Hey Gideongallery! Come in here and explain it to us!

[blackmonsters]

Gideongallery has much to say about how producers of content are not adapting to
the internet. He says that websites should be able to upload and broadcast other
people's content without paying fees(fair use) and this should benefit the content
producers and webmasters.

He sees nothing wrong with a tube site showing full length movies that they
ripped from members areas of pay sites and that the pay sites need to
change the way they do things and benefit from this.

So Gideongallery, please give everyone here the method by which to do this.

Lets take a simple example and have you explain the way to adapt it into a success.
If you are right then you should have no problem giving us the answer and we
will follow your advice and STFU forever because you were right all along.


Here is the example :

- I own six pay sites with a total of 10,000 scenes
- All my scenes have been uploaded to youporn, redtube, etc...
- None of the tubes link back to any of my pay sites
- My pay site network currently gets only 2% of the traffic volume as a single tube
- I'm not getting any signs for memberships
- I'm not going to make the tubes take down the content, I'm going to adapt


Ok that's the scenario. Now please lay out a comprehensive plan of action
that will allow someone in the above scenario to adapt and become profitable to
recover all the investment at 300% (spend $1 get back $3)


This is not a troll, I really want to know the solution that you have.
You must have a solution or why would you make the claims that you do.

Tell us how to adapt and we will do it.

Thanks

[Agent 488]

two words: branding bugs.

[Grapesoda]

is there a way to waterermark on vid with bug on the 'download'?

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

two words: branding bugs.

2 words is not very "comprehensive".

Many people here have no idea of what a "branding bug" is, including me.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

2 words is not very "comprehensive".

Many people here have no idea of what a "branding bug" is, including me.

a bug is the little logo you see in the corner of tv programs

[Agent 488]

you would be better studying why and how people upload vids all day with their watermark and how they convert those type-ins and url searches.

people are spending time and capital on it for a reason.

[Mutt]

Gideon's a typical know it all who's never done anything in his entire life yet they're experts.
He'll respond in generalities, vague ideas he's read somewhere such as 'branding bugs' 'product placement' etc having no idea if it's viable and what kind of money it could bring in. Has no idea about the costs of producing content.

He won't take you up on your challenge because he is clueless about the economics of anything other than the allowance his parents give him. he probably doesn't even understand that, most likely he's a spoiled kid who doesn't even have to bother with budgeting what he spends, his parents just pay for everything little Gideon wants.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

a bug is the little logo you see in the corner of tv programs

Is it called a bug because it bug's the shit out of viewers?

.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

you would be better studying why and how people upload vids all day with their watermark and how they convert those type-ins and url searches.

people are spending time and capital on it for a reason.

don't all the major tubes remove the watermarks and replace with their own?

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

don't all the major tubes remove the watermarks and replace with their own?

no ........... maybe in some cases but not really. still plenty of watermarks and people put their url in the video title as well.

[JFK]

What, no Gideon yet ?

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

you would be better studying why and how people upload vids all day with their watermark and how they convert those type-ins and url searches.

people are spending time and capital on it for a reason.

First, I asked gideongallery not you.

Second, putting a logo on a video is already done and obviously it's not doing
enough to stop the complaining.

Third, I asked for a "comprehensive plan of action"; you have not provided one
in your post yet.

Fourth, maaaaaaaaannnnnnn....plz STFU

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

First, I asked gideongallery not you.

Second, putting a logo on a video is already done and obviously it's not doing
enough to stop the complaining.

Third, I asked for a "comprehensive plan of action"; you have not provided one
in your post yet.

Fourth, maaaaaaaaannnnnnn....plz STFU

whatever man i gave you the answers on how people are making money off tubes in reality but whatever.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

whatever man i gave you the answers on how people are making money off tubes in reality but whatever.

You didn't answer shit except tell us to do what we already have been doing for years.

STFU.

[TheDoc]

The answer is rather simple... start getting traffic from different locations that aren't looking for free movies. It's not like the entire Internet visits tubes or you could contact the tubes and start working with them directly, so many options, endless really.

[Alky]

Maybe it's time to stop expecting a 300% return...

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

no ........... maybe in some cases but not really. still plenty of watermarks and people put their url in the video title as well.

most of the minor illegal tubes do and of cause, its very common to see a black bar in the corner overlapping the original watermark and having a dot thumblogger subdomain atermark overlaid on top.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Alky

Maybe it's time to stop expecting a 300% return...

I don't what business you ever invested in where you stayed in business for more
than a year with less than 300%; unless you were borrowing all the investment money
from banks on a quarterly or annual basis.

If you have $1 in your pocket and invest it and a year later get back $2;
then you have $2 in your pocket. Now you invest $1 again for the next
year and now you have $1 in your pocket; which is exactly where you started a
year ago.

WTF are you working for.....your investment?????

You ever hear those statistics where that say the average business fails
in the first two years? The above scenario would be exactly why.
You can't do "double the money" with your own money.

That shit don't work, but people keep trying it and wondering why they seemed
successful but ran out of money anyway.

[pornguy]

Interesting to see no reply so far.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Interesting to see no reply so far.

Maybe he's taking his time to write a truly comprehensive plan that cannot be
disputed.

I hope so.

I'm interested.

[czarina]

I completely disagree with full length videos on tubes. That's why we removed all download options from our sites

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Interesting to see no reply so far.

His shift ends in like an hour or so...

[woj]

What you are asking is like asking how to be successful at selling VCR players...
the selling of VCR players just like the paysite model is and forever will be in the decline stage, no getting out of it...

[Ravage]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Interesting to see no reply so far.

Like Doc said, he's still working at his day job at Canadian Tire.