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Old 05-01-2011, 09:48 PM   #1
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:tongue obama says murder is peaceful :)

Obama is a great speech giver..


"his demise ( bin laden ) should be welcomed by all who believe in peace and dignity"


not sure how peaceful and dignified it is to assassinate someone..
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its not peaceful
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Obama is a great speech giver..


"his demise ( bin laden ) should be welcomed by all who believe in peace and dignity"


not sure how peaceful and dignified it is to assassinate someone..
Didn't Osama Bin Laden openly declare war against the United States?
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So they shouldn't have killed Osama ?
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Didn't Osama Bin Laden openly declare war against the United States?
Yes...twice actually.
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to kill a mass murderer is an action of peace. I'm not sure how that's so hard to understand
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to kill a mass murderer is an action of peace. I'm not sure how that's so hard to understand
it only sends them from this world. peace has nothing to do with killing.
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it only sends them from this world.
There he wont be able to facilitate even more murders, creating peace.
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Obama is a great speech giver..


"his demise ( bin laden ) should be welcomed by all who believe in peace and dignity"


not sure how peaceful and dignified it is to assassinate someone..
BTW...the thread title is not true...that is not what the President said...but it is not unusual for you to post pigshit.
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to kill a mass murderer is an action of peace. I'm not sure how that's so hard to understand
Because killing someone isn't the best way to bring them to justice. But that said, I'm sure the US went in to get him alive or they would have just used their planes and drones and all that. Sucks to glorify murder and make it okay to kill someone for ANY reason and Obama should have stressed that more and made it clear they went in to get the guy alive.
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There he wont be able to facilitate even more murders, creating peace.
anyone thats an american should leave the middle east. id hate to end up in one of those beheading videos.
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There he wont be able to facilitate even more murders, creating peace.
but if bin laden was killing people to create peace then we just killed someone peacefull. And now that obama killed someone , wouldn't it be peacefull and dignified to kill him.. thus creating more peace..
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BTW...the thread title is not true...that is not what the President
no the thread title is what i said ( notice it has my name next to it , not obamas ) , what obama said is in quotes above..

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it is not unusual for dullards to not understand the concept of a forum they have been a member of for years.
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but if bin laden was killing people to create peace then we just killed someone peacefull. And now that obama killed someone , wouldn't it be peacefull and dignified to kill him.. thus creating more peace..
Ok, now you're just being silly.
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to kill a mass murderer is an action of peace. I'm not sure how that's so hard to understand
kill != peace

by definition killing is not peaceful.

not arguing that killing someone couldn't create a peacefull situation , but kill != peace
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So they shouldn't have killed Osama ?
even though I am happy he is killed .. in a way I think I would be even more happy if they could have captured him alive ...
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by definition killing is not peaceful.
Never said it was, But in this case killing will create peace. There's one less mass murderer out there. Peace +1
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Ok, now you're just being silly.
one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter.. americans have killed alot of muslims. If he (bin laden ) believed by killing americans he was thus saving the deaths of muslims then bin laden was trying to create peace by killing , the same excuse you are trying to use for obama killing bin laden.

If you kill a bee that is stinging you , it is not a "peaceful" act , it may create peace for you, but certainly not peaceful to kill.

as far as i am aware bin laden never killed or hurt anyone , he may have certainly ordered killings , just as obama and bush have , difference being obama and bush have killed alot more of them than they have of us.
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hey remember when this thread was about you trying to tear apart Obama's rock solid point? Anyone that supports a persons right to life and dignity should be welcoming this news. THE MAN WAS A MASS MURDERER.
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So they shouldn't have killed Osama ?
not for me to say , but i would feel better if he called it "payback biatch"

I don't have the guts to be a judge or the president so thankfully i don't have to make that decision..

maybe they should have just captured him and locked him in a box.
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Anyone that supports a persons right to life
doesn't it feel strange to say anyone that supports a persons right to life should welcome the taking of someones right to life ?

obama has now taken away someones right to life, so thus the same thing should now happen to him correct ?

you seem to be of the opinion that if you take away someones right to life then it is fair to take away their right to life, so now obama has taken away someones right to life the EXACT same reasoning you are giving for killing bin laden
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doesn't it feel strange to say anyone that supports a persons right to life should welcome the taking of someones right to life ?
Not one bit. Not in this case

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obama has now taken away someones right to life, so thus the same thing should now happen to him correct ?
sure why not. heh

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you seem to be of the opinion that if you take away someones right to life then it is fair to take away their right to life, so now obama has taken away someones right to life the EXACT same reasoning you are giving for killing bin laden
Obama took out a mass murderer and I feel he's finally done something to earn that nobel peace prize.
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hey remember when this thread was about you trying to tear apart Obama's rock solid point? Anyone that supports a persons right to life and dignity should be welcoming this news. THE MAN WAS A MASS MURDERER.
In Canada we don't have capital punishment. We don't kill people because they killed because then we are just as bad as they are.

But like I said above this wasn't the usual US murder. They had guys on the ground and probably tried to take him alive before he shot back and ended up dead.
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In Canada we don't have capital punishment. We don't kill people because they killed because then we are just as bad as they are.

But like I said above this wasn't the usual US murder. They had guys on the ground and probably tried to take him alive before he shot back and ended up dead.
Taking him alive would've been the preferable option, of course. But, you ain't gonna catch me shedding any tears over it.
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Taking him alive would've been the preferable option, of course. But, you ain't gonna catch me shedding any tears over it.
Same here, I'm glad the guy is gone just don't like the whole glorifying of his death thing.

As an Arab holyyyy shit is it nice to know he's gone. That fucker gave us all a bad image!
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obama said he was "killed after a firefight" not during, so i guess he was executed on the spot.
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kill != peace

by definition killing is not peaceful.

not arguing that killing someone couldn't create a peacefull situation , but kill != peace
peaceful one 'l', thank you come again
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not sure how peaceful and dignified it is to assassinate someone..
Usually no.
In this case OBVIOUSLY yes, you dimwit
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Obama is a great speech giver..


"his demise ( bin laden ) should be welcomed by all who believe in peace and dignity"


not sure how peaceful and dignified it is to assassinate someone..
C'mon son...
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Who cares if he's really dead or not... at least I know we wont be hearing from him again.
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Usually no.
In this case OBVIOUSLY yes, you dimwit
so murder is sometimes peacefull sometimes murder.

explain the difference between bin laden ordering murders and obama ordering murders.

You play god when you choose to take someones life. Obama is not god. neither is bin laden. They are both murderers playing god..
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Another ex employee of the West is let go...


Noriega



Saddam and Rummy....



Osama and US Brzezinski in happier days...

Who is the West friendly with today to play the boogeyman of tomorrow?
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to kill a mass murderer is an action of peace. I'm not sure how that's so hard to understand
Killing Obama would be an act of peace, you say?
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assassinate someone..
Is it really assassination when they've declared war on you and follow up with actual attacks?
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Justice was served. Being as we were unable to arrest him, we killed him. That's how justice works. Always has. If Joe Blow kills his family and then holes up in his house, eventually we go in and get him armed with guns. He had the option of surrendering, he failed to do so.
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Noriega



Saddam and Rummy....



Osama and US Brzezinski in happier days...

Who is the West friendly with today to play the boogeyman of tomorrow?
You use the word friend to loosely. More like pawns used to achieve a common goal.

I don't have the same friends that I did 15 years ago... do you? I have one old friend that is serving in fed. What control over that did I have? 15 years ago he was a good friend.
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Is it really assassination when they've declared war on you and follow up with actual attacks?

america declared war on al-queda correct ? are you saying if an al-queda sniper had shot george bush or barrack obama that it would NOT have been an assasination it would have been a legit wartime act ?

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An assassination is "to murder (a usually prominent person) by a sudden and/or secret attack, often for political reasons."[1][2] An additional definition is "the act of deliberately killing someone especially a public figure, usually for hire or for political reasons."
Assassinations may be prompted by religious, ideological, political, or military motives. Additionally, assassins may be prompted by financial gain, revenge for perceived grievances, a desire to acquire fame or notoriety (that is, a psychological need to garner personal public recognition), a wish to form some kind of "relationship" with the public figure, a wish or at least willingness to be killed or commit suicide in the attack.
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this thread is a trainwreck of logic. smokey you are smarter than this.
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:51 PM   #46
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I don't have the same friends that I did 15 years ago... do you? I have one old friend that is serving in fed. What control over that did I have? 15 years ago he was a good friend.
did you pay your friend and give him cool weapons to kill russians , and promise him you were going to help him rebuild , then sold him out and bounced his last check ? if so would it be all that suprising he broke your mailbox and egged your house ?
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This was certainly a targeted assassination and therefore illegal under international law...... which makes me think..... fuck international law.
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:55 PM   #48
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did you pay your friend and give him cool weapons to kill russians , and promise him you were going to help him rebuild , then sold him out and bounced his last check ? if so would it be all that suprising he broke your mailbox and egged your house ?
No, which only makes me reiterate "you are using the word friend too loosely."
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this thread is a trainwreck of logic. smokey you are smarter than this.
i believe killing should be a last resort option. pretty simple logic..

osama was a lunatic serial killer, we don't stoop to their level which is what we are doing.
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did you pay your friend and give him cool weapons to kill russians , and promise him you were going to help him rebuild , then sold him out and bounced his last check ? if so would it be all that suprising he broke your mailbox and egged your house ?
You go off topic a lot. You should try to stay on topic better.
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