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Choker · 04-19-2011, 01:45 PM

I'm in a shit stirring mood so here goes.

I challenge all cam sites, especially the ones that always post here how great thier site converts. Here's the deal:

I will send 100k US,UK,CA,AU traffic to your site as a affiliate. There's no cost to you so the only excuse for not participating in this is that your site converts for shit.

To keep this fair and unbiased, someone else will signup for your program, so you won't know its me. This will be a new account.

When I get 5 cam sites onboard the traffic will start, all 5 sites will get the exact same traffic at the exact same time, so no excuses about day or time of day. In fact if I send a surfer to the first cam site today, he will not be sent to another cam for another 30 days. So your not gonna get the same recycled surfers.

I will post results in this thread. I ask that the cam sites that have the balls post here in this thread, as soon as 5 come forward I will begin the test. I also ask that you post here your best converting landing page, as once the test begins I will not change the landing page for any reason whatsoever. I'm going out on a limb here and putting my own money out there. So again, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE FOR NOT PARTICIPATING IN THIS TEST.

PornoMonster · 04-19-2011, 01:47 PM

interesting,
one thing you going to do PPS or revshare?

fatfoo · 04-19-2011, 01:48 PM

There should be many conversions from 100K traffic. There will be even more free signups than paid signups. Some cam sites offer free signups as well as paid.

- LOL - · 04-19-2011, 01:49 PM

a challenger appears

PornoMonster · 04-19-2011, 01:50 PM

I guess you could just post ALL Stats and let people decide what is best for them.

Choker · 04-19-2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster

interesting,
one thing you going to do PPS or revshare?

Good question, if I do pps the losers will say revshare makes more with them, and if I do Revshare the losers will say PPS does better with them. How about if the cam sites that post here that they want to participate choose pps or revshare themself?

goldassets · 04-19-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fatfoo

There should be many conversions from 100K traffic. There will be even more free signups than paid signups. Some cam sites offer free signups as well as paid.

Adding you to ignore since you're obviously fucking retarded.

Agent 488 · 04-19-2011, 01:52 PM

why would they risk their rep on what might be garbage traffic? seems like a lose-lose.

Klen · 04-19-2011, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by goldassets

Adding you to ignore since you're obviously fucking retarded.

You must be new here

- LOL - · 04-19-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by goldassets

Adding you to ignore since you're obviously fucking retarded.

you must be new here ...

TeenCat · 04-19-2011, 02:06 PM

nice move man, even if it will be garbage traffic, with 100k there have to be some sales, so no excuse for sponsors, its not about how is ratio, but about who can get the best of it, go play master

will76 · 04-19-2011, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Good question, if I do pps the losers will say revshare makes more with them, and if I do Revshare the losers will say PPS does better with them. How about if the cam sites that post here that they want to participate choose pps or revshare themself?

If you want to compare them, then it doesn't matter which you do PPS or Revshare, just as long as you do the same for all 5. Although, I do think PPS would be more accurate. It just takes getting lucky and getting one whale on one of the five sites and that is going to skew your stats and make that one program look better then the rest when all it was, was the lucky one that landed the whale. I'd do PPS, that is just based off of how well the site gets people to do an initial join and purchase.

Why make the cam sites post that they want to be included. All cam sites are going to say they convert the best and will make you the most money. Just pick the 5 biggest. If you need I will suggest 5 for you to try and would be curious to see your results.

dyna mo · 04-19-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Good question, if I do pps the losers will say revshare makes more with them, and if I do Revshare the losers will say PPS does better with them. How about if the cam sites that post here that they want to participate choose pps or revshare themself?

perhaps split the traffic up such that 1/2 is rs and 1/2 is pps for each site?

MyCamProfile · 04-19-2011, 02:11 PM

Site URL: http://www.mycamprofile.com/
Affiliate Signup page: http://wm.mtree.com/webmasters/ref/?346731
Landing page: Homepage

Agent 488 · 04-19-2011, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MyCamProfile

Site URL: http://www.mycamprofile.com/
Affiliate Signup page: http://wm.mtree.com/webmasters/ref/?346731
Landing page: Homepage

game on.

will76 · 04-19-2011, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

perhaps split the traffic up such that 1/2 is rs and 1/2 is pps for each site?

for a limited test, over short period of time... it should be PPS.

If Site C gets lucky and gets a whale who spends 20K (likely would have spent 20K on any of the top 5 cam sites since they all would have quality girls and decent system) then it would look like one site was 1000x times better than the rest, when it was just pure luck of the draw. You can't skew the stats with PPS.

Choker · 04-19-2011, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

for a limited test, over short period of time... it should be PPS.

If Site C gets lucky and gets a whale who spends 20K (likely would have spent 20K on any of the top 5 cam sites since they all would have quality girls and decent system) then it would look like one site was 1000x times better than the rest, when it was just pure luck of the draw. You can't skew the stats with PPS.

Once again, you are right. Happy now?

FlexxAeon · 04-19-2011, 02:14 PM

blah too slow lol

Choker · 04-19-2011, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat

nice move man, even if it will be garbage traffic, with 100k there have to be some sales, so no excuse for sponsors, its not about how is ratio, but about who can get the best of it, go play master

The cam sites that are buying the $5 per niche traffic from me are making a profit, for this test I'll send the $3 which is much lower quality, however as each site will get the exact same traffic and 100k is more than enough to get results, then this will be as accurate as you can get on a test like this. Of course there will be shitheads that will claim its not fair but they wont come up with a test themself will they?

dyna mo · 04-19-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

for a limited test, over short period of time... it should be PPS.

If Site C gets lucky and gets a whale who spends 20K (likely would have spent 20K on any of the top 5 cam sites since they all would have quality girls and decent system) then it would look like one site was 1000x times better than the rest, when it was just pure luck of the draw. You can't skew the stats with PPS.

makes sense. what about counting # of transactions? just throwing shit out there btw.

Choker · 04-19-2011, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

Why make the cam sites post that they want to be included. All cam sites are going to say they convert the best and will make you the most money. Just pick the 5 biggest. If you need I will suggest 5 for you to try and would be curious to see your results.

The 5 biggest already buy from me and have no need to participate in this. This is aimed more at the cam sites that convert great but few people know of them.

sarettah · 04-19-2011, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Good question, if I do pps the losers will say revshare makes more with them, and if I do Revshare the losers will say PPS does better with them. How about if the cam sites that post here that they want to participate choose pps or revshare themself?

A/B split the traffic. Half to rev and half to pps.

edited in: ooops, see someone already suggested that... Gotta read the fucking whole thread first.

more edited in: You do know that cam_girls is gonna try to jump in, don't you? ;p

Choker · 04-19-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

A/B split the traffic. Half to rev and half to pps.

edited in: ooops, see someone already suggested that... Gotta read the fucking whole thread first.

more edited in: You do know that cam_girls is gonna try to jump in, don't you? ;p

Well let me make a new rule right now, no white,black,orange,or purple labels lol, Seriously though no need for whitelabel sites for this.

Nicky · 04-19-2011, 02:40 PM

Bump, waiting for cam_girls

MyCamProfile · 04-19-2011, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Well let me make a new rule right now, no white,black,orange,or purple labels lol, Seriously though no need for whitelabel sites for this.

Well I'm out then.. my bad.

Choker · 04-19-2011, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MyCamProfile

Well I'm out then.. my bad.

Ah your site is a whitelabel of streamate?

$5 submissions · 04-19-2011, 02:44 PM

Is this traffic craigslist/backlinks/kijiji traffic or yahoo chat traffic or tube-based traffic? Should be interesting to see how those 3 traffic sources compare in conversions among the 5 cam program participants. Maybe even throw in 3 new sources of blackhat (but non-bot captured) traffic.... That would be a nice comparison graphic for the forum to see.

MyCamProfile · 04-19-2011, 02:44 PM

Yep. Three different affiliates actually, so they have plenty of options. Converts well though

goldassets · 04-19-2011, 02:46 PM

lol @ the whitelabel newbies

ottopottomouse · 04-19-2011, 02:48 PM

How long are you giving the revshare before drawing a line under the total?

Choker · 04-19-2011, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MyCamProfile

Yep. Three different affiliates actually, so they have plenty of options. Converts well though

So from your site you have girls from 3 different programs? Every week a new cam site that has maybe 4 girls online at the same time wants to buy traffic, I always tell them to use iframes and put thumbs from affiliate cam sites under their online girls thumbs so if they dont have enough girls online at least they can get signups and get paid. So your site takes this to the next level?

Choker · 04-19-2011, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

How long are you giving the revshare before drawing a line under the total?

Well most seem to think for this test we should stick to PPS. From what I hear most affiiates prefer pps nowadays anyway.

MyCamProfile · 04-19-2011, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

So from your site you have girls from 3 different programs? Every week a new cam site that has maybe 4 girls online at the same time wants to buy traffic, I always tell them to use iframes and put thumbs from affiliate cam sites under their online girls thumbs so if they dont have enough girls online at least they can get signups and get paid. So your site takes this to the next level?

Yes, that's the idea. Also in-case a customer is already a member of one of the new cam sites I am promoting they have more options instead of just 1 site.. and of course they have the option of creating a profile on my network and interacting with said performers and requesting custom video's, view their latest tweet's, seeing what cam sites they are apart of, becoming a recruiter, etc.

AmeliaG · 04-19-2011, 03:43 PM

That is a very cool idea, Choker. I'll be interested to see the results. I think that having the programs specify whether you should test PPS or revshare would be the best test.

Django · 04-19-2011, 04:19 PM

Great thread?

IllTestYourGirls · 04-19-2011, 04:27 PM

You should give it some time to allow it to convert as well. Many free sign ups wont buy for awhile and some sponsors are better at getting that free sign up to actually buy 1 or 2 months from now than others.

will76 · 04-19-2011, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

That is a very cool idea, Choker. I'll be interested to see the results. I think that having the programs specify whether you should test PPS or revshare would be the best test.

then the ones that select PPS would look 100x better, but given the option none of them would select revshare since you make your money back over a LONG period of time, not a short test.

moeloubani · 04-19-2011, 04:33 PM

I'm going to donate all the money I have to hungry children around the world. I'm gonna do it I swear I have the money right here. Just need 5 hungry children that have the balls to take my money come here and say they need it.

??? Just do it and show results, why do you need permission to do something?

IllTestYourGirls · 04-19-2011, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

I'm going to donate all the money I have to hungry children around the world. I'm gonna do it I swear I have the money right here. Just need 5 hungry children that have the balls to take my money come here and say they need it.

??? Just do it and show results, why do you need permission to do something?

My guess is because he has a little business sense and does not want to piss off people who are already buying traffic from him or possible future buyers?

helterskelter808 · 04-19-2011, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MyCamProfile

Yes, that's the idea. Also in-case a customer is already a member of one of the new cam sites I am promoting they have more options instead of just 1 site..

Not quite the white label that you claim to have.

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and of course they have the option of creating a profile on my network and interacting with said performers and requesting custom video's, view their latest tweet's, seeing what cam sites they are apart of, becoming a recruiter, etc.

Can you explain how someone can "interact" with models on your site when they are actually performers on other, real actual, cam sites?

The "webcam models" on your site (as opposed to the iframes from real third party cam sites) are transparently fake. Eg, Kilma a "Popular webcam model" on your front page:

mycamprofile.com/profile/206/Kilma.html

Not only two complely different people, but two completely different races!

And neither of which I'd say is "Indian", like the made up description says.

Choker · 04-19-2011, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MyCamProfile

Yes, that's the idea. Also in-case a customer is already a member of one of the new cam sites I am promoting they have more options instead of just 1 site.. and of course they have the option of creating a profile on my network and interacting with said performers and requesting custom video's, view their latest tweet's, seeing what cam sites they are apart of, becoming a recruiter, etc.

Well one question, if I send traffic as a affiliate do I get paid for signups on the adds on the site?

Traffic Guru · 04-19-2011, 07:11 PM

Choker,
Have you tried http://www.free-cams.co.uk ?
I hear it converts madly.

Choker · 04-19-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Traffic Guru

Choker,
Have you tried http://www.free-cams.co.uk ?
I hear it converts madly.

Where's the Magic enter link? It must convert so great that he hides the entire site because his servers can't handle all the traffic.

TeenCat · 04-19-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Traffic Guru

Choker,
Have you tried http://www.free-cams.co.uk ?
I hear it converts madly.

yes this one is putting cams to another level ...

ratios 1:-2

DBS.US · 04-19-2011, 07:21 PM

Great idea, but I would have done it in secret.

cherrylula · 04-19-2011, 07:22 PM

I love Choker threads, especially these kind. haha

carzygirls · 04-19-2011, 08:48 PM

why not just sign up to 5 different sponsors and post your own results. Why do they need to be on board?

vyper88 · 04-19-2011, 08:55 PM

2 words for you choker- MAD KRUNT!

MyCamProfile · 04-19-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Not quite the white label that you claim to have.

Can you explain how someone can "interact" with models on your site when they are actually performers on other, real actual, cam sites?

The "webcam models" on your site (as opposed to the iframes from real third party cam sites) are transparently fake. Eg, Kilma a "Popular webcam model" on your front page:

mycamprofile.com/profile/206/Kilma.html

Not only two complely different people, but two completely different races!

And neither of which I'd say is "Indian", like the made up description says.

There is a built-in message system for customers to interact with webcam performer's. In the models profile they have their special links linking to their webcam show's. Yes, they are only 3rd party i-frames. I should of mentioned that.

The profile for Kilma is actually my web developers test page prior to launch of the website. I can assure you that everyone else is real.

MyCamProfile · 04-19-2011, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Well one question, if I send traffic as a affiliate do I get paid for signups on the adds on the site?

You will get paid for agent recruits, webcam model recruits, and i-frame affiliate PPS joins. There is also a bonus for the rest of this, and next month of $50 per sign-up of each model that works 5 hours. So definitely some money to be made

04-19-2011, 01:45 PM	#1
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	Calling all Cam Sites-Do you have the balls? I'm in a shit stirring mood so here goes. I challenge all cam sites, especially the ones that always post here how great thier site converts. Here's the deal: I will send 100k US,UK,CA,AU traffic to your site as a affiliate. There's no cost to you so the only excuse for not participating in this is that your site converts for shit. To keep this fair and unbiased, someone else will signup for your program, so you won't know its me. This will be a new account. When I get 5 cam sites onboard the traffic will start, all 5 sites will get the exact same traffic at the exact same time, so no excuses about day or time of day. In fact if I send a surfer to the first cam site today, he will not be sent to another cam for another 30 days. So your not gonna get the same recycled surfers. I will post results in this thread. I ask that the cam sites that have the balls post here in this thread, as soon as 5 come forward I will begin the test. I also ask that you post here your best converting landing page, as once the test begins I will not change the landing page for any reason whatsoever. I'm going out on a limb here and putting my own money out there. So again, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE FOR NOT PARTICIPATING IN THIS TEST. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

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04-19-2011, 01:48 PM	#3
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TeenCat Too lazy to set a koala Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CZ/EU forever! Posts: 16,139	nice move man, even if it will be garbage traffic, with 100k there have to be some sales, so no excuse for sponsors, its not about how is ratio, but about who can get the best of it, go play master __________________ 6bot / Coming again very soon! Svit Zlin Radio 24/7!

04-19-2011, 01:49 PM	#4
- LOL - So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 396	a challenger appears

04-19-2011, 01:52 PM	#8
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	why would they risk their rep on what might be garbage traffic? seems like a lose-lose.

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04-19-2011, 02:44 PM	#27
$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	Is this traffic craigslist/backlinks/kijiji traffic or yahoo chat traffic or tube-based traffic? Should be interesting to see how those 3 traffic sources compare in conversions among the 5 cam program participants. Maybe even throw in 3 new sources of blackhat (but non-bot captured) traffic.... That would be a nice comparison graphic for the forum to see. __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

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04-19-2011, 03:43 PM	#34
AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,528	That is a very cool idea, Choker. I'll be interested to see the results. I think that having the programs specify whether you should test PPS or revshare would be the best test. __________________ GFY Hall of Famer AltStar Hall of Famer Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

04-19-2011, 04:19 PM	#35
Django So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,578	Great thread?

04-19-2011, 04:27 PM	#36
IllTestYourGirls Ah My Balls Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under the gold leaf ICQ 388-454-421 Posts: 14,311	You should give it some time to allow it to convert as well. Many free sign ups wont buy for awhile and some sponsors are better at getting that free sign up to actually buy 1 or 2 months from now than others. __________________

04-19-2011, 04:33 PM	#38
moeloubani Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 4,235	I'm going to donate all the money I have to hungry children around the world. I'm gonna do it I swear I have the money right here. Just need 5 hungry children that have the balls to take my money come here and say they need it. ??? Just do it and show results, why do you need permission to do something?

04-19-2011, 07:11 PM	#42
Traffic Guru Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 357	Choker, Have you tried http://www.free-cams.co.uk ? I hear it converts madly.

04-19-2011, 07:21 PM	#45
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04-19-2011, 07:22 PM	#46
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	I love Choker threads, especially these kind. haha

04-19-2011, 08:48 PM	#47
carzygirls So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 857	why not just sign up to 5 different sponsors and post your own results. Why do they need to be on board?

04-19-2011, 08:55 PM	#48
vyper88 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 176	2 words for you choker- MAD KRUNT! __________________ ICQ: 565302431 - NOT USING ICQ ANYMORE