. I'm assuming that what he is linking to from each blog is targeted toward the theme of the blog (to give it any value obviously). So he's sending targeted traffic to many different paysites. But with only 20,000 hits combined TO his sites (not clicking on the links to the sites he is promoting), it's very difficult to convert traffic. He could only be sending a couple of dozen hits to each of the sites he's promoting for instance.

How the heck you come up with powerball and odds with that is beyond me. But I'm telling you from years of experience...if you want to make money you need to have a lot of targeted traffic.
I think what he's getting at is partly mentioned by you too.

The targeted traffic from each niche blog *should* enable him to get better ratios overall.
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with about 20k uniques/day to my sites i get anywhere from $100-$200. i'm talking about straight SE traffic to my blogs and not from bullshit traded traffic. thats initial sales not rebills. rebills will obviously drive that number up and down depending on the day. so id expect at least a handful of sales a day on average.

a lot of these guys saying 10-15 sales a month must have shitty non-niche sites with lots of shitty hardlink/toplist traded traffic. because those numbers are hard to believe. with 20k uniques to one of my blogs i could push about or around 10k uniques to a sponsor.

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Same thing over time, for example give it a year, 100 / day * 365 = 36500 to each site.


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No they aren't. If I send 10,000 hits to a single paysite from one link I guarantee you I'll make sales and a person sending 100 hits from 100 sites to different paysites won't.

This isn't "odds". It's converting traffic. If you simply aren't sending enough traffic to any one paysite your just not gonna make sales.

It has nothing to do with playing powerball. lol This guy has a bunch of blogs. I'm assuming that what he is linking to from each blog is targeted toward the theme of the blog (to give it any value obviously). So he's sending targeted traffic to many different paysites. But with only 20,000 hits combined TO his sites (not clicking on the links to the sites he is promoting), it's very difficult to convert traffic. He could only be sending a couple of dozen hits to each of the sites he's promoting for instance.

How the heck you come up with powerball and odds with that is beyond me. But I'm telling you from years of experience...if you want to make money you need to have a lot of targeted traffic.
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20K per day uniques from good countries that you send to a good program should make you at least on average 250 USD per day = 1750 USD per week and about 7500 USD per month.

If you have 20K per day on your sites but send only 5K per day to a good program, you should make at least on average 65 USD per day.
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No they aren't. If I send 10,000 hits to a single paysite from one link I guarantee you I'll make sales and a person sending 100 hits from 100 sites to different paysites won't.

This isn't "odds". It's converting traffic. If you simply aren't sending enough traffic to any one paysite your just not gonna make sales.

It has nothing to do with playing powerball. lol This guy has a bunch of blogs. I'm assuming that what he is linking to from each blog is targeted toward the theme of the blog (to give it any value obviously). So he's sending targeted traffic to many different paysites. But with only 20,000 hits combined TO his sites (not clicking on the links to the sites he is promoting), it's very difficult to convert traffic. He could only be sending a couple of dozen hits to each of the sites he's promoting for instance.

How the heck you come up with powerball and odds with that is beyond me. But I'm telling you from years of experience...if you want to make money you need to have a lot of targeted traffic.
I agree with that as I have the same experience. I am sending about 75% of my traffic to the same program and that makes about 99% of my sales. The rest of my 25% traffic is spread to several programs (all kinds of sponsors) and that only makes 1% of my sales.
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No they aren't. If I send 10,000 hits to a single paysite from one link I guarantee you I'll make sales and a person sending 100 hits from 100 sites to different paysites won't.

This isn't "odds". It's converting traffic. If you simply aren't sending enough traffic to any one paysite your just not gonna make sales.

It has nothing to do with playing powerball. lol This guy has a bunch of blogs. I'm assuming that what he is linking to from each blog is targeted toward the theme of the blog (to give it any value obviously). So he's sending targeted traffic to many different paysites. But with only 20,000 hits combined TO his sites (not clicking on the links to the sites he is promoting), it's very difficult to convert traffic. He could only be sending a couple of dozen hits to each of the sites he's promoting for instance.

How the heck you come up with powerball and odds with that is beyond me. But I'm telling you from years of experience...if you want to make money you need to have a lot of targeted traffic.
and he has 20,000. Whether it's 20K from one site or 100 it's 20K. Assuming the traffic is of the same "quality" ( define that how you want ). It won't matter if it's 1 site or 100. And don't patronize me with your "years" of experience. Look at your join date and look at mine.
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with about 20k uniques/day to my sites i get anywhere from $100-$200. i'm talking about straight SE traffic to my blogs and not from bullshit traded traffic. thats initial sales not rebills. rebills will obviously drive that number up and down depending on the day. so id expect at least a handful of sales a day on average.

a lot of these guys saying 10-15 sales a month must have shitty non-niche sites with lots of shitty hardlink/toplist traded traffic. because those numbers are hard to believe. with 20k uniques to one of my blogs i could push about or around 10k uniques to a sponsor.

stats from yesterday =
site uniques = 28,693
sponsor uniques = 13,134
sales = 7
rebills = 4
$160.61

average day i'd say...

send 7 sales a day my way and I'll pay you $400 / day

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I get around 25k uniques per day with 38% SE traffic and keep hovering between $400 and $700 in sales per month (including rebills!).
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My site is www.babepedia.com. Most traffic I sent is targeted babe traffic from banners and free hosted galleries on model profile pages.

I thought I was doing pretty good with these numbers, but judging from the replies in this thread, I suck Anyone willing to help me can email me at [email protected] (without the 321). I am willing to share the increase if you can help me. No spam from programs please. Also, if anyone wants to buy my site, I'm open to offers.
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I get around 25k uniques per day with 38% SE traffic and keep hovering between $400 and $700 in sales per month (including rebills!).
Here are my stats for last month:


My site is www.babepedia.com. Most traffic I sent is targeted babe traffic from banners and free hosted galleries on model profile pages.

I thought I was doing pretty good with these numbers, but judging from the replies in this thread, I suck Anyone willing to help me can email me at [email protected] (without the 321). I am willing to share the increase if you can help me. No spam from programs please. Also, if anyone wants to buy my site, I'm open to offers.
You're wasting a lot of your traffic on programs that aren't converting, but at the same time you've got some great sponsors there
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20K per day uniques from good countries that you send to a good program should make you at least on average 250 USD per day = 1750 USD per week and about 7500 USD per month.

If you have 20K per day on your sites but send only 5K per day to a good program, you should make at least on average 65 USD per day.
True dat on all accounts. I can do well that with even less traffic on some sites, but it's niche highly targeted which is key. I do not, nor ever have, tried to hit 50 different niches. That said, most of the traffic is SE and interlinked network. Plus it comes from years of branding. So I have good countries, and quality with many buying patrons.

However, you have a lot of traffic bouncing around. So if it's good countries and quality, you should be making more on par with the above IMHO. If it's junk traffic, you should make pennies.

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I get around 25k uniques per day with 38% SE traffic and keep hovering between $400 and $700 in sales per month (including rebills!).
Here are my stats for last month:


My site is www.babepedia.com. Most traffic I sent is targeted babe traffic from banners and free hosted galleries on model profile pages.

I thought I was doing pretty good with these numbers, but judging from the replies in this thread, I suck Anyone willing to help me can email me at [email protected] (without the 321). I am willing to share the increase if you can help me. No spam from programs please. Also, if anyone wants to buy my site, I'm open to offers.
That is very similar to my stats, but I can't believe that some of guys here makes few hudreds a day with same traffic, that seems to me just impossible, since I have tried really lot of different sponsors, niches etc..
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My problem is that sponsor who converted even last year about 1:2000 converts this year like this , if I could simply send the traffic elsewhere I would, but it s from videos on dozens different blogs and other sponsors converts pretty similar... They just absolutely stopped creating any sales..
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I get around 25k uniques per day with 38% SE traffic and keep hovering between $400 and $700 in sales per month (including rebills!).
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My site is www.babepedia.com. Most traffic I sent is targeted babe traffic from banners and free hosted galleries on model profile pages.

I thought I was doing pretty good with these numbers, but judging from the replies in this thread, I suck Anyone willing to help me can email me at [email protected] (without the 321). I am willing to share the increase if you can help me. No spam from programs please. Also, if anyone wants to buy my site, I'm open to offers.
Honestly, that's not too bad. You are promoting a huge number of different sites under ccbill so ratios are going to look blown out when if you went through on a site by site basis they wouldn't be 1/10k.

You also seem to have a heap of user submitted gallerys there - and from what I looked at, they aren't linking back to you so replace them with your own galleries. Takes time but hey - well worth have more content on your site.

Also why not try taking things back to basics, your gallery pages should focus on the girl/sponsor only. Remove EVERYTHING else apart from a link to the sponsor and a link to your home page.

I always try to treat gallery pages different to the rest of my site (retain the design to an extent but not a full navigation or anything to tempt them to click anywhere but the sponsor) - they get a basic page with images / video(s) and a link or two with a description to the sponsor - then at most there will be a link to the home page. No need to let ANYTHING distract the user from cranking one out and buying.

I like your site, nice and simple, unlike most other 'babe' type sites out there which a banner farms and popup hell.
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Heh, should be working now.. been working too much lately.
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Heh, should be working now.. been working too much lately.
The program you're trying to refer people in your sig is not called "Sextracker", thats a completely different product altogether. Mtree's cam program is referred to as "Streamate".
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I agree with Robbie's overall assesment (big surprise) but I would ask Robbie this: Yes, if he's sending 20k hits to 50 differant sponsers then I totally get your point (he'll never make significant sales). BUT: what if he were sending those 20k hits - even if they came from a 100 differant blogs - to the SAME sponser? Then he would make more sales, yes? Assuming the sponser was good, of course.

This is what I plan on doing: building 100 blogs but have them ALL pointing to my best-converting paysite ErosExotica. (www.erosexotica.com) That site converts at about 1:400-500 so with 20k hits to THAT paysite I would expect 30-40 sales.
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I agree with Robbie's overall assesment (big surprise) but I would ask Robbie this: Yes, if he's sending 20k hits to 50 differant sponsers then I totally get your point (he'll never make significant sales). BUT: what if he were sending those 20k hits - even if they came from a 100 differant blogs - to the SAME sponser? Then he would make more sales, yes? Assuming the sponser was good, of course.

This is what I plan on doing: building 100 blogs but have them ALL pointing to my best-converting paysite ErosExotica. (www.erosexotica.com) That site converts at about 1:400-500 so with 20k hits to THAT paysite I would expect 30-40 sales.
I've also been doing this and it worked, but only for some time, then you would have to build another 100 blogs with key phrases and sponsors that sells and so on forever... that is how I ended up with network of blogs that does not generate any real income So I would never suggest anyone making so big amounts of sites, because then it is almost impossible to send the traffic to somewhere else. If I were starting again today I would build max 50 sites and developing them...
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Search engine traffic can be very valuable. It depends on which keywords you are getting traffic from. For example, if you get traffic from keyword "buy porn DVD now," you will sure get a lot of porn DVD sales. You will not get many sales from keyword "free porn DVD." Good luck.
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Search engine traffic can be very valuable. It depends on which keywords you are getting traffic from. For example, if you get traffic from keyword "buy porn DVD now," you will sure get a lot of porn DVD sales. You will not get many sales from keyword "free porn DVD." Good luck.
Just brilliant, I never would have guessed this, thanks once again for your keen insight and words of wisdom.
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I agree with Robbie's overall assesment (big surprise) but I would ask Robbie this: Yes, if he's sending 20k hits to 50 differant sponsers then I totally get your point (he'll never make significant sales). BUT: what if he were sending those 20k hits - even if they came from a 100 differant blogs - to the SAME sponser? Then he would make more sales, yes? Assuming the sponser was good, of course.

This is what I plan on doing: building 100 blogs but have them ALL pointing to my best-converting paysite ErosExotica. (www.erosexotica.com) That site converts at about 1:400-500 so with 20k hits to THAT paysite I would expect 30-40 sales.
Then you could start possibly seeing GREAT search engine placement and sales. My comment was just that if you had some blogs and they are all sending to their respective niche sites a very small amount of traffic each day, then it's gonna be tough.

Doing what you are saying starts to create back links and is an age old way to get search engine traffic that is effective.
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Then you could start possibly seeing GREAT search engine placement and sales. My comment was just that if you had some blogs and they are all sending to their respective niche sites a very small amount of traffic each day, then it's gonna be tough.

Doing what you are saying starts to create back links and is an age old way to get search engine traffic that is effective.
Whew! Because before I have my team starting building blogs I thought it best to triple-check. LOL

"Age-old" is still the best way, in many areas.
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