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Old 04-16-2011, 03:24 PM   #1
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Chinese pirate a whole factory

Family shredder business stolen by the Chinese.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/chin...ina-54204.html

The worth of the products already manufactured and blocked—what Fellowes in his testimony said are “feature-rich, IP-protected”—is $100 million. This includes 70,000 completed paper shredders, going to rust in the factory.

Shinri also won’t let Fellowes recover the over 1,000 custom molding tools, the fruit of decades of refinements of engineering designs, worth $10 million.

The Chinese pirated this guys' entire factory.
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Old 04-16-2011, 03:25 PM   #2
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Boycott them? Haha. And how exactly does that happen?

I'd be impressed if you, or anyone else, could go 15 minutes without touching something manufactured by the Chinese. Good luck.
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Old 04-16-2011, 03:30 PM   #3
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No shit this happened to me in the adult toy business.
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Old 04-16-2011, 04:56 PM   #4
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Old 04-16-2011, 04:58 PM   #5
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that is what you get for outsourcing
keep it at home, where it will do good
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Old 04-16-2011, 05:00 PM   #6
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that is what you get for outsourcing
keep it at home, where it will do good
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Old 04-16-2011, 06:22 PM   #7
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looks like the Chinese are tired of working like animals to make US companies big bucks
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Old 04-16-2011, 06:40 PM   #8
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Yep, FUCK THEM
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Old 04-16-2011, 06:41 PM   #9
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looks like the Chinese are tired of working like animals to make US companies big bucks
Ummm. The innovation comes from outside china because they can not create anything. All they can do is copy. Without outside influence they would still be riding bicycles on dirt pathways. The chinese mind is clever in certain ways and hundreds of years behind western in many others.
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Old 04-16-2011, 06:59 PM   #10
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All they do is steal. I mean, none of them join sites. They just scrape and steal.
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Old 04-16-2011, 07:05 PM   #11
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Those cocksuckers can't innovate anymore. Most of their efforts revolve around stealing the work of others. In the end this will be great for the USA and other countries who have been farming their work out to Chinese slaves.
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Old 04-16-2011, 07:19 PM   #12
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These shredders are sure powerful - they can rip a piece of paper into 2,000 pieces. It's unfortunate that million-dollar manufacturing tools were stolen. The business was destroyed.
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Old 04-16-2011, 11:13 PM   #13
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Exactly, fuck them. Everything they had was in China. Their country, their rules.

They lost.
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Old 04-16-2011, 11:18 PM   #14
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Had a german company contact me about selling their product on my website. Browsed their pricelist and also realized I already sold their product at a much lower cost.

Replied to the guy, "hey we already sell your product"

He replied "No shit, that's cool, but we are the manufacturer and can offer you the best price"

My reply "you might want to discuss that your factory in china"
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Old 04-17-2011, 01:01 AM   #15
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Japan did the same in the 1950's through to the early 1980's. Most Japanese products, especially electronics, were copied from US, Australian and UK designs.

Now it's China's turn, although China seems to be a bit more aggressive in how it goes about it, problem is nobody will stop China. China is a juggernaut and sheer population means that nobody has a hope of stopping them.
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Old 04-17-2011, 01:22 AM   #16
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Japan did the same in the 1950's through to the early 1980's. Most Japanese products, especially electronics, were copied from US, Australian and UK designs.

Now it's China's turn, although China seems to be a bit more aggressive in how it goes about it, problem is nobody will stop China. China is a juggernaut and sheer population means that nobody has a hope of stopping them.
There's a difference between benchmarking and copying. Japan was heavy on benchmarking improving the quality of products and manufacturing processes. Haven't seen the same with Chinese products ever.
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:02 AM   #17
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From experience of China's factory prices they will have made far more than they have just lost out of the whole deal.
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:33 AM   #18
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When will Americans remember that the word "Communist" precedes the word "China"?

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Old 04-17-2011, 04:54 AM   #20
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In other news... George Bush sold the US to China.



IF you're a tea party supporter, Birther or Republican... then you should know that a lot of US debt was sold to China while Bush was your president.

Boycotting China... That's not an option.
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Old 04-17-2011, 06:31 AM   #21
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Fuck em. Thats what they get for outsourcing. They got what they deserved. Corporations are global entities now. This is not some poor unfortunate "American" company- just some multinational coporate bloodsucker who got outsmarted and outfoxed by a quicker and more cunning fox than them. Who gives a shit-
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In my case I had no choice but to outsource the manufacturing of our toy.

We were able to sell our toy at 1/4 the price it would have cost us to produce the product here - without including the fact the start up cost on the molds were 1/15th the US start up costs.

We had contracts, design and utility patents, trademarks and were working with the same factory that made the talking fish. Their reputation as Chinese factory's go was stellar.

The just used our molds, boxes and artwork to make the product and sell it around the world and gave us nothing. Told us if we came to the factory they would have the army shoot us since the government owns a piece.

No one would have bought the product unless we were able to get pricing at Chinese levels and at the quality that took 3 years of work to obtain.

Our Korean contract manufacturer knocked us off on another project that was a mainstream product but we crushed their distribution and they tanked. There was enough profit to build it in the US and we did.

Sadly we have the patent on something that many companies are still knocking off and if the main owner with 55% went nuts and was legally incompetent before he died, and then his sole heir his ex wife died. Another owner with 15% wanted to distance himself from adult as he is a high profile Corp lawyer, and my last 15% partner is so lazy he won't do shit, my 15% would be worth a fortune as millions a dollars a year in sales are being wracked up and I haven't seen a cent on 6 years.

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Wow, total pownage!
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It's a huge mistake to fall for China's "low cost" sales pitch.
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Ummm. The innovation comes from outside china because they can not create anything. All they can do is copy.
Maybe that was true 10 years ago but based on the objective evidence of patent filings, the Chinese are getting more and more creative http://www.shandp.com/news_03.asp?news_id=145

Regardless, what happened with Fellowes might be more of an isolated incident because he chose scumbags for partners.
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