'US missiles' hit Pakistan school

[IllTestYourGirls]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7685593.stm

[marketsmart]

maybe they will learn their lesson... don't harbor terrorists...

1000's of children die each day in africa and no one gives a fuck about them...

[Fletch XXX]

"At least two missiles, reportedly fired by pilotless US drones, hit the school early on Thursday."

And done without human error, or concern for deaths of children.

[StuartD]

It's fine because American's are focused on the election. Why? Because the media has decide that it is the real story. Not some dead kids a world away.

[DaddyHalbucks]

Put the blame where it belongs: on cowardly terrorists who take civilian hostages and endanger civilians with their presence.

[kowalsky]

"ups I did it again!"

[buzzy]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Put the blame where it belongs: on cowardly terrorists who take civilian hostages and endanger civilians with their presence.

Seems like your just trying to shift the blame onto someone else, mabye it would pass in 3rd grade but not when you bomb a fucking school.

And it's nice to see good ol America is doing its best to make friends.

[stev0]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Put the blame where it belongs: on cowardly terrorists who take civilian hostages and endanger civilians with their presence.

No, put the blame on the retard that gathered the wrong intelligence and decided to bomb a school. Blaming terrorists for US missiles hitting a school? Give me a fucking break

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Put the blame where it belongs: on cowardly terrorists who take civilian hostages and endanger civilians with their presence.

Yup, BradM must be right... there's no way any human could be as stupid as you. It has to be an act just to get a reaction out of people.

[directfiesta]

Using drones controlled from a game-arcade like control station in the USA desert ....

Really brave

[DWB]

Good for them. They need to kill more children and civilians.

Then some day, like 9-11, the USA will have it's ass handed to itself on a Muslim platter. Of course then everyone will be outraged and won't be able to understand why the USA was just attacked. Rather than the American gov tell the truth that they have been murdering women and children for years overseas, they will blow more smoke up your ass and take away whatever freedom you do have left at that point.

[fusionx]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

"At least two missiles, reportedly fired by pilotless US drones, hit the school early on Thursday."

And done without human error, or concern for deaths of children.

Children? Where did you get that?

It's a religious school run by a cleric with ties to known terrorists.. it's a madras.

This ain't a kindergarten

[buzzy]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Good for them. They need to kill more children and civilians.

Then some day, like 9-11, the USA will have it's ass handed to itself on a Muslim platter. Of course then everyone will be outraged and won't be able to understand why the USA was just attacked. Rather than the American gov tell the truth that they have been murdering women and children for years overseas, they will blow more smoke up your ass and take away whatever freedom you do have left at that point.

So true.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Uhmm it does not say kids, nor children. It says "Students" and it was a "religeous school".

[WhiplashDug]

Strange, that it said 'suspected' but yet its perceived as fact.

Additionally, those drones are not little model airplanes. Some have 50 - 80 foot wingspans and can carry 2200lbs of payload. That said, after seeing that video where a mud-brick - thatch roofed building was proportedly hit by TWO (2) missiles from a US Drone... but strangely enough, only one small section of the wall was knocked down. Strange...

Not saying it isn't true.. but not saying it is. Just looking for more info...

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Yeah school's made of mud and thatch are exactly what Pakistani's need.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Good for them. They need to kill more children and civilians.

Then some day, like 9-11, the USA will have it's ass handed to itself on a Muslim platter. Of course then everyone will be outraged and won't be able to understand why the USA was just attacked. Rather than the American gov tell the truth that they have been murdering women and children for years overseas, they will blow more smoke up your ass and take away whatever freedom you do have left at that point.

Well said. Totally concur.

[just a punk]

BTW, some people just forgot that the USA have only 2 relatively friendly countries that allow them to continue their epic "search for Osama" adventure in Afghanistan. These countries are Pakistan and Russia. If NATO will lose the possibility to use Pakistani and Russian railway, the Afghan operation will be over.

[psili]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7685593.stm

I got lost at

At least six people were injured in the attack, witnesses say. It is still not clear whether there were any foreign fighters among the dead students or whether it is linked to Mr Haqqani or his son, Sirajuddin.

[Vick!]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Put the blame where it belongs: on cowardly terrorists who take civilian hostages and endanger civilians with their presence.

If some day a fucking terrorist makes your 4 years old daughter and 2 years old son hostage and security forces bomb your house killing both of them along with the terrorist.

Would it be OK?

PS. Now I know, why so much hate for US in outer world. It has people like you, even if only 5%, its still a lot. One bad fish spoils the pond.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by psili

I got lost at

6 injured and untold number dead. You hear that in news reports all the time. "Plane crashes 6 injured X dead"

[psili]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

6 injured and untold number dead. You hear that in news reports all the time. "Plane crashes 6 injured X dead"

Face it. The article and video suck in regard to certain facts, just like your posts, you sensationalist bastard. :-)
And at the end of the video, is that the butt of a rifle next to those sandles?

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by psili

Face it. The article and video suck in regard to certain facts, just like your posts, you sensationalist bastard. :-)
And at the end of the video, is that the butt of a rifle next to those sandles?

I agree the BBC is not known for the integrity or great news reporting.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Good for them. They need to kill more children and civilians.

Then some day, like 9-11, the USA will have it's ass handed to itself on a Muslim platter. Of course then everyone will be outraged and won't be able to understand why the USA was just attacked. Rather than the American gov tell the truth that they have been murdering women and children for years overseas, they will blow more smoke up your ass and take away whatever freedom you do have left at that point.

You mean "the terrorists" didn't attack the WTC because they hate freedom?

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Put the blame where it belongs: on cowardly terrorists who take civilian hostages and endanger civilians with their presence.

Fuckign retard #1

[WhiplashDug]

News stories now report that leaks from intel sources say the attack was carried out based on local intel from informants - and that NO STUDENTS were in the school at the time.

[WhiplashDug]

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MIRANSHAH, Pakistan (AFP) — Suspected US spy drones fired missiles early Thursday into a school set up by a top Taliban commander in a tribal area bordering Afghanistan, killing 11 people, security officials said.

The air strike apparently targeting veteran militant Jalaluddin Haqqani, a major target for US forces, was the latest in a string of attacks on Pakistani soil that have raised tensions between Islamabad and Washington.
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Security officials said that the madrassa, or religious school, near Miranshah, the main town in troubled North Waziristan region, was set up by Haqqani during the 1980s "jihad" against Soviet forces in Afghanistan.

It was currently run by one of Haqqani's own commanders, Mullah Mansoor, and was recently used as a guest house for "international and local students traveling from other areas".

"At 2:25 am, two spy drones fired three missiles at the madrassa of Mullah Mansoor. Eleven people have been killed in the missile strike," a security official told AFP.
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Doesn't seem to me that class would be in session at 2:25am

This from the AFP, see it: http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5...QuLYxzuXhYQsww

[buzzy]

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

BTW, some people just forgot that the USA have only 2 relatively friendly countries that allow them to continue their epic "search for Osama" adventure in Afghanistan. These countries are Pakistan and Russia. If NATO will lose the possibility to use Pakistani and Russian railway, the Afghan operation will be over.

Haven't seen you around for a bit, welcome back.

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

maybe they will learn their lesson... don't harbor terrorists...

1000's of children die each day in africa and no one gives a fuck about them...

Africa is a continent. I'm guessing that probably alot of children die everyday on most other continents as well.

[[ScreaM]]

Well done America.

[iseeyou]

It is always acceptable to kill innocent people as long as you are trying to kill bad people. It is ok to drop bombs or shoot missles as long as there is at least one bad guy there. It is ok to shoot through an innocent person as long as the bullet eventually hits a bad person.

The terrorists are to blame because they refuse to stand and wait out in open fields or vacant lots or terrorist training camps. If innocent civialians don't want to be killed, they should know better than to allow a terrorist to be in the same building. If innocent children don't want to be killed, they should have known better than to be born into a "terrorist" or islamic nation.

The american military is forced to attack innocent civilians because terrorists choose to visit markets and restaurants and banks and schools and public buildings and use public roads and walk in public places. Terrorists should only live in isolated areas where only terrorists live.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Then some day, like 9-11, the USA will have it's ass handed to itself on a Muslim platter. Of course then everyone will be outraged and won't be able to understand why the USA was just attacked. Rather than the American gov tell the truth that they have been murdering women and children for years overseas, they will blow more smoke up your ass and take away whatever freedom you do have left at that point.

[ADL Colin]

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

BTW, some people just forgot that the USA have only 2 relatively friendly countries that allow them to continue their epic "search for Osama" adventure in Afghanistan. These countries are Pakistan and Russia. If NATO will lose the possibility to use Pakistani and Russian railway, the Afghan operation will be over.

errrr .. i think we gave up

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

You mean "the terrorists" didn't attack the WTC because they hate freedom?

No silly. They did it because they are evil...

[DWB]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

You mean "the terrorists" didn't attack the WTC because they hate freedom?

"They hate us for our freedom."

I can't believe the president of the United States would say that to the people and the people are dumb enough to believe it.

They hate us for many reasons but "freedom" is not one of them.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by iseeyou

It is always acceptable to kill innocent people as long as you are trying to kill bad people. It is ok to drop bombs or shoot missles as long as there is at least one bad guy there. It is ok to shoot through an innocent person as long as the bullet eventually hits a bad person.

The terrorists are to blame because they refuse to stand and wait out in open fields or vacant lots or terrorist training camps. If innocent civialians don't want to be killed, they should know better than to allow a terrorist to be in the same building. If innocent children don't want to be killed, they should have known better than to be born into a "terrorist" or islamic nation.

The american military is forced to attack innocent civilians because terrorists choose to visit markets and restaurants and banks and schools and public buildings and use public roads and walk in public places. Terrorists should only live in isolated areas where only terrorists live.

"Collateral Damage" they call it. And the US Gov will kill 1000 innocent people in an attempt to kill 1 terrorist.

So you tell me who the real terrorists are... The guys who sit in mud huts and shitty little houses somewhere and plan attacks on people or the guys who commit mass murder of innocent civilians in the process of trying to kill the few guys sitting around in the mud huts and shitty little houses. Yea, the "terrorists" may actually act from time to time and kill a few people here or there but their numbers are NEVER anywhere close to the numbers the USA kills in attempt to kill those they consider a threat.

You can not win a war against "terror" as there is no face to it. The western world can not beat "terrorism' any more than he Muslim extremists can beat "freedom." It's all fucking insane. Though I will tell you this, and we should have learned our lesson from Vietnam and that is you can not win against a people that have nothing to lose and are willing to die for their cause. To up it a notch, we now fight an enemy who is glorified if they die killing infidels.

[Rorschach]

doesn't everyone want the diebold and fox news model of democracy?

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by WhiplashDug

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MIRANSHAH, Pakistan (AFP) ? Suspected US spy drones fired missiles early Thursday into a school set up by a top Taliban commander in a tribal area bordering Afghanistan, killing 11 people, security officials said.

The air strike apparently targeting veteran militant Jalaluddin Haqqani, a major target for US forces, was the latest in a string of attacks on Pakistani soil that have raised tensions between Islamabad and Washington.
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Security officials said that the madrassa, or religious school, near Miranshah, the main town in troubled North Waziristan region, was set up by Haqqani during the 1980s "jihad" against Soviet forces in Afghanistan.

Why " Suspected US spy drones " ???? Any other nations using drones in that air space to bomb ? Or do those " security officials " ( who are they btw ? ) think that a huge pidgeon let go a wmd shit ????

By the way, that so-called terrorist pedigree :

Here are some facts about Haqqani.

-- A gaunt, ethnic Pashtun man with a long beard and, in the few photographs of him, always seen wearing a large turban, Haqqani is in his 70s. He won recognition as a rugged commander during the Afghan jihad, or holy war, against Soviet occupiers in the 1980s.

-- Haqqani's speciality was cave fighting in Afghanistan's inhospitable mountain ranges near the Pakistani border. He commanded mujahideen, or holy warriors, in the eastern Khost region from a nearly unassailable base in caves that later became a training ground for Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network.

-- Haqqani had close links with U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and Pakistani intelligence services, notably the military's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), during the war against the Soviets.

He fought the occupiers then, why wouldn't he fight them now ???

[buzzy]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

"Collateral Damage" they call it. And the US Gov will kill 1000 innocent people in an attempt to kill 1 terrorist.

So you tell me who the real terrorists are... The guys who sit in mud huts and shitty little houses somewhere and plan attacks on people or the guys who commit mass murder of innocent civilians in the process of trying to kill the few guys sitting around in the mud huts and shitty little houses. Yea, the "terrorists" may actually act from time to time and kill a few people here or there but their numbers are NEVER anywhere close to the numbers the USA kills in attempt to kill those they consider a threat.

You can not win a war against "terror" as there is no face to it. The western world can not beat "terrorism' any more than he Muslim extremists can beat "freedom." It's all fucking insane. Though I will tell you this, and we should have learned our lesson from Vietnam and that is you can not win against a people that have nothing to lose and are willing to die for their cause. To up it a notch, we now fight an enemy who is glorified if they die killing infidels.

The most powerful tool to stop people attacking you, is to stop giving them a reason to, leave them alone and they will leave us alone.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by buzzy

The most powerful tool to stop people attacking you, is to stop giving them a reason to, leave them alone and they will leave us alone.

I don't know if leaving them alone is a good idea, but stirring up a hornet's nest is what they're doing now. Just fucking asking for it.

[WhiplashDug]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Why " Suspected US spy drones " ???? Any other nations using drones in that air space to bomb ? Or do those " security officials " ( who are they btw ? ) think that a huge pidgeon let go a wmd shit ????

Perhaps that question is better suited to the author - I linked the story from the AFP. That wasn't personal opinion.. just passing on information.

But, there may be more to the story... The US is perhaps on the surface acting on its own, but at the same time the Pakistani gov. is conducting the "Bajour Offensive" in the region having killed more than 1,000 insurgents to include 25 in a mission that began Wednesday.

So, ultimately there is more to the 'whole' story than you or I or anyone here is privy to or would completely understand.

[iseeyou]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

You can not win a war against "terror" as there is no face to it. The western world can not beat "terrorism' any more than he Muslim extremists can beat "freedom." It's all fucking insane. Though I will tell you this, and we should have learned our lesson from Vietnam and that is you can not win against a people that have nothing to lose and are willing to die for their cause. To up it a notch, we now fight an enemy who is glorified if they die killing infidels.

Your liberal commie ass is wrong. The american military is liberating the people of Pakistan from the terrorists. If innocent children die during liberation, it is only the fault of terrorists who chose to live in cities and visit public places instead of living in caves and open fields.

If some innocent people are killed, then that's a shame but at least Americans are doing something, unlike pussy euro trash who refuse to kill babies hiding in front of terrorists. If we have to kill 10 kids to take out a terrorist then that is what it takes to get the job done. Americans can not help it if a terrorist visits a public place such as a school. If the school kids don't want to be killed, they should have run out as soon as the terrorist entered the building. And if the terrorist was not in the building at the time of the attack, then so fucking what? At least americans are trying to kill terrorists and baby terrorists too.

The Pakistani people should be thankful that America does not carpet bomb Pakistan with nuclear weapons in order to kill the remaining civilians who are harbouring terrorists. America has done a great service to Pakistan by allowing Pakistan to exist instead of turning it into a glass desert.

[buzzy]

Originally Posted by iseeyou

Your liberal commie ass is wrong. The american military is liberating the people of Pakistan from the terrorists. If innocent children die during liberation, it is only the fault of terrorists who chose to live in cities and visit public places instead of living in caves and open fields.

If some innocent people are killed, then that's a shame but at least Americans are doing something, unlike pussy euro trash who refuse to kill babies hiding in front of terrorists. If we have to kill 10 kids to take out a terrorist then that is what it takes to get the job done. Americans can not help it if a terrorist visits a public place such as a school. If the school kids don't want to be killed, they should have run out as soon as the terrorist entered the building. And if the terrorist was not in the building at the time of the attack, then so fucking what? At least americans are trying to kill terrorists and baby terrorists too.

The Pakistani people should be thankful that America does not carpet bomb Pakistan with nuclear weapons in order to kill the remaining civilians who are harbouring terrorists. America has done a great service to Pakistan by allowing Pakistan to exist instead of turning it into a glass desert.

I honestly can't tell if you are being sarcastic or serious.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by iseeyou

Your liberal commie ass is wrong. The american military is liberating the people of Pakistan from the terrorists. If innocent children die during liberation, it is only the fault of terrorists who chose to live in cities and visit public places instead of living in caves and open fields.

If some innocent people are killed, then that's a shame but at least Americans are doing something, unlike pussy euro trash who refuse to kill babies hiding in front of terrorists. If we have to kill 10 kids to take out a terrorist then that is what it takes to get the job done. Americans can not help it if a terrorist visits a public place such as a school. If the school kids don't want to be killed, they should have run out as soon as the terrorist entered the building. And if the terrorist was not in the building at the time of the attack, then so fucking what? At least americans are trying to kill terrorists and baby terrorists too.

The Pakistani people should be thankful that America does not carpet bomb Pakistan with nuclear weapons in order to kill the remaining civilians who are harbouring terrorists. America has done a great service to Pakistan by allowing Pakistan to exist instead of turning it into a glass desert.

nice reverse psychology post

[aico]

Originally Posted by buzzy

The most powerful tool to stop people attacking you, is to stop giving them a reason to, leave them alone and they will leave us alone.

Ya I can just see it now: "Ok we've stopped, so leave us alone, oh and forget all that other shit we've done to you over the last 100 years or so, cuz we've stopped now."

[iseeyou]

Originally Posted by aico

Ya I can just see it now: "Ok we've stopped, so leave us alone, oh and forget all that other shit we've done to you over the last 100 years or so, cuz we've stopped now."

A truly sincere apology "goes a long way". On the other hand, an insincere apology or no apology is not appreciated and possibly despised. The American people are ready to accept apologies from the people of Pakistan if Pakistanis can swallow their pride and stop blaming America for everything wrong with their country.

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by fusionx

It's a religious school run by a cleric with ties to known terrorists.. it's a madras.
This ain't a kindergarten

Would we as a nation get upset if Pakistan blew up a Christian college in the US? What if the Dean had known ties to Peta?

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Yeah school's made of mud and thatch are exactly what Pakistani's need.

What the fuck does it matter what the school was made of? Again we do not need exactly need any schools that contain asbestos or made from bricks near a earthquake fault in our country either - Are those too fair game for our enemies?

I do feel that there is more than likely much, much more to this story. I also have zero fucking problems with us using drones or having a joystick military. I actually applaud any technology that can keep us in the battle without placing our men and women at risk. That has been one of the many goals of warfare since the first guy in a rock fight learned to throw it at his opponent when the other was expecting it to be used as a club in hand to hand combat.
In the event of fuck ups or blowing the crap out of something that did not need to be fucked up at that very instance because waiting for the target would put others at immediate risk. When we and the world know damn well we can pick off an individual target nearly anywhere without collateral damage. We very well should be held responsible and very much so whoever gave the orders and green lighted it.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by iseeyou

Your liberal commie ass is wrong. The american military is liberating the people of Pakistan from the terrorists. If innocent children die during liberation, it is only the fault of terrorists who chose to live in cities and visit public places instead of living in caves and open fields.

If some innocent people are killed, then that's a shame but at least Americans are doing something, unlike pussy euro trash who refuse to kill babies hiding in front of terrorists. If we have to kill 10 kids to take out a terrorist then that is what it takes to get the job done. Americans can not help it if a terrorist visits a public place such as a school. If the school kids don't want to be killed, they should have run out as soon as the terrorist entered the building. And if the terrorist was not in the building at the time of the attack, then so fucking what? At least americans are trying to kill terrorists and baby terrorists too.

The Pakistani people should be thankful that America does not carpet bomb Pakistan with nuclear weapons in order to kill the remaining civilians who are harbouring terrorists. America has done a great service to Pakistan by allowing Pakistan to exist instead of turning it into a glass desert.

I can't tell if you are serious or not, but if you are... wow. That is EXACTLY the mindset that got the USA in the shit bed they are in right now.

So what would happen if say China or Russia decided tomorrow to "liberate" the people of the United States from their evil, mass murdering leader? They would kill 10s of 1000s in the process of innocent people while trying to take out our leaders and National Guard. Is that ok?

[marketsmart]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I can't tell if you are serious or not, but if you are... wow. That is EXACTLY the mindset that got the USA in the shit bed they are in right now.

So what would happen if say China or Russia decided tomorrow to "liberate" the people of the United States from their evil, mass murdering leader? They would kill 10s of 1000s in the process of innocent people while trying to take out our leaders and National Guard. Is that ok?

can we get back to talking about tranny creampies please...

[Socks]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

Put the blame where it belongs: on cowardly terrorists who take civilian hostages and endanger civilians with their presence.

Someone needs to beat you the fuck up Hal.