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Old 04-22-2011, 08:45 AM   #51
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The us is controlled by corporations and bankers. I have an idea to fix it. Give the government more power. Give the government control over your whole life via single payer health care. That should do the trick!
The point is for the people to make the government serve the peoples interests by creating a Health Service free at the point of use, free education, social housing etc instead of government serving the interests of the rich - reducing taxes (for them) fighting wars to protect their interests.

The American Revolution was against despotic monarchies not against a government of the people for the people.

It is sad that the old regimes of europe serve their people better than the democratic US.

You have to take back your government back from the rich.
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Old 04-22-2011, 08:49 AM   #52
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Enforcing a no fly zone isn't the only goal in Libya. The primary goal is to protect the citizens of Libya.
Then protect them by killing the rebels. They are the ones killing the people of Libya. The government only fights off the terrorists who are killing their people. Majority of Libyan people don't want the terrorists to take over and support their government in their efforts to protect them.
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Old 04-22-2011, 09:02 AM   #53
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Libya

Since my uncle worked there for many years and there are many students from Libya in my country, I can say only few things that people are "experiencing under" Gaddafi:

1. Free health insurance
2. Free education
3. Mortgage without interest
4. When you get married, you will get apartment or house from a state
5. During period of studying, students are getting average salary that they will have once they finish university (in their area of expertise)
6. If they don't find job after university, country will pay salary until they do so
7. Car can be bought on factory price
8. 25 percent of people is highly educated
9. Libya don't have debt! (zero)
10.If you are studiyng in foreign country, you will get monthly around 2k Euros, together with paid expenses for school.
11. Foreigners mostly do hard and dirty works and that's reason why there are so many of them there.
12. Dozen more small things that are making life easy.

Should I tell more..?
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Old 04-22-2011, 11:11 AM   #54
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...you forgot one of the most important things - Gaddafi built the Nubian Sandstone Aquifer which provides his people with the most precious commodity in this part of the world - fresh drinking water. Water there is more valued than gasoline. People can live without gas, but not without water. The Great Man-Made River Project was built with zero assistance from foreign monetary funds or world bank so it was built without enslaving the people of Libya through foreign debt. That's why they (French, Americans, etc.) don't like him and need him replaced with someone who does as he's told.
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Old 04-22-2011, 11:23 AM   #55
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Enforcing a no fly zone isn't the only goal in Libya. The primary goal is to protect the citizens of Libya from it's own government, which originally had started bombing it's own citizens.
The reason why the US action is unconstitutional and Obama should be impeached.
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Old 04-22-2011, 11:29 AM   #56
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So you think its ok to go kill people that did nothing to us recently?

We took care of what they did to us back in the day

Obama attacked them without our own Congress approving it!

So Fuck YOU!

I am all about Destroying an enemy when they provoke US first!
Congress did approve a no fly zone.
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Old 04-22-2011, 11:33 AM   #57
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Congress did approve a no fly zone.
With even shadier tactics than Bush. And both houses did not approve it.
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OK. So it's really a no Qaddafi-Zone ... NP
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:06 PM   #59
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and he got nobel for peace, buhhahahahahha
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Wow...I was listening to the news on the radio an hour ago in my car.

They announced that they are considering using our drone planes in Libya. A spokesman for the military said that yes, sometimes the drones make mistakes...but the people there have told him that mistakes by the drones are a price they are willing to pay to get rid of Gaddafi!

WTF????

So "the people" there think it's okay for us to "make mistakes" and kill innocent people occasionally as long it gets rid of him? What a crock of shit.
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:34 PM   #61
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Wow...I was listening to the news on the radio an hour ago in my car.

They announced that they are considering using our drone planes in Libya. A spokesman for the military said that yes, sometimes the drones make mistakes...but the people there have told him that mistakes by the drones are a price they are willing to pay to get rid of Gaddafi!

WTF????

So "the people" there think it's okay for us to "make mistakes" and kill innocent people occasionally as long it gets rid of him? What a crock of shit.
Shouldn't be to hard to "get rid of him" since his ass is always making public appearances. These people are just full of shit.
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...you forgot one of the most important things - Gaddafi built the Nubian Sandstone Aquifer which provides his people with the most precious commodity in this part of the world - fresh drinking water. Water there is more valued than gasoline. People can live without gas, but not without water. The Great Man-Made River Project was built with zero assistance from foreign monetary funds or world bank so it was built without enslaving the people of Libya through foreign debt. That's why they (French, Americans, etc.) don't like him and need him replaced with someone who does as he's told.
No I didn't ,like I've mentioned, there are much more things. I was just stating those that people from US have a chance to understand. What they have there is real socialism and someone want to destroy that not to give example to others
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Pigshit...the U.S has not gone "full blast" since the Second World War.
You will know when USA is about to go full blast when you see a video on Youtube of Obama practice his shooting at a firing range underneath the Whitehouse upload and hit 4,0000 views in under a week.
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Old 04-22-2011, 02:33 PM   #64
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With even shadier tactics than Bush. And both houses did not approve it.
Only according to Rand Paul because he voted for the no fly zone before he was against it.

/shrug.
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Old 04-22-2011, 02:39 PM   #65
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Since my uncle worked there for many years and there are many students from Libya in my country, I can say only few things that people are "experiencing under" Gaddafi:

1. Free health insurance
2. Free education
3. Mortgage without interest
4. When you get married, you will get apartment or house from a state
5. During period of studying, students are getting average salary that they will have once they finish university (in their area of expertise)
6. If they don't find job after university, country will pay salary until they do so
7. Car can be bought on factory price
8. 25 percent of people is highly educated
9. Libya don't have debt! (zero)
10.If you are studiyng in foreign country, you will get monthly around 2k Euros, together with paid expenses for school.
11. Foreigners mostly do hard and dirty works and that's reason why there are so many of them there.
12. Dozen more small things that are making life easy.

Should I tell more..?
Then what do the Rebels want??????
Why are they trying to out him?
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Old 04-22-2011, 02:42 PM   #66
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Then what do the Rebels want??????
Why are they trying to out him?
yea, sounds pretty good to me.
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Shouldn't be to hard to "get rid of him" since his ass is always making public appearances. These people are just full of shit.
Have the officially found and killed Osama yet, the guy that did the most horrific terrorist act????
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Then what do the Rebels want??????
Why are they trying to out him?
Two words :

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Then what do the Rebels want??????
Why are they trying to out him?
Stupidity, greed, money...in every system there are people that if supported, will make money while damaging others. Just take a look at Kosovo. At the end, rebels armed with tanks, airplanes and artilery? In case if Gaddafi go down, USA will need it's people to run now privatized and taken business. Those people will be millioners (and now are bitches with guns). I've seen that in my country, very similar scenario. Real Libyans don't have any serious reason not to support colonel , he gave them life that we won't ever be able to experience and see.
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Good God.

What is it good for? Absolutely nothing. Say it again!
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Good God.

What is it good for? Absolutely nothing. Say it again!
well the government gets drained by people like dick cheney that owns the company that feeds and houses the troops
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