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Old 04-19-2011, 07:13 AM   #1
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Mailing List little help.

I have some few opt-email campaign right now just 5k of fresh emails that I collected when I was working in a mainstraim site in clickbank I wanted to ask what server has set their limit to 5k a day? I used phplist but all of the emails went through spam folder.
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Old 04-19-2011, 07:18 AM   #2
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I don't understand your question?

"what server has set their limit to 5k a day"

?

if you are having problems with phplist deliverability, there are literally a gajamillion things that could be.

Here is a check list:

Mail Server Internet Deployment Checklist

Before deploying your new mail server on the internet, make sure you have checked the list below. This will ensure that your mail server will have a good sending reputation (trusted) and will not be ignored and treated as a spammer.
Your IP addresses are not blacklisted

Even a newly setup mail server could already be blacklisted. Some of the reasons are:

For those using a dedicated server, the IP address given to you might have been used by a spammer in the past
For those using a shared server, a fellow user might have sent a spam mail.
For those using NAT to share internet connection, one of your users might have sent a spam mail due to virus infection

To check if your IP address is blacklisted, use
http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx
Your mail server has an MX record

An MX record or Mail exchanger record is a type of record in the Domain Name System (DNS) specifying how Internet e-mail should be routed using the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP). Contact your DNS provider to add an MX record for your new mail server. To check if your mail server has an MX record, use http://www.dnscolos.com.
Your mail server greeting matches your hostname

To test your mail server greeting, use http://www.dnscolos.com. If your mail server has multiple IP addresses, see Postfix Multiple IP Addresses Individual SMTP Greeting for a guide on how to fix this issue.
Your mail server is not open relay

An open relay mail server allows anyone to send mail outside your network. This means any Tom, Dick and Harry can use your mail server to send spam. To perform an open relay test, use http://www.dnscolos.com. If it fails, double check your Postfix Dovecot SASL configuration.
Your mail server has a reverse DNS

A reverse DNS returns the hostname given the IP address. Most mail servers will check if you have a valid reverse DNS, otherwise your sending reputation will be downgraded. Contact your internet service provider to add reverse DNS entries for your mail server IP addresses. To check if your mail server has a reverse DNS, use http://www.dnscolos.com.
Create a SPF DNS record if possible

Sender Policy Framework (SPF) allows software to identify messages that are or are not authorized to use the domain name based on information published in a sender policy of the domain owner. Not all DNS provider supports SPF so choosing a DNS provider that can do this is a plus. To check if your mail server has an SPF record, use http://www.dnscolos.com.

Visit the forum to ask for help or to give a comment.

More here
http://www.linuxmail.info/mail-server-checklist/

and here

http://www.programmersheaven.com/2/Webmaster_Email
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i use webair for a list of about 4000 using phplist and hit the inbox
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I don't understand your question?

"what server has set their limit to 5k a day"

?

if you are having problems with phplist deliverability, there are literally a gajamillion things that could be.

Here is a check list:

Mail Server Internet Deployment Checklist

Before deploying your new mail server on the internet, make sure you have checked the list below. This will ensure that your mail server will have a good sending reputation (trusted) and will not be ignored and treated as a spammer.
Your IP addresses are not blacklisted

Even a newly setup mail server could already be blacklisted. Some of the reasons are:

For those using a dedicated server, the IP address given to you might have been used by a spammer in the past
For those using a shared server, a fellow user might have sent a spam mail.
For those using NAT to share internet connection, one of your users might have sent a spam mail due to virus infection

To check if your IP address is blacklisted, use
http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx
Your mail server has an MX record

An MX record or Mail exchanger record is a type of record in the Domain Name System (DNS) specifying how Internet e-mail should be routed using the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP). Contact your DNS provider to add an MX record for your new mail server. To check if your mail server has an MX record, use http://www.dnscolos.com.
Your mail server greeting matches your hostname

To test your mail server greeting, use http://www.dnscolos.com. If your mail server has multiple IP addresses, see Postfix Multiple IP Addresses Individual SMTP Greeting for a guide on how to fix this issue.
Your mail server is not open relay

An open relay mail server allows anyone to send mail outside your network. This means any Tom, Dick and Harry can use your mail server to send spam. To perform an open relay test, use http://www.dnscolos.com. If it fails, double check your Postfix Dovecot SASL configuration.
Your mail server has a reverse DNS

A reverse DNS returns the hostname given the IP address. Most mail servers will check if you have a valid reverse DNS, otherwise your sending reputation will be downgraded. Contact your internet service provider to add reverse DNS entries for your mail server IP addresses. To check if your mail server has a reverse DNS, use http://www.dnscolos.com.
Create a SPF DNS record if possible

Sender Policy Framework (SPF) allows software to identify messages that are or are not authorized to use the domain name based on information published in a sender policy of the domain owner. Not all DNS provider supports SPF so choosing a DNS provider that can do this is a plus. To check if your mail server has an SPF record, use http://www.dnscolos.com.

Visit the forum to ask for help or to give a comment.

More here
http://www.linuxmail.info/mail-server-checklist/

and here

http://www.programmersheaven.com/2/Webmaster_Email
While this is a lot of gibberish, it's spot on.

When it comes to email, and your campaign, there are a lot of things that go into the mix. If you are simply doing a few hundred of your members on a pay site that's fine. But if you are doing a full blown campaign, maximizing your email lists you've picked up over the years... that can be an entirely different ball game.

If these are all of your double opt-in, can-spam compliant lists from a decade on the internet you are looking to monetize with offers, emailing them daily in bulk, that is going to be a completely different proposition. You may want to consider white listing when possible or using an ESP.

While expensive at times, they typically will take a good can-spam compliant list and increasing your chances of getting inboxed. If you plan to do things on your own, that's fine as well. There are plenty of platforms available. However, the variables will change and you'll need to be mindful of IP reputation, sender scores, and so on.

Good luck sire.
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If these are all of your double opt-in, can-spam compliant lists from a decade on the internet you are looking to monetize with offers, emailing them daily in bulk, that is going to be a completely different proposition. You may want to consider white listing when possible or using an ESP.
Are there any ESP's who will accept mail lists of members/ex-members to adult paysites?

And how does an ESP know a list is truly double opt-in can spam compliant?
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Are there any ESP's who will accept mail lists of members/ex-members to adult paysites?
The costs and their policies will vary. Some do not care what you are mailing, as long as it is in compliance. Others will not allow porn. So when you are shopping around for price, based on the number of emails you have. You will want to ask them the porn question.

Keep in mind, just because you have porn emails, does not mean you need to mail them porn offers. There are endless ad networks over in mainstream you can put your lists to good use on.

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And how does an ESP know a list is truly double opt-in can spam compliant?
Simple. If you are double opt-in, your complaints should be either fairly low and under the ESP's threshold of tolerance. This can always vary by ESP. If you're in compliance, you can/should be able to show the trail of where and how that person signed up. The website, date, and so on. I would still scrub the data if I were you all the same to clear out old emails and traps though. The cost on that will vary, but IW is once of the best IMHO.
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Are there any ESP's who will accept mail lists of members/ex-members to adult paysites?
Lyris, but I don't care for them
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And how does an ESP know a list is truly double opt-in can spam compliant?
They don't. You sign a contract saying your list is that, and then if there are repercussions, then could sue I guess.
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I don't understand your question?

"what server has set their limit to 5k a day"

?

if you are having problems with phplist deliverability, there are literally a gajamillion things that could be.

Here is a check list:

Mail Server Internet Deployment Checklist

Before deploying your new mail server on the internet, make sure you have checked the list below. This will ensure that your mail server will have a good sending reputation (trusted) and will not be ignored and treated as a spammer.
Your IP addresses are not blacklisted

Even a newly setup mail server could already be blacklisted. Some of the reasons are:

For those using a dedicated server, the IP address given to you might have been used by a spammer in the past
For those using a shared server, a fellow user might have sent a spam mail.
For those using NAT to share internet connection, one of your users might have sent a spam mail due to virus infection

To check if your IP address is blacklisted, use
http://www.mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx
Your mail server has an MX record

An MX record or Mail exchanger record is a type of record in the Domain Name System (DNS) specifying how Internet e-mail should be routed using the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP). Contact your DNS provider to add an MX record for your new mail server. To check if your mail server has an MX record, use http://www.dnscolos.com.
Your mail server greeting matches your hostname

To test your mail server greeting, use http://www.dnscolos.com. If your mail server has multiple IP addresses, see Postfix Multiple IP Addresses Individual SMTP Greeting for a guide on how to fix this issue.
Your mail server is not open relay

An open relay mail server allows anyone to send mail outside your network. This means any Tom, Dick and Harry can use your mail server to send spam. To perform an open relay test, use http://www.dnscolos.com. If it fails, double check your Postfix Dovecot SASL configuration.
Your mail server has a reverse DNS

A reverse DNS returns the hostname given the IP address. Most mail servers will check if you have a valid reverse DNS, otherwise your sending reputation will be downgraded. Contact your internet service provider to add reverse DNS entries for your mail server IP addresses. To check if your mail server has a reverse DNS, use http://www.dnscolos.com.
Create a SPF DNS record if possible

Sender Policy Framework (SPF) allows software to identify messages that are or are not authorized to use the domain name based on information published in a sender policy of the domain owner. Not all DNS provider supports SPF so choosing a DNS provider that can do this is a plus. To check if your mail server has an SPF record, use http://www.dnscolos.com.

Visit the forum to ask for help or to give a comment.

More here
http://www.linuxmail.info/mail-server-checklist/

and here

http://www.programmersheaven.com/2/Webmaster_Email

I check everything in my server domain and server Ip everything is fine not blacklisted all status are OK just need a server for now which is not giving me a hard time to send 500 each hour only

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Can you explain why, with a list of 5,000 you feel the need to mail more than 500 an hour? And the timing of the mailing is done in phplist. I've not heard of a hosting company limiting you like this...who is it?

Also, if velocity is your aim:

http://www.volomp.com/
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Also, if velocity is your aim:

http://www.volomp.com/
VOLO's support sucks. Deliverability Agent is better IMHO. However, most people mailing to their membership lists or whatever will not need something that high powered.
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Can you explain why, with a list of 5,000 you feel the need to mail more than 500 an hour? And the timing of the mailing is done in phplist. I've not heard of a hosting company limiting you like this...who is it?

Also, if velocity is your aim:

http://www.volomp.com/
hostgator limit my outgoing emails. what hosting company can let me send more than 500 an hour anyway?
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what hosting company can let me send more than 500 an hour anyway?
Most web hosting companies do not throttle this.

Although some will make you sign a form in regards to opening up port 25. It really varies from host to host on their policies. I would simply shop around more as it sounds like you need a better host for your current need.
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YNOTMail was made specifically for the adult market. If you want to demo it, hit me up

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Most web hosting companies do not throttle this.

Although some will make you sign a form in regards to opening up port 25. It really varies from host to host on their policies. I would simply shop around more as it sounds like you need a better host for your current need.
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5K is sure a lot of emails. It's not spam if you send the emails one by one. It could be considered as spam if you send all the emails at the same time. Good luck.
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