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lagcam · 04-19-2011, 09:35 PM

I have never posted how great my cam site converts but I do believe that it converts pretty well, simply because we provide very good value for money.

It is not a whitelabel, it is a fully functioning site, standalone site, 100% owned and managed by me.

I am actually presently thinking over an offer to sell my site and such a test could help me or completely fuck me, but if my site is not too small for your requirements for your test (around 50 online 24/7) I would be prepared to take that risk and put it forward.

We do not normally use external affiliates, but we have a good inbuilt affiliate program that we use for tracking sales from our own network of domains that would provide very adequate tracking, and you could have access to that for verification.

Mamassita · 04-19-2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MyCamProfile

You will get paid for agent recruits, webcam model recruits, and i-frame affiliate PPS joins. There is also a bonus for the rest of this, and next month of $50 per sign-up of each model that works 5 hours. So definitely some money to be made

And how your scam convert ??

2MuchMark · 04-19-2011, 10:05 PM

Hi Choker,

I'm a little surprised at your attitude. Why would you call anyone a shithead for calling anything unfair?

Don't get me wrong - your idea could be good, but in my opinion you have left our a few important parameters to your offer. In particular, you left out (or I didn't notice) the keywords you will use, the sources of the traffic, the quality of the traffic (Are these hits from qualified customers? If so how do you define qualified?) What about Geo traffic? Language perhaps?

Another important parameter is time. Customers to a chat site would never spend money on the very first visit (and if they did we might consider it fraud). We have found that on average it takes people about 15 or so log-ins before finally committing to making a purchase. How much time are you allowing for sites to convert your traffic?

Next, exactly what are you looking for as far as a commission goes? What percentage? PPS or Rev Share?

A few months ago we gave up on our own affiliate program simply because affiliate costs (Commissions + Support) could not compete with carefully selected pay per click traffic. PPC is easy to manage, and works incredibly well for us, and is much cheaper than any affiliate program.

You and I have done business before but the traffic ==> content matchup didn't seem to work out well for us because we didn't see a noticeable increase in sales. However, I think your offer is really interesting and I would like to take you up on it, but with a couple of requests.

Would you be willing to:

- Provide quality, targeted, North American, qualified traffic
- Limit the clicks to about 2500 per day (giving initial visitors time to sign up)
- Do this for NO COMMISSION?

In place of a commission, I would be willing to agree to purchase 1.5 Million clicks worth of PPC traffic from you over 3 months as long as it was the same filtered traffic described above as long as a percentage of the traffic you sent "converted" (ie, was a good match up for our content).

What percentage of conversion would you think would be fair for this test?

lagcam · 04-19-2011, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Another important parameter is time. Customers to a chat site would never spend money on the very first visit (and if they did we might consider it fraud). We have found that on average it takes people about 15 or so log-ins before finally committing to making a purchase. How much time are you allowing for sites to convert your traffic?

This is actually nonsense Mark.

KillerK · 04-19-2011, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Hi Choker,

I'm a little surprised at your attitude. Why would you call anyone a shithead for calling anything unfair?

Don't get me wrong - your idea could be good, but in my opinion you have left our a few important parameters to your offer. In particular, you left out (or I didn't notice) the keywords you will use, the sources of the traffic, the quality of the traffic (Are these hits from qualified customers? If so how do you define qualified?) What about Geo traffic? Language perhaps?

Another important parameter is time. Customers to a chat site would never spend money on the very first visit (and if they did we might consider it fraud). We have found that on average it takes people about 15 or so log-ins before finally committing to making a purchase. How much time are you allowing for sites to convert your traffic?

Next, exactly what are you looking for as far as a commission goes? What percentage? PPS or Rev Share?

A few months ago we gave up on our own affiliate program simply because affiliate costs (Commissions + Support) could not compete with carefully selected pay per click traffic. PPC is easy to manage, and works incredibly well for us, and is much cheaper than any affiliate program.

You and I have done business before but the traffic ==> content matchup didn't seem to work out well for us because we didn't see a noticeable increase in sales. However, I think your offer is really interesting and I would like to take you up on it, but with a couple of requests.

Would you be willing to:

- Provide quality, targeted, North American, qualified traffic
- Limit the clicks to about 2500 per day (giving initial visitors time to sign up)
- Do this for NO COMMISSION?

In place of a commission, I would be willing to agree to purchase 1.5 Million clicks worth of PPC traffic from you over 3 months as long as it was the same filtered traffic described above as long as a percentage of the traffic you sent "converted" (ie, was a good match up for our content).

What percentage of conversion would you think would be fair for this test?

So, really you are saying, you had no affiliates worth a shit because you don't convert well. Otherwise affiliates would bring you a shitton of sales.

Also, the biggest affiliates do not need support. We know everything.

Jack Sparrow · 04-19-2011, 11:46 PM

2 things:

1. Why would you need to ask someone to do a test? Just do the freaking test already and pick some out.

2. Who says its the camsites, and not your crappy traffic. Would you be willing to post YOUR stats after i buy 100k and send them to 5 paysites YOU tell me to send to and compare them with 5 other brokers?

If so, let me know, and lets get this show on the road. If not, you are just as bad.

Serious question choker, would you be willing to take that on? No troll, seriously.

BoardiesBitch · 04-20-2011, 12:32 AM

how long are you going to wait before posting the results ?

Because obviously PPS and revshare will not produce the same amount.
Those revshared clients will keep on spending and will keep on making you money...

BoardiesBitch · 04-20-2011, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

for a limited test, over short period of time... it should be PPS.

If Site C gets lucky and gets a whale who spends 20K (likely would have spent 20K on any of the top 5 cam sites since they all would have quality girls and decent system) then it would look like one site was 1000x times better than the rest, when it was just pure luck of the draw. You can't skew the stats with PPS.

yes but the whole point of working revshare for an affiliate is PRECISELY your example

Aron-NL · 04-20-2011, 12:40 AM

We are willing to participate in your test and looking forward to see the results. You may choose PPS or revshare, it's up to you. Our site www.needlive.com has been around for about 5 years now and we were buying traffic frequently from chokertraffic in the beginning. We did not buy in the recent months but if the traffic turns out to be good, we will consider running campaigns again.

cam_girls · 04-20-2011, 01:16 AM

damn! Last time I bought 100,000 hits I made $20K extra over the next few months... but rules are rules... no white labels!

cooldude7 · 04-20-2011, 01:33 AM

u r the man choker,
keep us updated,
good luck.

cooldude7 · 04-20-2011, 01:34 AM

u r the man choker,
keep us updated,
good luck.

AdultKing · 04-20-2011, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cam_girls

damn! Last time I bought 100,000 hits I made $20K extra over the next few months... but rules are rules... no white labels!

save that cash, you'll need it for lawyers

Emil · 04-20-2011, 02:49 AM

Nice one Choker

Paul Markham · 04-20-2011, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

why would they risk their rep on what might be garbage traffic? seems like a lose-lose.

If traffic sellers content were worth anything they wouldn't be selling it at 1,000s of clicks for a $.

They would of always sent it to paysites, filtering it first themselves.

rowan · 04-20-2011, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

If traffic sellers content were worth anything they wouldn't be selling it at 1,000s of clicks for a $.

They would of always sent it to paysites, filtering it first themselves.

*yawn* tired old argument...

Some people are good at experimenting, testing and tweaking to find the absolute best match for their traffic.

Some people are good at brokering it.

Just cos you're buying traffic, doesn't mean it's pure crap.

Paul Markham · 04-20-2011, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan

*yawn* tired old argument...

Some people are good at experimenting, testing and tweaking to find the absolute best match for their traffic.

Some people are good at brokering it.

Just cos you're buying traffic, doesn't mean it's pure crap.

They're clever enough to find all this traffic, cleaver enough to filter it and sell it in categories. Yet not clever enough to do what 100s of other are and make even more money.

Guess traffic isn't king then.

VladS · 04-20-2011, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BoardiesBitch

yes but the whole point of working revshare for an affiliate is PRECISELY your example

Have the decency and don't use the "revshare" word.

VladS · 04-20-2011, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

[...] Another important parameter is time. Customers to a chat site would never spend money on the very first visit (and if they did we might consider it fraud). We have found that on average it takes people about 15 or so log-ins before finally committing to making a purchase. How much time are you allowing for sites to convert your traffic? [...]

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Originally Posted by lagcam

This is actually nonsense Mark.

Actually, it is not nonsense. I don't say customers don't buy immediately, but that's more or less rare cases, generally customers spend some time before purchasing credits, this also depends on the actual cam site setup.

I don't really see the purpose of this thread other than promoting Choker's traffic. There are lots of criterias in order to do a proper test and even so, there is no way it can be too accurate.

Agent 488 · 04-20-2011, 04:08 AM

nothing will ever happen of this, as usual.

Jack Sparrow · 04-20-2011, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

nothing will ever happen of this, as usual.

Quoted for truth. Same with choker not accepting my offer.
Casting stones in the glasshouse, welcome to ae!

cam_girls · 04-20-2011, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Same with choker not accepting my offer.
Casting stones in the glasshouse, welcome to ae!

QUOTED FOR TRUTH!

Choker has no balls alright, this is just a cover up that he has some down there somewhere!

When the "comp" starts Frisky can send his 100,000 X 5 traffic to CamGirls.com and the other 5 "real" Camgirls sites combined getting that Choked Up traffic won't even register by comparison to what we'll make!

I'll setup NATS this week (no skin but working at CamAffiliate.com) on 30% RevShare - give us 2 months to tally the income! We'll make FRICKIN SHITLOADS when you use a REAL DOMAIN!

CamTraffic · 04-20-2011, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by carzygirls

why not just sign up to 5 different sponsors and post your own results. Why do they need to be on board?

I guess cause they advertise and buy traffic from him and they might pull if results are bad?

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Originally Posted by cam_girls

damn! Last time I bought 100,000 hits I made $20K extra over the next few months... but rules are rules... no white labels!

ahahahahah yeah okkkkk
that was by sending traffic to your streamMate WL?

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Quoted for truth. Same with choker not accepting my offer.
Casting stones in the glasshouse, welcome to ae!

Jeez, i wonder why http://www.free-cams.co.uk/ should convert all day </sarcasm>

lagcam · 04-20-2011, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Gsx-R

Actually, it is not nonsense. I don't say customers don't buy immediately, but that's more or less rare cases, generally customers spend some time before purchasing credits, this also depends on the actual cam site setup.

I don't know who you are and what site you are basing this opinion on but in my experience, you are wrong. Customers nowadays know how chat works and it is a daily occurence for a new member to purchase credits on the day he first visits the site.

If like Mark says customers on average come to the site 15 times before getting their credit card out, then there is something seriously wrong with the site.

That said, with Mark's livecamnetwork I can possibly understand it, as often (like right now for example) I have seen it with only 1 or 2 online.

rowan · 04-20-2011, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

They're clever enough to find all this traffic, cleaver enough to filter it and sell it in categories. Yet not clever enough to do what 100s of other are and make even more money.

Guess traffic isn't king then.

I can quickly determine the niche of a site by loading it and glancing at it for a moment, perhaps clicking on a few things if I'm unsure. It takes seconds.

Determining where I should send traffic from that site in order to convert it is a significantly more involved task.

Choker · 04-20-2011, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

Hi Choker,
You and I have done business before but the traffic ==> content matchup didn't seem to work out well for us because we didn't see a noticeable increase in sales.

I looked up your account back in 2008 you spent like $500 on traffic, then again in March 2010 you spent another $100. Looking at your orders the urls you sent to have no tracking urls on them, it's just the domain without a affiliate id or any tracking whatsoever. Also it apears you bought about 50% non premium countries. Also none of your urls you bought to are free live teaser chats. I have found that sending to a random girls online now free teaser chat does the best with cam sites. Also buying traffic to a url without a affiliate id, well your jsut guessing at conversions if you do that. Your last buy was $100 and $100 worth of traffic is not gonna make a dent on anyones stats really.
I should have managed these orders for you.

VladS · 04-20-2011, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by lagcam

I don't know who you are and what site you are basing this opinion on but in my experience, you are wrong. Customers nowadays know how chat works and it is a daily occurence for a new member to purchase credits on the day he first visits the site.

If like Mark says customers on average come to the site 15 times before getting their credit card out, then there is something seriously wrong with the site.

That said, with Mark's livecamnetwork I can possibly understand it, as often (like right now for example) I have seen it with only 1 or 2 online.

I don't own a cam site myself, however i've been in the cam business for a while now, as in promoting and researching cam sites.

I agree, for customers to visit 10 - 15 times a site before buying credits is a bit too much. It's not all about how many times they visit the site, but the timeframe between their visits. A potential customer can visit a site today wanting to buy credits, but doesn't like any model, so the customer doesn't buy credits. Customer visits again the site in X amount of time, likes a model, buys credit and so on, there's tons of scenarios.

A customer buying from the first visit to the site is a bit rare, at least that's my feedback, it also depends on each site setup.

digitalfantasies · 04-20-2011, 09:46 AM

so uh... who's participating?

PornoMonster · 04-20-2011, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker

I looked up your account back in 2008 you spent like $500 on traffic, then again in March 2010 you spent another $100. Looking at your orders the urls you sent to have no tracking urls on them, it's just the domain without a affiliate id or any tracking whatsoever. Also it apears you bought about 50% non premium countries. Also none of your urls you bought to are free live teaser chats. I have found that sending to a random girls online now free teaser chat does the best with cam sites. Also buying traffic to a url without a affiliate id, well your jsut guessing at conversions if you do that. Your last buy was $100 and $100 worth of traffic is not gonna make a dent on anyones stats really.
I should have managed these orders for you.

You say you want 5 cam sites to take this offer. One thing I see is some people keep buying traffic from you and some do not. So as you know the traffic might work for one cam site, but not the other. They could of also use a wrong or different landing than the other cam sites. on the domains I promote cams with, I use different landings and teasers depending on what KW the SE's are sending.

I say, just signup for 5 sites you have seen posting here, and run the test.
Picking the best 5 cam sites would help your traffic business, but might as well see how your traffic does against 5 random cam sites. Once you sign up as an affiliate, I am sure if the company has an account rep, they will help with what the best marketing tool will be, and or you seem to know what workes best with your traffic..

just a thought!

Choker · 04-20-2011, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

2 things:

2. Who says its the camsites, and not your crappy traffic. Would you be willing to post YOUR stats after i buy 100k and send them to 5 paysites YOU tell me to send to and compare them with 5 other brokers?

If so, let me know, and lets get this show on the road. If not, you are just as bad.

Serious question choker, would you be willing to take that on? No troll, seriously.

Not paysites, cam or dating sites. And send all 100k to the exact same site, exact same landing page, exact same geo. You dont have enough money to buy 100k from 5 different brokers, so why even discuss this?

V_RocKs · 04-20-2011, 10:22 AM

These people are actually quite lucky it is you and not me. I would have just signed up as my GF, sent the traffic and posted the results here for the top 10 or so sites by Alexa rating. At least you are letting them come out on whether or not they want to participate in the experiment.

Jakez · 04-20-2011, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

If traffic sellers content were worth anything they wouldn't be selling it at 1,000s of clicks for a $.

They would of always sent it to paysites, filtering it first themselves.

You are so completely incorrect, c'mon man you know that is an old noobish statement don't you?

Paul you most likely know more about this industry than anyone in the thread but your methods and ideologies are clearly outdated. Or maybe you just have no experience in buying and converting traffic from a broker? I am no pro but I know for a fact broker traffic is not worthless. The way some of their systems are setup do cause the traffic to perform better or worse though.

What 99% of traffic brokers really need to work on is giving the buyer some kind of control over exactly what sites the traffic comes from and the methods used to drive the traffic. If it's all traffic from tiny vague links on a bunch of random sites then it's probably going to perform like shit.

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

These people are actually quite lucky it is you and not me. I would have just signed up as my GF, sent the traffic and posted the results here for the top 10 or so sites by Alexa rating. At least you are letting them come out on whether or not they want to participate in the experiment.

I'm with you, why should someone be so kind as to ask if they can include a sponsor in their test? You're sending them traffic and you know what you're doing so if it doesn't work out then fuck them and their shitty cam site and post the results.

HomerSimpson · 04-20-2011, 12:03 PM

great thread...
would like to see the results...

I have a feeling I've been wasting my cam traffic for years now...

cooldude7 · 04-20-2011, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerSimpson

great thread...
would like to see the results...

I have a feeling I've been wasting my cam traffic for years now...

i have feeling that this thread is going nowhere.

Traffic Guru · 04-20-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Not paysites, cam or dating sites. And send all 100k to the exact same site, exact same landing page, exact same geo. You dont have enough money to buy 100k from 5 different brokers, so why even discuss this?

Quoted for truth.

Jack Sparrow · 04-20-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Not paysites, cam or dating sites. And send all 100k to the exact same site, exact same landing page, exact same geo. You dont have enough money to buy 100k from 5 different brokers, so why even discuss this?

Agreed. So you would participate choker?
Lets get serious. I am.

I'll buy 100k from different brokers. You may choose what camsite i will be promoting, you may choose the kind of traffic, i will buy identical traffic from all 5, 100k each.

I will post screens of everythinh, and i will give you access to to the camsites account so you can verify it.

How bout it, lets get it on the road? Or are you chickening out yet again?

Agent 488 · 04-20-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Agreed. So you would participate choker?
Lets get serious. I am.

I'll buy 100k from different brokers. You may choose what camsite i will be promoting, you may choose the kind of traffic, i will buy identical traffic from all 5, 100k each.

I will post screens of everythinh, and i will give you access to to the camsites account so you can verify it.

How bout it, lets get it on the road? Or are you chickening out yet again?

makes it more interesting.

Fob · 04-20-2011, 03:13 PM

step forward cam companies! i'll sign up at the winning site! =)

livexxx · 04-20-2011, 03:28 PM

I've got a UK site with a very UK orientated billing mechanism that works well, can I just buy some UK cam orientated traffic from you? I think I used to buy a fair bit off you before, but that was before we had all our cam stuff

Choker · 04-20-2011, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Agreed. So you would participate choker?
Lets get serious. I am.

I'll buy 100k from different brokers. You may choose what camsite i will be promoting, you may choose the kind of traffic, i will buy identical traffic from all 5, 100k each.

I will post screens of everythinh, and i will give you access to to the camsites account so you can verify it.

How bout it, lets get it on the road? Or are you chickening out yet again?

Of course I'm game. But one thing, brokers have different prices so make it a set amount of money for each broker, so hits sent by each will be different but same amount of money spent. Let me know when you have the funds deposited with the other 4 brokers. I'm thinking for us uk ca au you will need to deposit $400 with each.

Choker · 04-20-2011, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BoardiesBitch

how long are you going to wait before posting the results ?

Because obviously PPS and revshare will not produce the same amount.
Those revshared clients will keep on spending and will keep on making you money...

I'm thinking to do PPS and giving weekly updates

cam_girls · 04-20-2011, 03:50 PM

Choker can I BUY 100,000 at the same time as the other 5 cam sites?

I've only got RevShare model so let's set the cap at 2 months, I don't mind making all the profit!

I'm in! Playa #6! Unofficial entry!

Traffic Guru · 04-20-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Of course I'm game. But one thing, brokers have different prices so make it a set amount of money for each broker, so hits sent by each will be different but same amount of money spent. Let me know when you have the funds deposited with the other 4 brokers. I'm thinking for us uk ca au you will need to deposit $400 with each.

Thats 2K. Kid is going to pawn his bicycle, ps3 and all of his princely possessions to come up with that much money.

PornoMonster · 04-20-2011, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cam_girls

Choker can I BUY 100,000 at the same time as the other 5 cam sites?

I've only got RevShare model so let's set the cap at 2 months, I don't mind making all the profit!

I'm in! Playa #6! Unofficial entry!

Thread delivers, congrats to Choker for getting business.

Choker · 04-20-2011, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aron-NL

We are willing to participate in your test and looking forward to see the results. You may choose PPS or revshare, it's up to you. Our site www.needlive.com has been around for about 5 years now and we were buying traffic frequently from chokertraffic in the beginning. We did not buy in the recent months but if the traffic turns out to be good, we will consider running campaigns again.

Sounds like a plan, so now we have the first site. First things first, since I accepted Frisky's challenge how about we make your site the one he sends the $2500 worth of traffic from 5 different brokers too? Since your the first cam site to accept this challenge I think we should do this. Frisky did say I can pick the camsite. He will signup as a affiliate with you, then make 5 different campaigns, 1 for each broker, this way we can tell which broker sends the most signups. Since this is a public test I'm sure Frisky would not mind you posting the results.

digitalfantasies · 04-20-2011, 05:08 PM

well this is getting very interesting! can't wait for some results...

Choker · 04-20-2011, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by livexxx

I've got a UK site with a very UK orientated billing mechanism that works well, can I just buy some UK cam orientated traffic from you? I think I used to buy a fair bit off you before, but that was before we had all our cam stuff

Yes of course, just icq me 116894466 thanks

Traffic Guru · 04-20-2011, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by digitalfantasies

well this is getting very interesting! can't wait for some results...

Same here.
I have a feeling dutch queer boy is going to find some sort of excuse to back out of it, so hopefully someone will take on this challenge. I really want to see how adult broker traffic works. All jokes aside its been doing horribly for me.

CamDoughCat · 04-20-2011, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

I'm in a shit stirring mood so here goes.

I challenge all cam sites, especially the ones that always post here how great thier site converts. Here's the deal:

I will send 100k US,UK,CA,AU traffic to your site as a affiliate. There's no cost to you so the only excuse for not participating in this is that your site converts for shit.

To keep this fair and unbiased, someone else will signup for your program, so you won't know its me. This will be a new account.

When I get 5 cam sites onboard the traffic will start, all 5 sites will get the exact same traffic at the exact same time, so no excuses about day or time of day. In fact if I send a surfer to the first cam site today, he will not be sent to another cam for another 30 days. So your not gonna get the same recycled surfers.

I will post results in this thread. I ask that the cam sites that have the balls post here in this thread, as soon as 5 come forward I will begin the test. I also ask that you post here your best converting landing page, as once the test begins I will not change the landing page for any reason whatsoever. I'm going out on a limb here and putting my own money out there. So again, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE FOR NOT PARTICIPATING IN THIS TEST.

Just woke up here and saw this thread....

Hey add us to your list we'll take the traffic and have no problems whatsoever with your posting the results on here. We don't have PPS but do offer 30% Revshare for the LIFETIME of the customer. That's lifetime as in the rest of this year, all of next year, the year after that, etc., etc. You also get 60% of any VIP purchases the member makes.

We've been in this game since 2001 and in our experience revshare is the better way to go. We deal with mainly Asian cam models and say what you will about comparing them to their western counterparts, but the simple fact is - they're addictive as hell.

So go ahead.....add us to your little mad scientist experiment and send us the traffic to http://www.asians247.com which is our main flash-based site. We also have custom white labels, live embeds, iframes, etc. but you asked for the regular site link so their you have it. Sign up as an affiliate to get a tracking code and set a campaign ID to it and you'll get paid on any sales you make same as anyone else does. Keep in mind you'll also see any free joins you may get and never discount these as often times guys might not buy right away and sometimes do so after testing out the free chat for awhile. Come back here and post the results.

Vjo · 04-20-2011, 09:15 PM

Good stuff.

04-19-2011, 09:35 PM	#51
lagcam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,892	I have never posted how great my cam site converts but I do believe that it converts pretty well, simply because we provide very good value for money. It is not a whitelabel, it is a fully functioning site, standalone site, 100% owned and managed by me. I am actually presently thinking over an offer to sell my site and such a test could help me or completely fuck me, but if my site is not too small for your requirements for your test (around 50 online 24/7) I would be prepared to take that risk and put it forward. We do not normally use external affiliates, but we have a good inbuilt affiliate program that we use for tracking sales from our own network of domains that would provide very adequate tracking, and you could have access to that for verification. __________________ Working Cam site for sale - NOT affiliate.

04-19-2011, 10:05 PM	#53
2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 49,499	Hi Choker, I'm a little surprised at your attitude. Why would you call anyone a shithead for calling anything unfair? Don't get me wrong - your idea could be good, but in my opinion you have left our a few important parameters to your offer. In particular, you left out (or I didn't notice) the keywords you will use, the sources of the traffic, the quality of the traffic (Are these hits from qualified customers? If so how do you define qualified?) What about Geo traffic? Language perhaps? Another important parameter is time. Customers to a chat site would never spend money on the very first visit (and if they did we might consider it fraud). We have found that on average it takes people about 15 or so log-ins before finally committing to making a purchase. How much time are you allowing for sites to convert your traffic? Next, exactly what are you looking for as far as a commission goes? What percentage? PPS or Rev Share? A few months ago we gave up on our own affiliate program simply because affiliate costs (Commissions + Support) could not compete with carefully selected pay per click traffic. PPC is easy to manage, and works incredibly well for us, and is much cheaper than any affiliate program. You and I have done business before but the traffic ==> content matchup didn't seem to work out well for us because we didn't see a noticeable increase in sales. However, I think your offer is really interesting and I would like to take you up on it, but with a couple of requests. Would you be willing to: - Provide quality, targeted, North American, qualified traffic - Limit the clicks to about 2500 per day (giving initial visitors time to sign up) - Do this for NO COMMISSION? In place of a commission, I would be willing to agree to purchase 1.5 Million clicks worth of PPC traffic from you over 3 months as long as it was the same filtered traffic described above as long as a percentage of the traffic you sent "converted" (ie, was a good match up for our content). What percentage of conversion would you think would be fair for this test? __________________ Custom Coding \| Videochat Solutions \| Age Verification \| IT Help & Support www.2Much.net

04-20-2011, 12:32 AM	#57
BoardiesBitch Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 861	how long are you going to wait before posting the results ? Because obviously PPS and revshare will not produce the same amount. Those revshared clients will keep on spending and will keep on making you money... __________________ XXXBlackBook RESPONSIVE - SexPlayCam RESPONSIVE - BlackTryst RESPONSIVE Up to $60 Per TRIAL - SubID+Pixel/Postback tracking arno at loadedcash. com - Skype : arnaud.tac SIGNUP here and send me your login so i can set you up

04-20-2011, 12:40 AM	#59
Aron-NL Let's do business! Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 153	We are in We are willing to participate in your test and looking forward to see the results. You may choose PPS or revshare, it's up to you. Our site www.needlive.com has been around for about 5 years now and we were buying traffic frequently from chokertraffic in the beginning. We did not buy in the recent months but if the traffic turns out to be good, we will consider running campaigns again. __________________ SoulCams Affiliate Program LIVESTER - Our Mastodon space SoulCams Blog

04-20-2011, 02:49 AM	#64
Emil Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 5,650	Nice one Choker __________________ Free 🅑🅘🅣🅒🅞🅘🅝🅢 Every Hour (Yes, really. Free ₿itCoins.) (Signup with ONLY your Email and Password. You can also refer people and get even more.)

04-19-2011, 11:46 PM	#56
Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	2 things: 1. Why would you need to ask someone to do a test? Just do the freaking test already and pick some out. 2. Who says its the camsites, and not your crappy traffic. Would you be willing to post YOUR stats after i buy 100k and send them to 5 paysites YOU tell me to send to and compare them with 5 other brokers? If so, let me know, and lets get this show on the road. If not, you are just as bad. Serious question choker, would you be willing to take that on? No troll, seriously.

04-20-2011, 01:16 AM	#60
cam_girls So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,968	damn! Last time I bought 100,000 hits I made $20K extra over the next few months... but rules are rules... no white labels!

04-20-2011, 01:33 AM	#61
cooldude7 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Heaven Posts: 4,306	u r the man choker, keep us updated, good luck.

04-20-2011, 01:34 AM	#62
cooldude7 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Heaven Posts: 4,306	u r the man choker, keep us updated, good luck.

04-20-2011, 04:08 AM	#70
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	nothing will ever happen of this, as usual.

04-20-2011, 09:46 AM	#78
digitalfantasies Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Caribbean Posts: 2,720	so uh... who's participating?

04-20-2011, 10:22 AM	#81
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	These people are actually quite lucky it is you and not me. I would have just signed up as my GF, sent the traffic and posted the results here for the top 10 or so sites by Alexa rating. At least you are letting them come out on whether or not they want to participate in the experiment.

04-20-2011, 12:03 PM	#83
HomerSimpson Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Springfield Posts: 13,826	great thread... would like to see the results... I have a feeling I've been wasting my cam traffic for years now... __________________ Make a bank with Chaturbate - the best selling webcam program Ads that can't be block with AdBlockers !!! /// Best paying popup program (Bitcoin payouts) !!! PHP, MySql, Smarty, CodeIgniter, Laravel, WordPress, NATS... fixing stuff, server migrations & optimizations... My ICQ: 27429884 \| Email:

04-20-2011, 03:13 PM	#88
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04-20-2011, 03:28 PM	#89
livexxx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,201	I've got a UK site with a very UK orientated billing mechanism that works well, can I just buy some UK cam orientated traffic from you? I think I used to buy a fair bit off you before, but that was before we had all our cam stuff

04-20-2011, 03:50 PM	#92
cam_girls So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,968	Choker can I BUY 100,000 at the same time as the other 5 cam sites? I've only got RevShare model so let's set the cap at 2 months, I don't mind making all the profit! I'm in! Playa #6! Unofficial entry!

04-20-2011, 05:08 PM	#96
digitalfantasies Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Caribbean Posts: 2,720	well this is getting very interesting! can't wait for some results...

04-20-2011, 09:15 PM	#100
Vjo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Happy 4th of July :) Posts: 6,082	Good stuff.